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Thaddeus Reynolds
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:41:00 -
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Numbers have been run
Edit:
Non-DPS Ideas to bring the HMGs Up:
Flatten Heat Progression on HMGs...make STD and ADV HMGs have the same heat buildup as the PRO
Burst HMGs: Magazines with full bursts
Range or Dispersion could be looked at on Burst and Vanilla HMGs
Burst HMG suffers from some serious hit-detection issues...I have to gather more data though to get a valid sample size
Reaction to Shield Changes:
It'll be nice to have a slightly higher threshold...I'm not sure if it will be high enough, but any time my shields aren't stopped from recharging is good. I don't think the changes will solve all the shield issues, but that wasn't the goal of this hotfixes shield changes anyway.
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:27:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:How did yo get those numbers? ROF for all vanilla ARs but the Balacs and Kalentes is 800. Therefore the ROF for these weapons after the 15% suit bonus will be 920. The Balacs will be 985.5 and the Kalentes will be 1029.8. Where are you getting these 941's and that 898 for the Duvolle? And 705 for the Breach? That's a 65% increase in ROF. There is mathematical wonkiness afoot.
It's because it's not a 15% bonus to RoF, but a 15% reduction to Fire Delay (s/Shot on the spreadsheet)
and the Duvolle was a typo, thanks for catching that.
All the Formulae should be view-able in the cells.
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:43:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Burst has got the alpha to overcome reps
Assault has got range and AV profile
Vanilla has ??
How about a mild stun lock? people complained before but that when it was applied to all weapons (and it was the era of Scout 514)
Not sure I want the return of Tractor Beams in DUST XD, but it is a good non-DPS idea
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:53:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:Daddrobit wrote:How did yo get those numbers? ROF for all vanilla ARs but the Balacs and Kalentes is 800. Therefore the ROF for these weapons after the 15% suit bonus will be 920. The Balacs will be 985.5 and the Kalentes will be 1029.8. Where are you getting these 941's and that 898 for the Duvolle? And 705 for the Breach? That's a 65% increase in ROF. There is mathematical wonkiness afoot. It's because it's not a 15% bonus to RoF, but a 15% reduction to Fire Delay (s/Shot on the spreadsheet) and the Duvolle was a typo, thanks for catching that. All the Formulae should be view-able in the cells.
Also, these are numbers based on my understanding of how the skill bonus will apply, based on old mods and eve mechanics, I could be wrong, but we need "Word of God" to confirm how it will apply, and once we have that I'll redo those numbers to reflect it
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.09.28 04:24:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:Daddrobit wrote:How did yo get those numbers? ROF for all vanilla ARs but the Balacs and Kalentes is 800. Therefore the ROF for these weapons after the 15% suit bonus will be 920. The Balacs will be 985.5 and the Kalentes will be 1029.8. Where are you getting these 941's and that 898 for the Duvolle? And 705 for the Breach? That's a 65% increase in ROF. There is mathematical wonkiness afoot. It's because it's not a 15% bonus to RoF, but a 15% reduction to Fire Delay (s/Shot on the spreadsheet) and the Duvolle was a typo, thanks for catching that. All the Formulae should be view-able in the cells. Ahhhh, I see, ok. However Rattati also mentions that it should function as a ROF buff. CCP Rattati wrote:a ROF bonus for Gallente Assault Dropsuits.
Gallente Assault ROF bonus only applies to Assault Rifles
increase to rate of fire for a maximum of 15% I wonder if the reduction to fire interval mention was a gaffe by Ratman in just assuming that they are one and the same and it's really just a ROF bonus, or are we going to unintentionally see ARs be a fair bit more powerful than intended... Time to wait for the input of WOG. **EDIT** Also take a gander at your BAR stats, they read (60/600)*0.85 which I think is just an accidental copy/paste of the TAR stats. They should read (60/428.57)*0.85
thanks, and fixed
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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