DUST Search - Eve and Dust link through FW

Shaun Iwairo wrote:

Regis Blackbird wrote:

Shaun Iwairo wrote:

Juno Tristan wrote:

EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW

Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match

I posted this in the Council Chamber thread but I'll re-post it here to get more feedback (hopefully).

FW'ers in Eve already pay LP into their ihubs to upgrade their systems (basically make them harder to conquer). These upgrades decay over time which means they need to be topped up.

An extra LP slot could be added to each ihub that has a very fast decay (from max to 0 in 24hrs). The higher the amount of LP in this slot, the higher the chances that your Dusties will fight in your system. Kind of a way for Eve FW'ers to mark certain systems as 'important' in regards to Dust.

Even though I have played some EVE faction war (mostly OB support), I am not aware that the attackers also can deposit LP in ihubs? If not, wouldn't that present a problem since (as we all are aware) Dust can't select where to fight, only which side.

I.e marking a system as important (for defence) might actually cause more attack contracts for the opposition to be generated?

You're right, it's only the system owners that can deposit LP. The idea was that if the system is about to fall, the owners can throw in the LP after letting their own factions Dusties know they'll need to bring their A-game for the next little bit.

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Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 336	Posted - 2015.10.26 11:06:00 - [1] - Quote So today Calmil had a good chance of taking Akidagi - they set themselves up, fought a bit and eventually moved on to bashing the ihub (the structure that flips the system control). As the ihub gets to about 80% armor remaining, Dust happened. The Gallente Dusties must have been doing well at the time. The conquer modifier in Akidagi ticked further in favour of Galmil which caused the ihub to go invulnerable. Calmil now had to take care of a few reds in system so they could run a few plexes and keep the bash going. Whether you knew it or not, if you were running Gallente FW today you had a real impact on Eve. Video timestamped at the appropriate point: https://youtu.be/pF7p6TULbUo?t=7381 Something is killing new player retention.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.26 11:20:00 - [2] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: So today Calmil had a good chance of taking Akidagi - they set themselves up, fought a bit and eventually moved on to bashing the ihub (the structure that flips the system control). As the ihub gets to about 80% armor remaining, Dust happened. The Gallente Dusties must have been doing well at the time. The conquer modifier in Akidagi ticked further in favour of Galmil which caused the ihub to go invulnerable. Calmil now had to take care of a few reds in system so they could run a few plexes and keep the bash going. Whether you knew it or not, if you were running Gallente FW today you had a real impact on Eve. Video timestamped at the appropriate point: https://youtu.be/pF7p6TULbUo?t=7381 Last time I saw this happen was an incredible experience. Just before the Amarr empire conquered 100% of Amarr / Min space we had about a 40 man fleet working on taking down one of the last 3 systems the Minmatar held. As we got closer and closer to to conquering the system I hopped into my channel (AmarrOne) and offered up a 1 million ISK bounty for every victory in that system. Once people realized I was right about every battle being in that system due to the amount of activity in the system all hell broke loose on the ground to match what was going on in space. I quickly sprung into action dropping orbitals from Eve and getting a small defense force from our FC to support ground troops while plexing continued. 2 hours, over 100 million ISK, and a whole lot of fun later we completed what everyone in the fleet agreed was the fastest taking of a system any of them had ever been involved in. It was a monumental occasion that I myself could not believe what had just happened. Many pilots in the fleet actually gave me donations afterwards to cover my expenses of feeding constant ground syncs in. It was a very short time later that we completed the taking of the entire space squashing the minmatar back into their high sec to lick their wounds.
Jadek Menaheim 1nner.Heaven 7	Posted - 2015.10.26 11:39:00 - [3] - Quote That video was incredibly satisfying. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 340	Posted - 2015.10.26 12:26:00 - [4] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: That video was incredibly satisfying. That guy that told the FC 'It was Dust' sounded absolutely disgusted at us Something is killing new player retention.
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.26 13:16:00 - [5] - Quote "It was dust" Gg guys, we actually did something. "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.10.26 13:37:00 - [6] - Quote the butthurt you can hear in the words "it was dust" is delicious.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.26 13:41:00 - [7] - Quote Repost that on all social media you use with #portDust514 Use that to help the cause! I changed my forum sign on the EVE forums to have my orbital strike videos. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.26 14:16:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Repost that on all social media you use with #portDust514 Use that to help the cause! I changed my forum sign on the EVE forums to have my orbital strike videos. Reddit post made, GET IN HERE. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 17	Posted - 2015.10.26 14:58:00 - [9] - Quote Dropsuit Usage Rates
Vulpes Dolosus Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.26 17:00:00 - [10] - Quote See quote below vvv Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~

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Hundred x Eyes Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2015.10.26 17:49:00 - [12] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: the butthurt you can hear in the words "it was dust" is delicious. This
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 863	Posted - 2015.10.26 17:55:00 - [13] - Quote o7 Gallente *LeGiT* *SUinc Mission* *514 Surplus*
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 863	Posted - 2015.10.26 18:05:00 - [14] - Quote Forgot FREEDOM!!! *LeGiT* *SUinc Mission* *514 Surplus*
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 446	Posted - 2015.10.26 18:57:00 - [15] - Quote We all know the link is real.... It just needs to be something more in my opinion.... Some of the battles being auto generated in fine but when one of the EVE player factions makes a push they should be able to flag a system/constellation. Dust players should then receive specific contracts rather than just feeling like they are joining random battles. This should also work in reverse. Dust players want to push a system and can flag it so that EVE players can send space support. You know.... Player generated content, something CCP should be quite good at. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.26 19:45:00 - [16] - Quote CPM thread made based on feedback from EVE mercs. We want to work with our buddies in space CCP! Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
JIMvc2 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.10.26 22:30:00 - [17] - Quote I like this very much. So much lasors and ships. That huge structure = Is that the Warbrage? in where Dust mercs walk around? Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 364	Posted - 2015.10.26 22:40:00 - [18] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: I like this very much. So much lasors and ships. That huge structure = Is that the Warbrage? in where Dust mercs walk around? Nah that's the ihub - a big, permanent (at least in FW) structure with lots of hitpoints. You can feed them LP to upgrade a system your faction owns. An upgraded ihub will make it more difficult for the enemy faction to take over your system. If you want to take control of a system you have to first get the ihub into a vulnerable state, then remove all of it's shield and armor HP. After next DT the system will be yours. Something is killing new player retention.
JIMvc2 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.10.26 22:43:00 - [19] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: I like this very much. So much lasors and ships. That huge structure = Is that the Warbrage? in where Dust mercs walk around? Nah that's the ihub - a big, permanent (at least in FW) structure with lots of hitpoints. You can feed them LP to upgrade a system your faction owns. An upgraded ihub will make it more difficult for the enemy faction to take over your system. If you want to take control of a system you have to first get the ihub into a vulnerable state, then remove all of it's shield and armor HP. After next DT the system will be yours. Badass. Wish I could spend LP on that ihub and make it OP. I currently have 9,000 LP. I bet in eve it would cost millions of LP. Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 960	Posted - 2015.10.26 23:06:00 - [20] - Quote EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage

Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 368	Posted - 2015.10.26 23:09:00 - [21] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match I posted this in the Council Chamber thread but I'll re-post it here to get more feedback (hopefully). FW'ers in Eve already pay LP into their ihubs to upgrade their systems (basically make them harder to conquer). These upgrades decay over time which means they need to be topped up. An extra LP slot could be added to each ihub that has a very fast decay (from max to 0 in 24hrs). The higher the amount of LP in this slot, the higher the chances that your Dusties will fight in your system. Kind of a way for Eve FW'ers to mark certain systems as 'important' in regards to Dust. Something is killing new player retention.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 961	Posted - 2015.10.26 23:14:00 - [22] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match I posted this in the Council Chamber thread but I'll re-post it here to get more feedback (hopefully). FW'ers in Eve already pay LP into their ihubs to upgrade their systems (basically make them harder to conquer). These upgrades decay over time which means they need to be topped up. An extra LP slot could be added to each ihub that has a very fast decay (from max to 0 in 24hrs). The higher the amount of LP in this slot, the higher the chances that your Dusties will fight in your system. Kind of a way for Eve FW'ers to mark certain systems as 'important' in regards to Dust. If they do this then the Dust/EVE link becomes real and we can see some coordinated action between the two games ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 449	Posted - 2015.10.27 02:31:00 - [23] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match The running of sites in FW areas tips the balance on power in space already without entosis links. Why not just have a NEOCOM option for 'contest worlds in current system'. Or add the option to the context menu when right clicking a planet? (Have all the sites spawn around planets so its easy). This needs to trigger special contracts in DUST to conquer worlds imo, whereas the battle finder matches are kept as raids for LP only. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
luckyireland Mcalpines Fusiliers 18	Posted - 2015.10.27 04:07:00 - [24] - Quote Hope we see more of this in the future I'm happy go lucky
JIMvc2 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.10.27 04:15:00 - [25] - Quote This seriously needs blue tags and lots of it. Ratatti I hope you take notes on this. This can be huge for FW. Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
Aeon Amadi 13	Posted - 2015.10.27 04:44:00 - [26] - Quote Forwarded this to the dev team. Will see what I can do Eve-side as well. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.27 05:15:00 - [27] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Forwarded this to the dev team. Will see what I can do Eve-side as well. A post here would do wonders for my blood pressure at the moment. I just let off a lot of pent up frustration in GD. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:55:00 - [28] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match I posted this in the Council Chamber thread but I'll re-post it here to get more feedback (hopefully). FW'ers in Eve already pay LP into their ihubs to upgrade their systems (basically make them harder to conquer). These upgrades decay over time which means they need to be topped up. An extra LP slot could be added to each ihub that has a very fast decay (from max to 0 in 24hrs). The higher the amount of LP in this slot, the higher the chances that your Dusties will fight in your system. Kind of a way for Eve FW'ers to mark certain systems as 'important' in regards to Dust. Even though I have played some EVE faction war (mostly OB support), I am not aware that the attackers also can deposit LP in ihubs? If not, wouldn't that present a problem since (as we all are aware) Dust can't select where to fight, only which side. I.e marking a system as important (for defence) might actually cause more attack contracts for the opposition to be generated?
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 381	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:58:00 - [29] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match I posted this in the Council Chamber thread but I'll re-post it here to get more feedback (hopefully). FW'ers in Eve already pay LP into their ihubs to upgrade their systems (basically make them harder to conquer). These upgrades decay over time which means they need to be topped up. An extra LP slot could be added to each ihub that has a very fast decay (from max to 0 in 24hrs). The higher the amount of LP in this slot, the higher the chances that your Dusties will fight in your system. Kind of a way for Eve FW'ers to mark certain systems as 'important' in regards to Dust. Even though I have played some EVE faction war (mostly OB support), I am not aware that the attackers also can deposit LP in ihubs? If not, wouldn't that present a problem since (as we all are aware) Dust can't select where to fight, only which side. I.e marking a system as important (for defence) might actually cause more attack contracts for the opposition to be generated? You're right, it's only the system owners that can deposit LP. The idea was that if the system is about to fall, the owners can throw in the LP after letting their own factions Dusties know they'll need to bring their A-game for the next little bit. Something is killing new player retention.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2015.10.27 07:20:00 - [30] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: EVE pilots need something like an entosis link for FW Use on a planet/district to greatly increase the chance of RNG Jesus selecting it for a match I posted this in the Council Chamber thread but I'll re-post it here to get more feedback (hopefully). FW'ers in Eve already pay LP into their ihubs to upgrade their systems (basically make them harder to conquer). These upgrades decay over time which means they need to be topped up. An extra LP slot could be added to each ihub that has a very fast decay (from max to 0 in 24hrs). The higher the amount of LP in this slot, the higher the chances that your Dusties will fight in your system. Kind of a way for Eve FW'ers to mark certain systems as 'important' in regards to Dust. Even though I have played some EVE faction war (mostly OB support), I am not aware that the attackers also can deposit LP in ihubs? If not, wouldn't that present a problem since (as we all are aware) Dust can't select where to fight, only which side. I.e marking a system as important (for defence) might actually cause more attack contracts for the opposition to be generated? You're right, it's only the system owners that can deposit LP. The idea was that if the system is about to fall, the owners can throw in the LP after letting their own factions Dusties know they'll need to bring their A-game for the next little bit. Ahh, then I understand Thanks for the explanation! (It could actually also give rise to some lovely back-stabbing, since dumping LP into a ihub which is not contested might produce the effect I was describing above



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