DUST Search - FIX THIS MAJOR PROBLEM

Taskanoss wrote:

dreth longbow wrote:

Please read and comment.

Here is a recommendation I have for CCP.

When such a drastic change is made like the swarm/minmando then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando or something else and no problems for anyone.

This would work for everything and stop the crying.

If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for swarm/minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days.

How could anyone complain about something like this?

Another example would be:

Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your Hav respec token.
Change AV give tokens out to AV and vehicles.

The game gets to move forward (very important) and people don't feel ripped off (just as important). What does this do for CCP? Builds trust in player base and allows players options which keep players and also lightens the load on tickets and complaints.

Sounds like a win win situation.

Did you forget about the 500 kills respec event?

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dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 152	Posted - 2015.10.21 19:02:00 - [1] - Quote Please read and comment. Here is a recommendation I have for CCP. When such a drastic change is made like the swarm/minmando then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando or something else and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for swarm/minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone complain about something like this? Another example would be: Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your Hav respec token. Change AV give tokens out to AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward (very important) and people don't feel ripped off (just as important). What does this do for CCP? Builds trust in player base and allows players options which keep players and also lightens the load on tickets and complaints. Sounds like a win win situation. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Xeriphem Glitched Connection 90	Posted - 2015.10.21 19:17:00 - [2] - Quote Like I stated in the other thread on this topic... It makes no difference to me that the Minmando swarm bonus got moved to the Calmando. I already had the Cal at level five (for sniping) and yes, the Min at five for the swarms. I also have a Minmando fit with a level five Mass Driver that I'll change to the assault MD for AV. But the fact that I can now free up a suit slot by deleting my Minmando swarm fit for something new is a bonus in my eyes. I'm WHERE?! "If you're playing fair, you're not doing it right!" - Jenza Aranda
Yeeeuuuupppp Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 20:41:00 - [3] - Quote swarms should have been a bonus for the calmando from the jump, is it not a caldari weapon? Mm I say no refund /respec, whatever because you can do more than just use a swarm launcher on the minmando. *I'll boop you with a plasma Cannon* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 285	Posted - 2015.10.21 20:47:00 - [4] - Quote Flat out no for respects. If you really need one because your scrub AV got shifted, pay for it. Otherwise, man up and put some SP together, it won't take that long to get to level 4. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 567	Posted - 2015.10.21 20:53:00 - [5] - Quote We never got respecs when fotm got fixed soo NO I always ran assaults so I never had to deal with fotm since we were the weakest breed CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 20:55:00 - [6] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Flat out no for respects. If you really need one because your scrub AV got shifted, pay for it. Otherwise, man up and put some SP together, it won't take that long to get to level 4. Yeah, cos if something you skilled into for a specific reason got changed you wouldn't ask for a respec. If it still did the same thing but was not as good at it, Fair enough. No respec. However it is now to what it was originally. Which is a reason for a skill refund. Wanna play eve?
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 20:58:00 - [7] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: We never got respecs when fotm got fixed soo NO I always ran assaults so I never had to deal with fotm since we were the weakest breed If you are talking about FOTM scouts from a while back, the skills weren't completely changed. They were toned down (Though I think the Caldari precision was changed to dampening but I can't recall). Wanna play eve?
Terry Webber Molon Labe. RUST415 870	Posted - 2015.10.21 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote CCP doesn't give out respecs anymore. You can buy them yourself but I'm guessing you don't want to do that. Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.21 21:55:00 - [9] - Quote get 514 kills during the event for your respec. Enjoy. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 287	Posted - 2015.10.21 22:27:00 - [10] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Press Attache wrote: Flat out no for respects. If you really need one because your scrub AV got shifted, pay for it. Otherwise, man up and put some SP together, it won't take that long to get to level 4. Yeah, cos if something you skilled into for a specific reason got changed you wouldn't ask for a respec. If it still did the same thing but was not as good at it, Fair enough. No respec. However it is now to what it was originally. Which is a reason for a skill refund. On, like when my preferred slot layout for a sentinel got given to the gallente sentinel instead of amarr? Then after I skilled into it, they waited a month and put it back to the amarr? Or how about stripping my tanks down to garbage? Not once did I call for a respec. Then again, I'm not an entitled scrub, like the bums demanding respecs. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.

dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 155	Posted - 2015.11.18 02:41:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: get 514 kills during the event for your respec. Enjoy. Yes but what about the next time. My idea has merit. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Taskanoss Abstract Requiem 110	Posted - 2015.11.18 03:03:00 - [12] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: Please read and comment. Here is a recommendation I have for CCP. When such a drastic change is made like the swarm/minmando then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando or something else and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for swarm/minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone complain about something like this? Another example would be: Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your Hav respec token. Change AV give tokens out to AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward (very important) and people don't feel ripped off (just as important). What does this do for CCP? Builds trust in player base and allows players options which keep players and also lightens the load on tickets and complaints. Sounds like a win win situation. Did you forget about the 500 kills respec event? GÇ£Nothing external to you has any power over you.GÇ¥
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 158	Posted - 2015.11.23 17:05:00 - [13] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: dreth longbow wrote: Please read and comment. Here is a recommendation I have for CCP. When such a drastic change is made like the swarm/minmando then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando or something else and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for swarm/minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone complain about something like this? Another example would be: Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your Hav respec token. Change AV give tokens out to AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward (very important) and people don't feel ripped off (just as important). What does this do for CCP? Builds trust in player base and allows players options which keep players and also lightens the load on tickets and complaints. Sounds like a win win situation. Did you forget about the 500 kills respec event? Forgot? Did I know about it? Don't remember.... But for future, the solution seems simple and easy to implement and people can stop complaining when changes are made to make the game better even if it hurts them personally, for now their will be no hurt only love. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Apocalyptic Destroyer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 534	Posted - 2015.11.23 18:29:00 - [14] - Quote That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 436	Posted - 2015.11.23 19:08:00 - [15] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D -Stalk- Because you're Apoc. D4GG3R is my mom. I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
byte modal 328	Posted - 2015.11.23 19:28:00 - [16] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: get 514 kills during the event for your respec. Enjoy. Yes but what about the next time. My idea has merit. Argument since release, and just as silly now. Your idea only has merit if you were locked into a single skill tree with a finite number of skill points available to apply... ever. NEITHER is the case in DUST. Earn more sp and create multiple fits. Evolve. It's a given that the game will, as well as every other player around you. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Apocalyptic Destroyer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 535	Posted - 2015.11.23 20:19:00 - [17] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D -Stalk- Because you're Apoc. Alcina !!!!!!!!!!!!!! True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 439	Posted - 2015.11.23 20:41:00 - [18] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D -Stalk- Because you're Apoc. Alcina !!!!!!!!!!!!!! APOC!!!!!!!!! I'm your biggest fan!!!!! <3 D4GG3R is my mom. I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
Apocalyptic Destroyer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 536	Posted - 2015.11.23 20:44:00 - [19] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D -Stalk- Because you're Apoc. Alcina !!!!!!!!!!!!!! APOC!!!!!!!!! I'm your biggest fan!!!!! <3 ALCINA !!!!!!! I'm going to submit an application to KEQ, I'm in need of a Corp ! <3 :D I'll submit it later on today True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 439	Posted - 2015.11.23 20:46:00 - [20] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D -Stalk- Because you're Apoc. Alcina !!!!!!!!!!!!!! APOC!!!!!!!!! I'm your biggest fan!!!!! <3 ALCINA !!!!!!! I'm going to submit an application to KEQ, I'm in need of a Corp ! <3 :D I'll submit it later on today Okay ^-^ you will be my reason to play more. <3333 D4GG3R is my mom. I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.

Bri Bub Dead TOOMEY 372	Posted - 2015.11.23 21:19:00 - [21] - Quote This topic got bro-hugz super quick... Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
Apocalyptic Destroyer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 537	Posted - 2015.11.24 02:21:00 - [22] - Quote Application Submitted !!!! True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.24 20:38:00 - [23] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: That's exactly like saying CCP should give out respecs every time they Nerf the FOTM, so no ! :D -Stalk- Because you're Apoc. Alcina !!!!!!!!!!!!!! APOC!!!!!!!!! I'm your biggest fan!!!!! <3 ALCINA !!!!!!! I'm going to submit an application to KEQ, I'm in need of a Corp ! <3 :D I'll submit it later on today i will never forget that time me and Dust User were trying to train you to GC and yo froze up in the middle of the battle. Then i started yelling " say something Apoc you getting fuking 5 capped right now " fun times lol actions speak louder then words.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 441	Posted - 2015.11.24 20:57:00 - [24] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Application Submitted !!!! You'll have to apply again, I think it was bugged, there were no apps D4GG3R is my mom. I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
Cronar Stenovich TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS 7	Posted - 2015.11.24 23:14:00 - [25] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: Please read and comment. Here is a recommendation I have for CCP. When such a drastic change is made like the swarm/minmando then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando or something else and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for swarm/minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone complain about something like this? Another example would be: Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your Hav respec token. Change AV give tokens out to AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward (very important) and people don't feel ripped off (just as important). What does this do for CCP? Builds trust in player base and allows players options which keep players and also lightens the load on tickets and complaints. Sounds like a win win situation. Miss the Crimson Harvest event?
Apocalyptic Destroyer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 537	Posted - 2015.11.25 23:33:00 - [26] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: i will never forget that time me and Dust User were trying to train you to GC and yo froze up in the middle of the battle. Then i started yelling " say something Apoc you getting fuking 5 capped right now " fun times lol Holy **** dude, I've never forgotten ! xD I almost had us win though !!! They zergged us from everywhere and I froze. I'll submit another Alcina !!!! True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 161	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:06:00 - [27] - Quote byte modal wrote: dreth longbow wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: get 514 kills during the event for your respec. Enjoy. Yes but what about the next time. My idea has merit. Argument since release, and just as silly now. Your idea only has merit if you were locked into a single skill tree with a finite number of skill points available to apply... ever. NEITHER is the case in DUST. Earn more sp and create multiple fits. Evolve. It's a given that the game will, as well as every other player around you. Evolve I have, multiple fits I have. same old argument you give-no merit what about the the new guy who just spent 6 months to get something and now it is junk and they don't have the sp to change over.? Changes are good they make the game better, but hurting the players is not good. Re-read my post I am only talking about a specific item respect for a specific limited time only. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 5	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:11:00 - [28] - Quote There are still people whining about sp stuff? With 750k cap I can't see any issue. Camouflage master =ƒÄà
byte modal 347	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:36:00 - [29] - Quote For a limited time only, until the next change? Why not refund if new gear is introduced? Why not when you get bored? Why not when FOTM jumps again...and again? Again, you are not locked into a finite skill tree. Neither are new players. The day you are, maybe we can revisit this topic. I might advocate introducing better awareness assistance and gear accessibility for the new player to help prep newbies on the concept of ongoing SP gains and multi-role logic, and to transition the next generation out of this ridiculous WoW respec mindset. Other than that, we continually earn SP. It never stops. Newbros included. DUST is all about that growth and expansion. If you are so concerned with the new player experience then why aren't we discussing academy changes, or one-off starter SP resets at 5 or 10m to redirect ignorant and misguided SP allocations that actually do happen with new players? This post isn't for the new player. It's too specific to your needs, not theirs. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 700	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:49:00 - [30] - Quote Pulls out shotgun Shoots this thread in the skull Burns body And thats how you deal with zombies.



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