Why not give the Am assault quicker cooldown + lower seize up?

Is that not the Point of it being an Amarr Bonus.... There gun works best on there suit..... Caldari have better reload on there guns.... so on and so forth


I can sorta see your point but I think your missing there's...... plus I like the fact my Viktor does not overheat

The AmAss bonus is the only thing making the LR still viable in combat. So no

I was about to open a post on this.
While the bonus is good on scr rifle, it doesn't fit very well on laser rifle imo.

Without bonus you have a shorter max damage window, but you also reach working temperature faster, consuming less charge (60 charges before overheat)
In this way you can have almost 2 high damage windows within a single clip.

With the amarr bonus you have only one (80 charges before overheat), then you have to reload because with 20 charges you'll do nothing.

Am assault should have a bonus on LR clip to bring it to 140-150 or a bonus reducing overheat cooldown.

What are your thoughts on the fact that laser weaponry is the only weaponry which is able to multiply its own damage and therefore receives an amazingly higher benefit from the warbarge, damage mods, and even proficiency?

Is this an actual problem?

How do we address that instead of balancing around players who have and don't have those things at a high level?

i like your changes to amar assault and lr / scr skills i dislike your idea of buffing the lr directly so im undecided as whether to give u a like


personally i dont want an av laser rifle

i want a breach laser rifle

and i want an av amar scrambler lance
and infantry amar scrambler lance ....both heavy weapons

Okay Forever, we need to collaborate on this, I'm currently working on Amarr Commando Balancing so I am going to pop this thread in here and see if we can work together. I honestly do not think we can not balance one without changing the other. Well we can but we should balance both at the same time.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=220063&find=unread

This guy wants ammar assault to be nerfed to the ground and better yet ccp us nerfing the scr so what would be the point to use ammar assault with the scr.either way I don't use ammar assault with scr I use it with kalakiota rr because people like this guy want the scr to be dead

amarr assault gets gets 3% heat reduction, 2% cooldown.

But the operation 2% heat reduction, 3% cooldown


my preferred fix ...

Just a thought but why not give all weapons heat build up? if all suits had a benefit to all weapons that fit the races ideals that might be better. Just food for thought.

First of all Bump.

Now lets talk about the topic. Damn I love the changes to LR, the sound increases as more you fire it? Awesome! Hell I say give the beam spirals around it when close to overheating! Yes LR as AV is something cool and that way no reason to add new laser AV weapons. So +1 to all of the above.

Now the Scr and Ascr. I loved the bonuses on the gun's passives this will encourage its use on all the other suits but ofc it will remain superior on the amarr assault. This is absolutely fair since this is the case with other rifles as well. I'm against the Scr scope zoom as this will only give those qqers another reason to start spamming threads. My personal thoughts on overheating mechanic:

Firstly, FIX THE DAM OVERHEATING CCP.

I like the idea of the bar increasing when you hold the charge for too long. How about making it 3 secs? Like if you hold the charge for 3 secs or more the bar will start to rise. Also another 3 secs until you can charge without heating the gun.

I'm fine with the Ascr overheating, but at the cost of reducing the muzzle jump during scope fire.

Give Scr the place that it really deserves, because at this point it is highly inferior.

A fun quirk of the current heat system in DUST (As I've come to understand it through what experimentation I can do):

The heat/s metric appears to be the core metric; however, the heat IS ADDED PER SHOT. This implication is that increasing the RoF of a Laser Weapon decreases the Heat/shot.

So...if you incorporated a Rate of Fire bonus on the Amarr Assault, it would have a similar effect to decreasing the heat/s metric on the suits.

Just something I thought I'd bring up considering the RoF bonus on the Gallente Assault Currently.

Other than that...if I hadn't said it already, I do like the idea of the change proposed...but don't want it to be limited to the given metrics.

oh yeah...bump?

Seems reasonable. +1

Any concerns about AM Commando + LR? In my experience, it already hits pretty hard toward the end of its clip.