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Immortal John Ripper wrote:

demens grimwulff wrote:

In all honesty, though, I have experienced more homophobia on Dust then open sexism.

I have not experienced much homophobia. I have made several gay friends on this game and even met some lesbians. We all pretty much got along. I mean sure there is always that random 14 year old who talks crap on the mic but that 14 year old talks crap to absolutely everybody. If there was a woman instead of a homosexual, he'd be sexist. If the guy had a japanese accent, he'd be a racist. Some people are just jerks to be jerks.

This could also be an issue of the crowd I like to be apart of. Some of my corps have had age requirements in the past. Which helped put me in a bit of a more mature crowd. There are people I like to squad with and people I do not like to squad with. If someone says something that offends me, I won't like to be near them. I don't have to be near them and I don't ever have to hear their voice or see their face ever again if I so choose. Maybe I just turn my back on the homophobia because it is not worth my time and it doesn't have to be apart of my life. Only if you let it.

I am straight but I have had gay men flirting with me. The only feeling I get is that of flattery and these gay men are usually mature enough to know that I have every right to like what I like and want what I want. I don't have to like them or return any feelings but if they think I'm cute. they are allowed to do that too. Nobody going to come to my house to **** me.

As far as harassment is concerned. This is the internet. Every bit of harassment you face on here is ignorable. When you act like like blacky here and give out all your personal information and history... you are screaming for attention. She does not care about being ignored nor does she care to ignore people she thinks bother her.

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Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 03:21:00 - [61] - Quote The best thing you could do is ask for a name change because of harassment. Probably won't happen. Either way, you have squandered the true gift of the Internet: anonymity. Either that or you demand attention. Sota is involved, so it is probably both.
Shiyou Hidiyoshi ZEN KILL Society 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 07:36:00 - [62] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: The best thing you could do is ask for a name change because of harassment. Probably won't happen. Either way, you have squandered the true gift of the Internet: anonymity. Either that or you demand attention. Sota is involved, so it is probably both. I agree with Fishsticks, try to get a name change on dust and avoid those who have caused problems. However... do that ONLY after you learn the lesson you have yet to learn. That lesson is stop doing crap like this because it just causes more problems. Ignore what people like sota say about you and don't even respond. You don't want to be harassed right? Then stop doing things that will get you harassed. DaBombDotcom or however you spell his name brought up a good point when it came to labels. In my opinion, if you don't want people to look at you like a piece of flesh because you are a woman on the internet then stop calling yourself a girl gamer and start calling yourself a gamer. Anything you do to try and remind people often that you are a female screams attention and causes problems. Are you a victim? Yes, but you are also the perpetrator Grow up and deal with the fact that there are going to be people who will despise you forever. Everyone in this thread, game, and real life go through this at some point or all the time. It is how the world is People have tried and tried again giving advice to you about this drama crap but apparently the message does not sink in. Either way to save you time so you don't have to write a thesis, if you decide to do stuff like this again then just make a post with an arrow pointing at your name saying "Is the problem". Fire needs 3 things to exist, without one it cannot exist. Ignore everyone causing problems and avoid them, it isn't hard. By doing that, the fire loses 1 component. "I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.11.03 08:13:00 - [63] - Quote Omg....I don't know you at all Black Ice. And I wasn't up to date to some of the references made about you. I feel bad that you had to endure this. You should have joined Ahrendee Mercenaries (RND). I wouldn't have tolerated none of that bullshit, believe me. I like having female gamers around because the diversity is great. What I've come to realize is that a lot of these gamers are geeks and wierdos. Most don't really know how to act towards females. And not just women but they are not sensitive to other races. Since RND disbanded and I've joined other corps, I've had to listen to guys use the "n" word and others like "spics", "dirty japs", and the degrading words towards hispanics like it's the coolest thing in the world. In RND, I am commander and I didn't have to deal with that. But since I've had to group with some of these wierdos, I've had to turn the other cheek. My point is, you have to join a more mature clan. At the same time, we are males so when we hear a female is around we may want to flirt or whatever. I, myself have joked on the forums here and there but nothing serious. But if you were in RND and anyone crossed the line or made you uncomfortable, I would have dealt with it. And I'm sure that any other mature clan would have done the same for you. I've seen lasting relationships start from gaming but of course, both parties were comfortable with each other. What you were going through is ridiculous when you were signing on to enjoy yourself. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.11.03 08:17:00 - [64] - Quote And if she identifies as being a girl gamer then that's because that's what she is. If she creates a new character and says I'm just a gamer not a "girl gamer"...would anyone not look at her like a girl gamer? People will hear her voice and realize (lol) that's she's a gamer. Placing blame on her for identifying herself as a girl gamer is ridiculous. The only fault that I place with her is that she should've just chose better company. If you see a jerk, you cross the street. You don't continue to walk with him and hope he'll change. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
jenza aranda BetaMax. 3	Posted - 2015.11.03 09:11:00 - [65] - Quote I am going to throw my thoughts into the pot as a female gamer; I don't give a ** about asshats. This is the internet and there will always be idiots/sexists/racists/whateverists wanting to ruin someone's day or something. Yes I have been attacked personally because of my gender, no I didn't give a **. I just screencaped, passed it on to CCP and got on with my day. FPSs and indeed most online gaming as a whole is mostly male dominated and before you jump onto mic they will, 99% of the time, assume you are a guy (and even then in some instances) usually the only one who makes a deal out of it are kids under the age of 12 who go OMG IS THAT A GIRL?! WANNA JOIN MY CORP? And yes that has happened to me. And do you know what I do in that situation? Assuming I am playing on one of my many alts I say yes then a few days later (or hours later in one instance) I rob the corp of all its cash and anything else I can scoop out of them. The point is you got to grow some thick skin and make it work for you. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
dusty5678 WarRavens Imperium Eden 344	Posted - 2015.11.03 09:14:00 - [66] - Quote Notice how she hasn't replied to any of these posts? She's left her ** here, everyone's seen it and started shouting at her but she won't because why would she? When she has several guys that would gladly come over and pick it up for her? It's a pretty good troll in a way, everyone's responded and the people that know her and her bullshit, and some people that don't, have realised what this is. All B1ack Ice has done is secured another group to with if she comes back on Dust, she's got another group of followers who'll lick her ***** clean at the snap of her fingers. Good job B1ack, life must be working out really well. XD Edit: If she replies I'm still not wrong. The point stands even more tbh. "Terrible thing to send a universe to certain doom... Fun though!" Long Live Queen ZarZar <3 CCP act like you care.
WE LOVE ReGnUM Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 94	Posted - 2015.11.03 11:17:00 - [67] - Quote Get ***** real Black Ice. I wouldn't even you with Ampy's **
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.11.03 13:19:00 - [68] - Quote I come to these forums for video game drama. Not actual drama. WTF Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
DEATH SURRONDS Eternal Beings RUST415 48	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:46:00 - [69] - Quote Scan Ice tell um!!!!! I hope your doin good. Also WHY AM I NOT I'M THE LIST QQ
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:50:00 - [70] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Placing blame on her for identifying herself as a girl gamer is ridiculous. Dubs, we know you mean well, but she is bat **** crazy. Her gender had nothing to do with why people took her the way they did, or why she got treated thusly. The only time her gender made a difference was her crap with Rampage. Everything else, literally, had more to do with her own behavior and actions then what was in-between her legs.

Dead'i Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:57:00 - [71] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Placing blame on her for identifying herself as a girl gamer is ridiculous. Dubs, we know you mean well, but she is bat **** crazy. Her gender had nothing to do with why people took her the way they did, or why she got treated thusly. The only time her gender made a difference was her crap with Rampage. Everything else, literally, had more to do with her own behavior and actions then what was in-between her legs. to extend on this further, she MAKES everything about her, in any way possible. The ONLY reason this post was made, was because SHE felt like she wasn't getting enough attention, And that the warroom was boring in her opinion, so why not try to set it on fire. SHE LOVES THE ATTENTION SHE LOVES THE ATTENTION SHE LOVES THE ATTENTION when will you white knights get it? no one is harming ice NO ONE CARES ABOUT ICE and for those who say: well you've been gone, if you don't care, why would you post? I posted for one reason, i care about you, my forum friends, i DO NOT wish for you to be swayed by the words of a COMPULSIVE LIAR.
DaBOMB dotCOM 343	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:03:00 - [72] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Placing blame on her for identifying herself as a girl gamer is ridiculous. Dubs, we know you mean well, but she is bat ** crazy. Her gender had nothing to do with why people took her the way they did, or why she got treated thusly. The only time her gender made a difference was her crap with Rampage. Everything else, literally, had more to do with her own behavior and actions then what was in-between her legs. Qtf is a "girl gamer". No offense but its only really her that I've seen identifying herself CONSTANTLY as a female, and making several threads about it. I don't think I've ever done that, nor has Zaria, or Hoopy, or any other female player on this game (I respect them very much so for this). We're all just here to play the game. In her rant, she's chosen to objectify herself as a "girl gamer", which I find absolutely ridiculous. If she can't choose to put the fact aside that she has a ***** vagina on a video game, then I don't know what to tell you. Then she wonders as to why things happen the way they do. I'm sure that if I used the term "guy gamer" for every fellow male player, they'd question it just as much as I do. Sorry for ranting. I didn't realize stupidity could annoy me to such a degree. (-½This isn't directed to either of you!!! >.>) pâ+(n+ípâ+-ëpâ+n+í) ~GÇójust your average 12 year old little boyGÇó~
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:04:00 - [73] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: One more thing. All you nerdy guys who can't get girlfriends in real life and harass women... online in a video game. gtfo. go outside. meet a real woman. Hold open doors. Spend your money on her, not yourself. Pull out chairs. Learn to cook, and clean. Learn to say please and thank you and please use protection until you can land a solid job to support a family. Don't make your moms raise your kids. I know how to cook! But don't choose chef as a career choice, it's super fast work and you have to go to school to get a degree for it, and the pay is like four bucks above minimum wage if you're lucky. I'm the wierd cook in the family. Everyone measures sh*t out with "pinches" and "dashes" And I'm just sitting here, with my scale, wondering why nobody measures things out in grams and mL Seriously though, I had to buy chemistry based cookbook to get what I wanted. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:15:00 - [74] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: In all honesty, though, I have experienced more homophobia on Dust then open sexism. Mysogyny? Yes, absolutely. Sexist talk amongst guys? Yes, absolutely. Sexism towards women? Ehhhh... not really. I have met many women in Dust, at least 10, and none have expressed anything beyond the occasional *******. Is that perfect? No. Is Blacks representation atypical? Absolutely. I like Black Ice, but I think she is wrong, here. Misogyny is sexism toward women though...
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:17:00 - [75] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: In all honesty, though, I have experienced more homophobia on Dust then open sexism. Mysogyny? Yes, absolutely. Sexist talk amongst guys? Yes, absolutely. Sexism towards women? Ehhhh... not really. I have met many women in Dust, at least 10, and none have expressed anything beyond the occasional *******. Is that perfect? No. Is Blacks representation atypical? Absolutely. I like Black Ice, but I think she is wrong, here. TBF, I've seen more racism in Dust more than anything. Probably because of lag though. Everyone hates lag. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
0bi wan-jacobi Ancient ExiIes 2	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:30:00 - [76] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: I am going to throw my thoughts into the pot as a female gamer; I don't give a ** about asshats. This is the internet and there will always be idiots/sexists/racists/whateverists wanting to ruin someone's day or something. Yes I have been attacked personally because of my gender, no I didn't give a **. I just screencaped, passed it on to CCP and got on with my day. FPSs and indeed most online gaming as a whole is mostly male dominated and before you jump onto mic they will, 99% of the time, assume you are a guy (and even then in some instances) usually the only one who makes a deal out of it are kids under the age of 12 who go OMG IS THAT A GIRL?! WANNA JOIN MY CORP? And yes that has happened to me. And do you know what I do in that situation? Assuming I am playing on one of my many alts I say yes then a few days later (or hours later in one instance) I rob the corp of all its cash and anything else I can scoop out of them. The point is you got to grow some thick skin and make it work for you. Nostalgia, Betamax... Good times
Regnier Feros Dead Man's Game 998	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:45:00 - [77] - Quote Hmm, I'm back & I like pie I LIKE PIE
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:53:00 - [78] - Quote Oh and just to put it out there, it's true she got a lot of our interests, she talks a pretty mean game, and flirts a lot. But the majority of us realized months after knowing her what kind of bad idea that was. Not a single guy went after her for more then a little while. So I'm kinda curious, who continued to harass her for her number and such? Sure as hell wasn't anyone I know.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 17:05:00 - [79] - Quote Quote: Everyone wanted a relationship with me and I just wanted to be left alone lol, I could quote 3 or 4 more lines that I could say as a matter of fact is a lie. But this one's my favorite. For a person who wanted to be left 'alone' you sure do ***** a lot about not getting heard.
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.11.03 17:13:00 - [80] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Quote: Everyone wanted a relationship with me and I just wanted to be left alone lol, I could quote 3 or 4 more lines that I could say as a matter of fact is a lie. But this one's my favorite. For a person who wanted to be left 'alone' you sure do ***** a lot about not getting heard. lol and for someone who wants to be left alone. she sure does seem to date more dusters than anyone else on the game. When Ratatti surpasses my like count, I'd like for my name to be changed to Captain Picard. Will you please be my #1?

demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 977	Posted - 2015.11.03 17:25:00 - [81] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: In all honesty, though, I have experienced more homophobia on Dust then open sexism. Mysogyny? Yes, absolutely. Sexist talk amongst guys? Yes, absolutely. Sexism towards women? Ehhhh... not really. I have met many women in Dust, at least 10, and none have expressed anything beyond the occasional *******. Is that perfect? No. Is Blacks representation atypical? Absolutely. I like Black Ice, but I think she is wrong, here. Misogyny is sexism toward women though... I used it in the general sense, as in its definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women. There is a ton of misogyny whenever a bunch of young boys crowd together, but that should not compensate for, or justify, it's existance. Considering my opinions on the matter, and my own experience with homophobia since I came out... 18 years ago or so... it is nauseating, but is not nearly as bad, if not mild, when women are around... sometimes non-existent. WENDELL'S Diplomat True Disciple of Kujo's lacy panties
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.11.03 17:35:00 - [82] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: In all honesty, though, I have experienced more homophobia on Dust then open sexism. I have not experienced much homophobia. I have made several gay friends on this game and even met some lesbians. We all pretty much got along. I mean sure there is always that random 14 year old who talks crap on the mic but that 14 year old talks crap to absolutely everybody. If there was a woman instead of a homosexual, he'd be sexist. If the guy had a japanese accent, he'd be a racist. Some people are just jerks to be jerks. This could also be an issue of the crowd I like to be apart of. Some of my corps have had age requirements in the past. Which helped put me in a bit of a more mature crowd. There are people I like to squad with and people I do not like to squad with. If someone says something that offends me, I won't like to be near them. I don't have to be near them and I don't ever have to hear their voice or see their face ever again if I so choose. Maybe I just turn my back on the homophobia because it is not worth my time and it doesn't have to be apart of my life. Only if you let it. I am straight but I have had gay men flirting with me. The only feeling I get is that of flattery and these gay men are usually mature enough to know that I have every right to like what I like and want what I want. I don't have to like them or return any feelings but if they think I'm cute. they are allowed to do that too. Nobody going to come to my house to **** me. As far as harassment is concerned. This is the internet. Every bit of harassment you face on here is ignorable. When you act like like blacky here and give out all your personal information and history... you are screaming for attention. She does not care about being ignored nor does she care to ignore people she thinks bother her. When Ratatti surpasses my like count, I'd like for my name to be changed to Captain Picard. Will you please be my #1?
demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 977	Posted - 2015.11.03 18:05:00 - [83] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: In all honesty, though, I have experienced more homophobia on Dust then open sexism. I have not experienced much homophobia. I have made several gay friends on this game and even met some lesbians. We all pretty much got along. I mean sure there is always that random 14 year old who talks crap on the mic but that 14 year old talks crap to absolutely everybody. If there was a woman instead of a homosexual, he'd be sexist. If the guy had a japanese accent, he'd be a racist. Some people are just jerks to be jerks. This could also be an issue of the crowd I like to be apart of. Some of my corps have had age requirements in the past. Which helped put me in a bit of a more mature crowd. There are people I like to squad with and people I do not like to squad with. If someone says something that offends me, I won't like to be near them. I don't have to be near them and I don't ever have to hear their voice or see their face ever again if I so choose. Maybe I just turn my back on the homophobia because it is not worth my time and it doesn't have to be apart of my life. Only if you let it. I am straight but I have had gay men flirting with me. The only feeling I get is that of flattery and these gay men are usually mature enough to know that I have every right to like what I like and want what I want. I don't have to like them or return any feelings but if they think I'm cute. they are allowed to do that too. Nobody going to come to my house to ** me. As far as harassment is concerned. This is the internet. Every bit of harassment you face on here is ignorable. When you act like like blacky here and give out all your personal information and history... you are screaming for attention. She does not care about being ignored nor does she care to ignore people she thinks bother her. Much like it is hard to argue misogyny's presence from a male perspective, it is hard to say there isn't a lot of homophobia when you aren't part of those it is against. I have had several mails call me a "f4gg0t" in multiple languages, as well as had it vocally expressed. As well, the demarcation line is generally receiver dependent... I don't mind the use of that word idly, as I use it a lot myself (my ex-bf used to yell at me a lot for it), but when I ask people to stop using it once it becomes obvious they mean it to be disrespectful directly towards a homosexual and I get the response "Why, are you a *** **** too?" I start to draw the line of what is just heterosexism and what is outright homophobia. On a side note, I noticed that, when I posted the congratulations thread in regards to the Supreme Court ruling legalizing the right to marry, there was a stark contrast between the opinions of the "top tier corps" and the "no names" with the prior being more likely to accept homosexuality and the later much more likely to be against it... even to the point that the thread mostly became a cess pool of anti-homosexual propaganda and damn near came close to what some would call threatening and outright harassment. Then again, I expect nothing less from the plebs left in this game. The only time I hit on a straight guy is when they appear to be uncomfortable with it, and their masculinity needs to be checked. I can only stand so much testosterone before I feel like I need to have some fun at their expense. WENDELL'S Diplomat True Disciple of Kujo's lacy panties
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 18:35:00 - [84] - Quote I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted.
demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 979	Posted - 2015.11.03 19:08:00 - [85] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted. I said I only hit on straight guys. WENDELL'S Diplomat True Disciple of Kujo's lacy panties
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 700	Posted - 2015.11.03 19:29:00 - [86] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted. I said I only hit on straight guys. He watched me play dust via my laptop..good times CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.11.03 20:15:00 - [87] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted. I said I only hit on straight guys. I can only say lol I will say nothing else Amarr Loyalist Amarr Commando Forever Ancient Exiles. Member
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.03 21:01:00 - [88] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted. even gay people have standards BRH actions speak louder then words.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.11.03 21:15:00 - [89] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted. even gay people have standards BRH Is this what you tell yourself as you gaze at demens from afar?
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.03 21:30:00 - [90] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: I haven't been hi ont by you once Demens, I'm insulted. even gay people have standards BRH Is this what you tell yourself as you gaze at demens from afar? do you cry yourself to sleep at night with black ices picture under your pillow actions speak louder then words.



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