Symbioticforks
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:22:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:I suppose an important question to ask toward CCP Rattati is if these numbers are 1) What you expect to see given current meta / balance, and 2) What you want to see with regards to end goals of balance vs current 'flavor'
A few observations on my part:
I'm quite happy to see racial rifles being so popular on each racial suit being the most prevalent fittings. (Am with Scr, Ga with AR, etc) The only notable deviation from this is Minmatar Assaults using plenty of Shotguns, which fits with the notion of Minmatar suits behaving similar to one weight class lower.
Comparatively the Amarr line which tends to weigh in about one suit class higher has a very popular Heavy frame as it can end up with more Armor hp than other heavy variants.
I think that the fact that certain dropsuit classes are missing is a bit of a cause for concern although it makes more sense in a pure kill data dump for logistics to not show up, but for suits like the Amarr Commando and the Gallente Commando to not show up even near the bottom is somewhat worrisome. Not everything will be viable in PC. Pubs have incredible variety, in fact so much that it's hard to distill any robust conclusions from it. Thing about PC, is that a tiny stat difference can eliminate a whole class/role, purely on the stats, not on how it plays, looks or feels. We will try, but PC is pretty black and white, it has very little patience for sub-optimal fits. To be at this relative mix is pretty fantastic, compared to where we were months or years ago.
I remember when having 1-2 snipers was viable in PC.
If you had exceptional snipers on half of the maps they could perform well enough to merit having one.
Provide just enough of an x-factor to assist in cloning out the enemy team, or at the very least help protect a point.
You excluded an entire subset of your player base by not scaling the sniper rifle appropriately.
Under the term "precision weapon" the sniper rifle was bastardized by well meaning Developers / CPM's.
A headshot only weapon isn't viable. Dust 514 often runs at well below 30 frames per second, include bad hit detection, cloaking, jumping, reduced clip sizes, player movement while hacking installations. There are any number of factors that make that style of gameplay extremely unrewarding. In terms of both kills and level of enjoyment.
Counter snipers are too easily rewarded, removing player skill from the equation completely. The better sniper cannot win out the fight, because there is no fight. Again more unrewarding game play courtesy of those well meaning Developers / CPM's who know not what they've done. Nor care to rectify it.
I would like to direct your attention here.
Sniper Rifle Scaling / Red Line / Range
Just to point it out, you'll see the standard sniper rifle killing most players with 2 shots.
[equal levels of advancement on suit vs. sniper rifle]
Assaults would lose half, scouts would lose more than half. Anyway you look at it 2 bullets to kill the majority of infantry. If you read the post you'll see that many players could increase that number through tactical load outs. A great many did. Eventually almost everyone did. (see damage mod nerf)
Time to kill was a front line infantry problem, but in the end everyone just put on more armor while sniper rifle base damage became that much worse. (snipers stack damage mods)
Anyway, not going to bore you with the history of the ostracized sniper class, unless I hear you say you would like to help this portion of the player base.
Keep in mind, I don't play this game anymore. That's how much I care.
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Symbioticforks
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.23 20:36:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
Not everything will be viable in PC. Pubs have incredible variety, in fact so much that it's hard to distill any robust conclusions from it.
Thing about PC, is that a tiny stat difference can eliminate a whole class/role, purely on the stats, not on how it plays, looks or feels.
We will try, but PC is pretty black and white, it has very little patience for sub-optimal fits. To be at this relative mix is pretty fantastic, compared to where we were months or years ago.
I await your response.
I miss our little interactions.
Please, be gentle sir.
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