DUST Search - AHMG minor nerf idea

Heracles Porsche wrote:

I own an Assault Freedom Heavy Machine Gun. I use it. I love it. But I was feeling a little guilty today when I used it today to solo god mode a single skirmish point in an APEX suit that costs me less then 60k.

Suddenly it hit me. I have too much ammo. I have far too much ammo for a weapon that can triple kill infantry, shred lavs, and grenade combo kill and tanks and dropships that are stupid enough to get close to me.

So a simple nerf idea was born, and it's this: cut the reserve ammo on the freedom hmg to a tiny margin. At most we should have say, 1 reserve clip for someone who's fully specced into HMG ammo. I wouldn't even mind if all we had was half a clip in reserve.

I get that rattati is relunctant to nerf the assault hmg. Heavys offer no links or ewar so they should have access something powerful like the AHMG to make up for that. But to be able to sustain this godmode without any team assistance is a little on the redic side. So, to take this weapon where it needs to be without sacrficing what makes it cool, force us heavies to take a little more team support.

Next up, let's look at the assault rail rifle. Another fun weapon I use a lot. It's the dominant weapon in dust right now for a reason, and it might need a little more then a minor range nerf to bring it in line with the other weapons.

Let the flaming begin Twisted

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Heracles Porsche S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D RUST415 537	Posted - 2015.09.30 20:30:00 - [1] - Quote I own an Assault Freedom Heavy Machine Gun. I use it. I love it. But I was feeling a little guilty today when I used it today to solo god mode a single skirmish point in an APEX suit that costs me less then 60k. Suddenly it hit me. I have too much ammo. I have far too much ammo for a weapon that can triple kill infantry, shred lavs, and grenade combo kill and tanks and dropships that are stupid enough to get close to me. So a simple nerf idea was born, and it's this: cut the reserve ammo on the freedom hmg to a tiny margin. At most we should have say, 1 reserve clip for someone who's fully specced into HMG ammo. I wouldn't even mind if all we had was half a clip in reserve. I get that rattati is relunctant to nerf the assault hmg. Heavys offer no links or ewar so they should have access something powerful like the AHMG to make up for that. But to be able to sustain this godmode without any team assistance is a little on the redic side. So, to take this weapon where it needs to be without sacrficing what makes it cool, force us heavies to take a little more team support. Next up, let's look at the assault rail rifle. Another fun weapon I use a lot. It's the dominant weapon in dust right now for a reason, and it might need a little more then a minor range nerf to bring it in line with the other weapons. Let the flaming begin Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Nestil Nos Nothi 357	Posted - 2015.09.30 20:44:00 - [2] - Quote But wouldn't that screw over solo players?! Heavies with a squad would have an advantage since they could call for a hive but solo heavies would get punished... And I don't like the idea of punishing solo players. I mean blueberries nearly never drop hives around.... And when they do its just a militia or std hive which vanishes just the moment you try to get ammo. 'LR4-Trading' Protester
IceShifter Childhaspawn Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 781	Posted - 2015.09.30 20:48:00 - [3] - Quote That would absolutely kill solo heavies. It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.30 20:59:00 - [4] - Quote The AHMG already has small ammo reserves. If you shrink it further, such a fun/powerful weapon will only be viable to squad players. Given the quality of matches (rather, the lack thereof), do we really want to give squads yet another leg up on everybody else in casual pubs? I am a minotaur. Beware my poop.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion No Context 1	Posted - 2015.09.30 21:00:00 - [5] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: I own an Assault Freedom Heavy Machine Gun. I use it. I love it. But I was feeling a little guilty today when I used it today to solo god mode a single skirmish point in an APEX suit that costs me less then 60k. Suddenly it hit me. I have too much ammo. I have far too much ammo for a weapon that can triple kill infantry, shred lavs, and grenade combo kill and tanks and dropships that are stupid enough to get close to me. So a simple nerf idea was born, and it's this: cut the reserve ammo on the freedom hmg to a tiny margin. At most we should have say, 1 reserve clip for someone who's fully specced into HMG ammo. I wouldn't even mind if all we had was half a clip in reserve. I get that rattati is relunctant to nerf the assault hmg. Heavys offer no links or ewar so they should have access something powerful like the AHMG to make up for that. But to be able to sustain this godmode without any team assistance is a little on the redic side. So, to take this weapon where it needs to be without sacrficing what makes it cool, force us heavies to take a little more team support. Next up, let's look at the assault rail rifle. Another fun weapon I use a lot. It's the dominant weapon in dust right now for a reason, and it might need a little more then a minor range nerf to bring it in line with the other weapons. Let the flaming begin finally more people are starting to see how op this thing really is. i suggest just nerf the range to the ground/rename it the breach and bring back the old assault omg CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.30 21:01:00 - [6] - Quote I hate to say it, because it's annoying. But if we nerf the HMGs any more I'm swapping to shotguns and racial rifles on all my fits. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 804	Posted - 2015.09.30 21:49:00 - [7] - Quote Rather than hit a weapon that works as intended with such a considerable nerf, why not fix the vanilla and Burst so they're both viable alternatives? While we're at it, rename the AHMG as Breach HMG. The vanilla can be the Assault variant. Purifier. First Class.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 198	Posted - 2015.09.30 22:29:00 - [8] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Rather than hit a weapon that works as intended with such a considerable nerf, why not fix the vanilla and Burst so they're both viable alternatives? While we're at it, rename the AHMG as Breach HMG. The vanilla can be the Assault variant. The current assault should be the 'breach' The current burst should be the 'vanilla' The current standard should be the 'assault'. A tactical would probably make people rage as it would be more of a punchy artillery cannon. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 809	Posted - 2015.09.30 22:41:00 - [9] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Rather than hit a weapon that works as intended with such a considerable nerf, why not fix the vanilla and Burst so they're both viable alternatives? While we're at it, rename the AHMG as Breach HMG. The vanilla can be the Assault variant. The current assault should be the 'breach' The current burst should be the 'vanilla' The current standard should be the 'assault'. A tactical would probably make people rage as it would be more of a punchy artillery cannon. Burst is fine as it is, name wise. Current Assault works like a Breach (low RoF, high damage) while the vanilla/base has more in common with an Assault weapon (though it doesn't actually need a name change) Purifier. First Class.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 198	Posted - 2015.09.30 22:58:00 - [10] - Quote Burst is the 'standard' minmatar prefix though, assault is the fully automatic gallente prefix (though lower firing rate than burst usually), breach is the caldari affix and is full auto but even lower rof than assault. Tactical is amarr and it's single shot. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.30 23:01:00 - [11] - Quote You youtube , were you in a squad ? Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.30 23:06:00 - [12] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I hate to say it, because it's annoying. But if we nerf the HMGs any more I'm swapping to shotguns and racial rifles on all my fits. People will see with the changes to the Cal and Gal assault , then they will be crying OP and forget all about attempts to change or alter weapons besides the roles that they will deem OP . If anything needs to be done to the vanilla is to make it more efficient in CQC and as someone else pointed out , it cant keep up with speed while in ADS , the thing moves like a forge charges and it doesn't have the staying power in CQC . Fix those things and your alright . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 809	Posted - 2015.09.30 23:17:00 - [13] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Burst is the 'standard' minmatar prefix though, assault is the fully automatic gallente prefix (though lower firing rate than burst usually), breach is the caldari affix and is full auto but even lower rof than assault. Tactical is amarr and it's single shot. Based off of how the racial rifles naming works, sure, but the Min, Cal and Amarr were introduced after the AR variants and were, to an extent, modelled on them (CR based on Burst AR, RR based on Breach AR and Scrambler based on Tac AR and then all were given an Assault variant) When we look at side arms, the prefix 'rule' doesn't apply; there's no Burst SMG, just the vanilla, Breach and Assault, while we have a Tactical Scrambler Pistol that's not the base variant. That being said, the only name that needs to be changed is the current Assault HMG, simply because it doesn't behave like an Assault weapon. Purifier. First Class.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.30 23:20:00 - [14] - Quote More like a breach . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 809	Posted - 2015.09.30 23:23:00 - [15] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: More like a breach . Exactly. Purifier. First Class.


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