the credit for the reinforced and Flux extenders also goes to ripley Riley and Cat Merc. They were the primary instigators who got me on the idea (several months ago) and contributed as much as I did to the idea. But we deliberately rigged the reinforced extender to do significant harm to shield regen. To the point where three reinforced extenders on a calsent absolutely requires a shield energizer to get back up to the baseline shield regen.

Putting reinforced Extenders on an Armor suit is going to pretty much be the definition of headache-inducing.

The problem with regulators is they MANDATED a presence in the low slots of a serious shield tanker. They weren't really optional. That's an issue in and of itself. That won't change the fact that they're still going to be one of the most useful options. The caldari sentinel's 4/1 delay (which doesn't change in the hotfix) may be tiny on the depleted side by that doesn't change the fact that a large number of calsent players fell that the shield regulator is the best use of their one low slot.

I think the Flux Extender Option will appeal to scouts more. It would increase their ability to pop in and out of combat rapidly. The Reinforced means they would have to retreat and hide for extended periods.

Finally we looked at the profile thing. For most suits that's not a sacrifice. Especially not since the galassault and minassault are proving (with shotguns) that speed > all and screw ewar. exchanging the regen penalty for a profile one won't even make people who want it as a fast-attack-murdersuit even blink.

reducing recovery rates sharply? That actually will make most people think.

actually if you look the reinforced use the current extender costs, and we reduced the regular extenders.

Oh that's right, we were looking at the fact that Shields were proportionally huge in fitting cost for very little comparative benefit to armor.

The caldari sentinel's 4/1 delay (which doesn't change in the hotfix) may be tiny on the depleted side by that doesn't change the fact that a large number of calsent players fell that the shield regulator is the best use of their one low slot.

Also an option, but we'll see what comes of it.

Believe it or not the frame bonus proposal has a lot to do with the inability to really differentiate fitting meta and doctrine.

Gallente can't rep significantly more than an identically fit Amarr, and the Amarr are generally supposed to have more raw toughness on their side.

Caldari are supposed to be the shield buffer race while the minmatar go heavy speed and fast recovery a lot.

It was one way to do it, and as importantly, to remove an "sp tax" of skills that do nothing.

Past that, I'm not really interested in dinking around with TTK much. Screw with it TOO much and you get the same problems in the reverse.

But that's also why the bonuses would go to base stats on the suits.

There's a few more "SP Tax" skills that provide no actual benefit, but the frams skills are one of the ones that really hose newer players IMHO, getting dropsuits with no bonuses whatsoever in order to graduate to suits that benefit from actually skilling into them.

Of course, vehicles have similar issues with no-benefit skills where the skills were stripped of bonusing between chrome and uprising.

The upshot is the bonuses we picked cant be modified by overstacking similar modules. They are based entirely on the base suit stats..

The other thing to consider is that modifying based off modules doesn't provide even returns.

10% bonus to an armor rep gives about 1 rep per second. Four of them gives roughly 4. That hardly answers the age old question of why racial suits aren't flat better at racial fitting doctrine. 10% to 4 extenders on a calassault would give what, 26-ish HP? Again, that's pretty much a not-bonus.

Finally there are technical reasons why we had to pick skills modifying the base suit stats rather than modules. I dunno if I can go into specifics, so I won't.