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Aeon Amadi wrote:

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

I said 'shafted off the Minmando' ( AKA, minmando is losing bonus) + overall nerf.

Oh and P.S. Aeon, from what I read it's not just the range, apparantly it's the 'hit-impact' and 'turning radius' as well

Shouldn't you know this stuff?

OR

Are you just trying to brush it under the rug?

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

*teardrop* I didn't ask for clarification on the reasoning behind the NERF.. I am sure it is completely warranted and vetted through a board of DUST professionals who live and breathe DUST.

I was stating a FACT towards Aeon, since he thinks the only nerf was to the SHAFTED 'range' Blink

I can say the same to you, bub. Can't even admit you read my post wrong so you skirt around it make assumption

DISCLAIMER: I DON'T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT SWARMS, NOR AM I FIGHTING AGAINST THE NEW CHANGES. JUST HERE TO TELL A DISSAPOINTING TALE OF AN A/V SUIT THAT JUST WASN'T MEANT TO BE.

That was like Six Degrees of Separation assumption logic, there. Very inaccurate assumption logic at that, but then again assumptions usually are.

Do I really need to baby talk you with complete sentences and mention things that aren't relevant to my questions in order for you to grasp that maybe - just maybe - I might know what the other nerfs were?

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ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:34:00 - [1] - Quote .... Untill a few days ago..... I FULLY skilled into them for the F*** of it all. Made a Plasma Cannon + Swarm Minmando because tanks are great for breakfast, lunch and din din... YAY, can't wait to try this out!! Finds out Swarms are getting shafted off the Minmando + overall nerf %&^$ $(&^$F()CAAAAHHHHHHH There goes 8 million sp down the drain and I havn't even fired one swarm yet :( I think I will take this as a sign, I was never meant to swarm... Forging and Plasma Cannon fo lyfe! FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 931	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:37:00 - [2] - Quote Ah, the Gods are Cruel. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:38:00 - [3] - Quote CCP wrote: BUY A RESPEC TODAY I am a minotaur. Beware my poop.
Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 794	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:39:00 - [4] - Quote I'm not upset about the bonus being moved to Calmandos. I still have 3 damage mods on my AV fit. Also did some math, and a proto Breach Mass Driver with maxed everything will deal about 800ish damage to armor. [75.2m SP] "I bet Sazu's great in an argument, since he makes so many points." -CeeJ Mantis -Logibro / Minmando-
ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:44:00 - [5] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: CCP wrote: BUY A RESPEC TODAY Hahaha, they were just excess SP, I don't care too much about it to be honest (120mil sp).. I was just excited to test a new AV fit and it already got pooped on. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Zekkei Algintal Core Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:44:00 - [6] - Quote Romulus U have been CCPed lmao
ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.24 23:47:00 - [7] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: I'm not upset about the bonus being moved to Calmandos. I still have 3 damage mods on my AV fit. Also did some math, and a proto Breach Mass Driver with maxed everything will deal about 800ish damage to armor. YES, the breach mass driver is going to be fun to test out!! FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Aeon Amadi 12	Posted - 2015.09.25 00:19:00 - [8] - Quote Is 25m worth of range really warranting of the word "shafted" ...? Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.25 00:45:00 - [9] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Is 25m worth of range really warranting of the word "shafted" ...? I said 'shafted off the Minmando' ( AKA, minmando is losing bonus) + overall nerf. Oh and P.S. Aeon, from what I read it's not just the range, apparantly it's the 'hit-impact' and 'turning radius' as well Shouldn't you know this stuff? OR Are you just trying to brush it under the rug? FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Regnier Feros Pielords 774	Posted - 2015.09.25 00:47:00 - [10] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: I'm not upset about the bonus being moved to Calmandos. I still have 3 damage mods on my AV fit. Also did some math, and a proto Breach Mass Driver with maxed everything will deal about 800ish damage to armor. av laser/.................... LongLiveQueenZarZar

Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2015.09.25 00:58:00 - [11] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Is 25m worth of range really warranting of the word "shafted" ...? I said 'shafted off the Minmando' ( AKA, minmando is losing bonus) + overall nerf. Oh and P.S. Aeon, from what I read it's not just the range, apparantly it's the 'hit-impact' and 'turning radius' as well Shouldn't you know this stuff? OR Are you just trying to brush it under the rug? Turning Radius is so that if we try to out-turn them, we actually have a chance. Hit-Impact reduction is to reduce/remove the absolutely ******** mechanic of being suddenly flipped sideways or thrown into the ground without warning by the stupidly over-powered kinetic push the missile detonations have. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.25 01:05:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Is 25m worth of range really warranting of the word "shafted" ...? I said 'shafted off the Minmando' ( AKA, minmando is losing bonus) + overall nerf. Oh and P.S. Aeon, from what I read it's not just the range, apparantly it's the 'hit-impact' and 'turning radius' as well Shouldn't you know this stuff? OR Are you just trying to brush it under the rug? Turning Radius is so that if we try to out-turn them, we actually have a chance. Hit-Impact reduction is to reduce/remove the absolutely ******** mechanic of being suddenly flipped sideways or thrown into the ground without warning by the stupidly over-powered kinetic push the missile detonations have. teardrop I didn't ask for clarification on the reasoning behind the NERF.. I am sure it is completely warranted and vetted through a board of DUST professionals who live and breathe DUST. I was stating a FACT towards Aeon, since he thinks the only nerf was to the SHAFTED 'range' DISCLAIMER: I DON'T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT SWARMS, NOR AM I FIGHTING AGAINST THE NEW CHANGES. JUST HERE TO TELL A DISSAPOINTING TALE OF AN A/V SUIT THAT JUST WASN'T MEANT TO BE. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.09.25 01:18:00 - [13] - Quote No, we don't need more scrubs. Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that your used to. Just keep it on the down low. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.25 01:21:00 - [14] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: No, we don't need more scrubs. Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that your used to. Just keep it on the down low. Uhm, okay....? Will....do...... FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
MrShooter01 Ustio Mercenary Squadron 1	Posted - 2015.09.25 01:24:00 - [15] - Quote Don't worry, you can still use the powerful breach mass driver to threate...hehhahahahaha hahahah... haha hoooooo ok ok let me try again You will be a formidable threat to HAVs with the breach maaAAAHAHAHaAHAHA
ROMULUS H3X research lab 729	Posted - 2015.09.25 01:32:00 - [16] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Don't worry, you can still use the powerful breach mass driver to threate...hehhahahahaha hahahah... haha hoooooo ok ok let me try again You will be a formidable threat to HAVs with the breach maaAAAHAHAHaAHAHA Haha, ya......... I think I would be able to spam off my 4 flaylock rounds and deal more damage per second than the Breach mass driver still.. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 96	Posted - 2015.09.25 05:17:00 - [17] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: CCP wrote: BUY A RESPEC TODAY
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 1	Posted - 2015.09.25 05:34:00 - [18] - Quote Just punch the tank. TBD ringleader \| Yep Squad Spokesman
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 177	Posted - 2015.09.25 05:44:00 - [19] - Quote 25 meters less lock on range, still 400 meters of death....unplayable. I find it amusing how the least skill oriented weapon in the game invokes some of the most passionate rage from both sides of the field. The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Also, reducing the impact is just catering to scrubs. Anyone who knows how to fly almost never has an issue with this. You have to be a special kind of bad for the current impact to affect you aside from the random freak incident. Glad to see CCP and CPM hard at work changing things that don't matter to anyone who matters
WyrmHero1945 Finesse Soldiers 704	Posted - 2015.09.25 05:51:00 - [20] - Quote I skilled into swarms because they're a Caldari weapon, best faction obviously. But omg I feel soooo scrubby everytime I take out my AV fit. I'm just glad I didn't fully leveled up proficiency to 5. I'm actually gonna delete the damn fit and let true AVer's do their job.

Carmine Lotte Talon Havocs 32	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:22:00 - [21] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: I'm not upset about the bonus being moved to Calmandos. I still have 3 damage mods on my AV fit. Also did some math, and a proto Breach Mass Driver with maxed everything will deal about 800ish damage to armor. I read that the breach only does 60% to vehicle's.
EmperoR AjnaS Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 523	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:25:00 - [22] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: .... Untill a few days ago..... I FULLY skilled into them for the F*** of it all. Made a Plasma Cannon + Swarm Minmando because tanks are great for breakfast, lunch and din din... YAY, can't wait to try this out!! Finds out Swarms are getting shafted off the Minmando + overall nerf %&^$ $(&^$F()CAAAAHHHHHHH There goes 8 million sp down the drain and I havn't even fired one swarm yet :( I think I will take this as a sign, I was never meant to swarm... Forging and Plasma Cannon fo lyfe! I know how u feel bro.. Coz i just skilled into swarms and was on my way to skilling into minmando Turned of psn logged on forums nd first news i saw is the hotfix news Lost my sp .... btw im stop playing for a while atleast 2 months coz i cant bear it Almost all the weapons i use got hit by nerf hammer so thats it Min loyalist Amarr ideology GÖÑGÖÑGÖÑGÖÑGÖÑGÖÑ
Jammer Jalapeno Take Off Eh 380	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:39:00 - [23] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: No, we don't need more scrubs. Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to. Just keep it on the down low. Rom's been running weird fits forever man....before all this OP melee bunny hopping business he straight up rolled Forge Gun 24/7 it was insane. MmMmMm Glitter
Aeon Amadi 12	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:41:00 - [24] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: I said 'shafted off the Minmando' ( AKA, minmando is losing bonus) + overall nerf. Oh and P.S. Aeon, from what I read it's not just the range, apparantly it's the 'hit-impact' and 'turning radius' as well Shouldn't you know this stuff? OR Are you just trying to brush it under the rug? ROMULUS H3X wrote: teardrop I didn't ask for clarification on the reasoning behind the NERF.. I am sure it is completely warranted and vetted through a board of DUST professionals who live and breathe DUST. I was stating a FACT towards Aeon, since he thinks the only nerf was to the SHAFTED 'range' DISCLAIMER: I DON'T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT SWARMS, NOR AM I FIGHTING AGAINST THE NEW CHANGES. JUST HERE TO TELL A DISSAPOINTING TALE OF AN A/V SUIT THAT JUST WASN'T MEANT TO BE. That was like Six Degrees of Separation assumption logic, there. Very inaccurate assumption logic at that, but then again assumptions usually are. Do I really need to baby talk you with complete sentences and mention things that aren't relevant to my questions in order for you to grasp that maybe - just maybe - I might know what the other nerfs were? Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:49:00 - [25] - Quote The problem with swarms is that they lock on and require no real skill or aim to use. That is my problem with them. In a dropship this is painfully apparent. A forger can kill you but he has to have good aim, a plasma cannon warrior needs amazing aim and foresight. A swarmer needs only for you to come close enough to get that lock..... the missiles seem to travel out to what 400m+ once launched? "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
ROMULUS H3X research lab 748	Posted - 2015.09.25 15:08:00 - [26] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: I said 'shafted off the Minmando' ( AKA, minmando is losing bonus) + overall nerf. Oh and P.S. Aeon, from what I read it's not just the range, apparantly it's the 'hit-impact' and 'turning radius' as well Shouldn't you know this stuff? OR Are you just trying to brush it under the rug? ROMULUS H3X wrote: teardrop I didn't ask for clarification on the reasoning behind the NERF.. I am sure it is completely warranted and vetted through a board of DUST professionals who live and breathe DUST. I was stating a FACT towards Aeon, since he thinks the only nerf was to the SHAFTED 'range' I can say the same to you, bub. Can't even admit you read my post wrong so you skirt around it make assumption DISCLAIMER: I DON'T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT SWARMS, NOR AM I FIGHTING AGAINST THE NEW CHANGES. JUST HERE TO TELL A DISSAPOINTING TALE OF AN A/V SUIT THAT JUST WASN'T MEANT TO BE. That was like Six Degrees of Separation assumption logic, there. Very inaccurate assumption logic at that, but then again assumptions usually are. Do I really need to baby talk you with complete sentences and mention things that aren't relevant to my questions in order for you to grasp that maybe - just maybe - I might know what the other nerfs were? Holds microphone close to face and stands there dumbfounded for a few moments.. .. .. .. Hahahahha, okay bub... you OBVIOUSLY don't want to admit you read my post wrong....Let's skirt around it some more, you seem really good at dodging that issue and calling me the assumption king several different ways. You do realize that YOU brought up my statement and MADE THE ASSUMPTION that I was saying the range was getting shafted. I was saying that the swarms were getting SHAFTED [OFF OF THE MINMANDO] + overall nerf. Never said 'Range was getting SHAFTED' untill the next post just to mess with you!! Ya, dig? I was just trying to tell a dissapointing tale about about my A/V suit that just wasn't meant to be... Then you have to come in here and MUCK IT ALL UP with YOUR ASSUMPTIONS and disregarding my disclaimer. Drops Mic I'm done here. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 417	Posted - 2015.09.25 15:18:00 - [27] - Quote The part I find truly hilarious is people that complained about a complex damage mod loaded minmando just exchanged one monster for another. Enjoy yourselves.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 748	Posted - 2015.09.25 15:28:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: The problem with swarms is that they lock on and require no real skill or aim to use. That is my problem with them. In a dropship this is painfully apparent. A forger can kill you but he has to have good aim, a plasma cannon warrior needs amazing aim and foresight. A swarmer needs only for you to come close enough to get that lock..... the missiles seem to travel out to what 400m+ once launched? That's exactly the reason I never wanted to use them.. Just seemed boring with the 'lock on and let it do the job' thing. Just watching my team getting squashed by Proto Blaster Maddies over and over again.... enough is enough, stop beating on starter corp mercs with such cheap tactics. So I decided to say SCREW IT, I don't care that they require much muhc MUCH less skill. I JUST WANT THESE TANKS SENT TO THE JUNK YARD ASAP. Turns out it just wasn't meant to be.. I will let that 8mil SP sit there as a reminder that I was always meant to Forge and fire cannons FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Axel Giatsu Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415 47	Posted - 2015.09.25 15:28:00 - [29] - Quote Pretty soon they'll probably take plasma cannons off the minmando bonus too Recruiter for FAS Recruitment Post!!!!!!
ROMULUS H3X research lab 748	Posted - 2015.09.25 15:33:00 - [30] - Quote Axel Giatsu wrote: Pretty soon they'll probably take plasma cannons off the minmando bonus too Galmando gets the damage bonus to Plasma Cannons.. not minmandos.. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!



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