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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.10.07 02:32:00 -
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You put in those solo tanks.
You release skins every other downtime.
Dafuq
TBD ringleader | Yep Squad Spokesman
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:57:00 -
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Likely because the HAVs we already have are still suffering from some serious issues?
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.10.07 04:03:00 -
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That would be more than just a skin however, you would need different stats, and roles etc.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 04:45:00 -
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Just wait until this hotfix drops , you or anyone else will think three times before calling in a HAV .
It just wont make much sense .
I can't wait to see the tears and I hope all tankers do what the pilots have done and complain until CCP fixes it but the difference is they will have to fix what they broke .
The tank changes besides the improvements to the Cal HAV's will benefit who .?. definitely not the HAV operators .
You guys just got your role ruined .
Edit : The HAV hate is real .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Jalame La Bola
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2015.10.07 04:54:00 -
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Minmatar lavs should resemble rusted out 1980s Ford F-150s and amarr lavs should resemble gold chrome plated Lincoln navigators sitting on 30s.
Mamenme El Bicho.
Mami's a hurricane, you should see the way she blow me.
Hecho en Puerto Pobre.
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Avallo Kantor
896
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:25:00 -
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One takes new assets (if we decide to go with new models), art, balancing, coding, skills, and roles.
The other just takes a single artist or two.
the SKIN system, now that it has been set up, is not developer intensive to add to. Most of the work is on an artist, likely one who would not be overly helpful on software engineering.
Stop thinking game development is some amorphous activity where any employee for a company can do any other role with equal skill and difficulty.
"Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:08:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Likely because the HAVs we already have are still suffering from some serious issues?
*looks around for someone to slap, cannot slap Pokey because he is both right and protected by layers of impenetrable spreadsheeting*
True but that's not a good enough excuse.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.10.07 21:07:00 -
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Just put them into the game with slight differences (stat wise) to what we already have.
Right now the balancing of cal v gal vehicles is like trying to fill 2 cups with an equal amount of water. If given the choice a person is gonna pick the cup with more water. Introducing 2 new cups later is just gonna **** with whats been balanced.
With 4 factions to balance a different approach can be used. Instead of making them all equal CCP can use a "this kills that" aka the rock-paper-scissors method.
A> B> C> D> A
This way instead of just taking the cup with the most water players get to choose flavors.
Because lets be honest. They're so good at getting stuff balanced.
TBD ringleader | Yep Squad Spokesman
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
440
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Posted - 2015.10.09 01:48:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:That would be more than just a skin however, you would need different stats, and roles etc.
Roles especially, as from how I see it, currently, they don't really exist for any of the vehicles. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
440
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Posted - 2015.10.09 01:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Likely because the HAVs we already have are still suffering from some serious issues? *looks around for someone to slap, cannot slap Pokey because he is both right and protected by layers of impenetrable spreadsheeting* True but that's not a good enough excuse.
In a way it is, because adding more hulls without having the bare basics for the ones we have now will only complicate things, but in a way, you're right, because it might make balance harder if we add them later. But then again, it might not, as we could just adjust the new hulls for what the meta is for Caldari and Gallente vehicles, but using the flavor of Miminatar and Amarr. |
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
440
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Posted - 2015.10.09 01:54:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Just put them into the game with slight differences (stat wise) to what we already have.
Right now the balancing of cal v gal vehicles is like trying to fill 2 cups with an equal amount of water. If given the choice a person is gonna pick the cup with more water. Introducing 2 new cups later is just gonna **** with whats been balanced.
With 4 factions to balance a different approach can be used. Instead of making them all equal CCP can use a "this kills that" aka the rock-paper-scissors method.
A> B> C> D> A
This way instead of just taking the cup with the most water players get to choose flavors.
Because lets be honest. They're so good at getting stuff balanced.
The rock paper scissors method has been thrown out already. Nothing is supposed to be just straight better than the other, unless they have the advantage. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.10.10 00:56:00 -
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Jalame La Bola wrote:Minmatar lavs should resemble rusted out 1980s Ford F-150s and amarr lavs should resemble gold chrome plated Lincoln navigators sitting on 30s.
I imagined Amarr LAVs more like those oil funded gold plated Bentleys rolling around in certain deserts.
The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up.
More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.10 01:16:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Just put them into the game with slight differences (stat wise) to what we already have.
Right now the balancing of cal v gal vehicles is like trying to fill 2 cups with an equal amount of water. If given the choice a person is gonna pick the cup with more water. Introducing 2 new cups later is just gonna **** with whats been balanced.
With 4 factions to balance a different approach can be used. Instead of making them all equal CCP can use a "this kills that" aka the rock-paper-scissors method.
A> B> C> D> A
This way instead of just taking the cup with the most water players get to choose flavors.
Because lets be honest. They're so good at getting stuff balanced.
Won't work. Lets say C decides to go against A and C wins as A can not counter it. D becomes the only thing to take out C. Yes A can counter D, but it cant counter C. B can only counter A, it tries to counter D but fails.
A and B demand to be buffed to counter C and D (respectively). C and D ask for their counters to be nerfed as they can't win every time. And thus we have the nerf buff cycle. And the scissors rock falls apart.
Director of T-W-L
Keeper of the List
Lord of Scrubs
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
444
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Posted - 2015.10.10 03:27:00 -
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Jalame La Bola wrote:Minmatar lavs should resemble rusted out 1980s Ford F-150s and amarr lavs should resemble gold chrome plated Lincoln navigators sitting on 30s.
Please, just no 
And we know what they look like, Amarr has a battle van. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
837
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Posted - 2015.10.10 12:13:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Just wait until this hotfix drops , you or anyone else will think three times before calling in a HAV .
It just wont make much sense .
I can't wait to see the tears and I hope all tankers do what the pilots have done and complain until CCP fixes it but the difference is they will have to fix what they broke .
The tank changes besides the improvements to the Cal HAV's will benefit who .?. definitely not the HAV operators .
You guys just got your role ruined .
Edit : The HAV hate is real .
The hotfix was mediocre till I got to the tank test phase. We dominated in every hull I tried. Even had a commando melee my gunni to no avail.
Last night though... I hit a prodrugar in the weak spot with an Aldins' and OHK from full shields and armor....
Is that supposed to happen?
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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