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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.27 09:59:00 -
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I think one of the problems with the current system is that we (Dust) are too spread out. The Caldari have districts far into stable Gallente territory, making "borders" and "hotspots" nonexistent.
I can only find two systems which is 100% to one faction (Caldari/Gallente) in Dust, even if there must be more "stable" systems in EVE)
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Since we can't directly choose where to fight, perhaps a new battle spawn mechanics can artificially create the borders and hotspots, and make them naturally align to EVE's progress.
The goal of such a system should be:
- Hotspots: Creating hotspots of activity within the same system for both Dust and EVE.
- Predictability: Creating (fairly) predictable battle spawns in Dust based on sertain actions in EVE.
- Borders: Creating clear borders.
For example:
- No matches can spawn in Stable or Lost systems (predictability / borders).
- All districts within a system will automatically switch to the new owner's faction when the system becomes Lost in EVE (borders).
- When a system goes from Stable to Contested, an attack contract is automatically spawned in Dust on the planet with the fewest districts (predictability).
- The same district can't be attacked twice within 30min, regardless of outcome. (Predictability)
- New battles will always spawn on adjacent districts on the same planet, unless all are "locked" with the 30min rule. (Predictability / hotspots).
- The more offensive plexing going on in the system, the more battles are spawned on the planets (Predictability / hotspots)
This would make it possible for EVE and Dust to coordinate and rally to a system. Not by any active in-game mechanic, but indirectly based on the knowledge how the system works. Large fights will focus the attention to a few planets, creating hotspots of activity which will not only benefit the EVE side (Dust bonuses), but also give Dust the support it needs in the form of OB support.
Taking a system from scratch in EVE without Dust support will be harder, since the odds are against you from the start. However, this will give a further incentive to find Dust battles and fight over the control satellite to provide the best opportunities for your own faction.
Only two (nice to have) changes would further make life easier with the system above:
- EVE: A district satellite should show up on overview if a Dust battle is raging, not only if a capsuleer have connected to the satellite. That way it would be easier to find battles for the EVE folks.
- DUST: Show the true state of a system in the Factional Warfare map. Right now it only gives "Vulnerability" 0-100%, but it would be nice if it could give us the EVE statuses instead. (Stable, Contested, Vulnerable, Lost)
One last note (don't worry, my ramblings are soon over):
When checking the Dust FW map today I noticed that the system "Old Man Star" is owned by the Gallente (District owner), with Vulnerability 0%. Guess who has 100% of the districts? Caldari...
Anybody else feel this is wrong? With a mechanic as described above, this scenario would be impossible. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:27:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:So today Calmil had a good chance of taking Akidagi - they set themselves up, fought a bit and eventually moved on to bashing the ihub (the structure that flips the system control). As the ihub gets to about 80% armor remaining, Dust happened. The Gallente Dusties must have been doing well at the time. The conquer modifier in Akidagi ticked further in favour of Galmil which caused the ihub to go invulnerable. Calmil now had to take care of a few reds in system so they could run a few plexes and keep the bash going. Whether you knew it or not, if you were running Gallente FW today you had a real impact on Eve. Video timestamped at the appropriate point: https://youtu.be/pF7p6TULbUo?t=7381
Um this was confirmed real back in 2013.....
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:So today Calmil had a good chance of taking Akidagi - they set themselves up, fought a bit and eventually moved on to bashing the ihub (the structure that flips the system control). As the ihub gets to about 80% armor remaining, Dust happened. The Gallente Dusties must have been doing well at the time. The conquer modifier in Akidagi ticked further in favour of Galmil which caused the ihub to go invulnerable. Calmil now had to take care of a few reds in system so they could run a few plexes and keep the bash going. Whether you knew it or not, if you were running Gallente FW today you had a real impact on Eve. Video timestamped at the appropriate point: https://youtu.be/pF7p6TULbUo?t=7381 Um this was confirmed real back in 2013.....
 It's a catchy title though, isn't it?
Something is killing new player retention.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.27 12:12:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:So today Calmil had a good chance of taking Akidagi - they set themselves up, fought a bit and eventually moved on to bashing the ihub (the structure that flips the system control). As the ihub gets to about 80% armor remaining, Dust happened. The Gallente Dusties must have been doing well at the time. The conquer modifier in Akidagi ticked further in favour of Galmil which caused the ihub to go invulnerable. Calmil now had to take care of a few reds in system so they could run a few plexes and keep the bash going. Whether you knew it or not, if you were running Gallente FW today you had a real impact on Eve. Video timestamped at the appropriate point: https://youtu.be/pF7p6TULbUo?t=7381 Um this was confirmed real back in 2013..... It's a catchy title though, isn't it?
Very catchy title.
Stuff like this is why I want CCP to do another FW event to get more people into the queues. Last time we did it we actually got some Gallente Militia pilots to run complexes in a system Dust was spawning matches in to keep them spawning there, and we made a lot of progress in capturing it.
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A link from past to future
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.27 17:05:00 -
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bumping until this gets blue (or red) tag
Director of Pure Evil.
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.27 17:08:00 -
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I hope the eve pilots make the contacts in FW and we dust players can join. A massive space battle takes place while we on the ground fight till the last clone.
I know what map would be great for this.
The MCC construction map. Bring it back in FW and PC.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.28 00:55:00 -
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bump
Director of Pure Evil.
Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
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