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zzZaXxx
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Posted - 2015.09.23 15:43:00 -
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Since we're finally addressing how shields recover from damage could we please take a look at how they receive damage?
The Scrambler Rifle is an extremely effective weapon overall and, as we all know, it just annihilates shields. No matter what you do to shields, all shield tankers can do when faced with SCR, ASCR, and LR is run. +48% dmg at prof 5 with 2 dmg mods = around 110 dmg against shields per SCR round. (!!!) The recharge buff will help somewhat but that is just too much damage to deal with.
So please address the issue at the source, starting with laser weapons' imbalanced damage profile. Just change it to +15/-15, normalizing it with other weapons. Even that will only move 3 or 4 dmg from shields to armor, but it's something!!
Someone tell me one good reason not to do this. You can't.
If you want to fix shields you have to address the main issue, which is that a) SCR dominates in general, but just DELETES shields, and b) ASCR and LR delete shields too even though they don't dominate in general, so c) laser damage profile needs to be balanced to +15/-15 just to start with. |
zzZaXxx
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Posted - 2015.09.23 19:00:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:Laser damage being +20/-20 is balanced, considering that explosive damage is -20/+20.
You don't see me complaining about how locus nades blap my armor suits, so I would suggest you not complain about laser damage.
I also think that the CPM threads regarding shields have already established that this is not a change that will work, since they need to first establish a framework for how shields work, similar to the speed:EHP curve that Rattati brought in. Before that happens, anything that's done is just a bandaid that will have to be removed/reworked again when shields are actually fixed.
Laser weapons need to be compared to plasma, rail, and projectile weapons, not to mass drivers, flaylock pistols, and locus grenades.
As for your second point, I think it should be clear to everyone that, when it comes to the effectiveness of shield tanking, fixing shield recharge mechanics is important, but it is no less important to address the extreme extent to which laser weapons, particularly Scrambler Rifles, dominate shields.
Do you even shield tank bro? Moving 3-4 dmg on SCR from shields to armor will help shield tankers while not overly affecting armor tankers. Shield tankers need a little relief from the ownage of laser weapons. Is this not glaringly obvious??? How can this change be anything but good? This needs to happen now, not in 2, 3, 4 months. |
zzZaXxx
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Posted - 2015.09.25 18:22:00 -
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Ok....now that Cal/Min shields just got mega-buffed, and SCR and ASCR got nerfed, clearly we need to wait and see. If shields STILL are taking too much of a beating from laser weapons, I think the next place to look for balancing is how these weapons are doing damage to shields, starting with damage profile. |
zzZaXxx
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Posted - 2015.09.25 20:02:00 -
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Maybe the increased heat cost of charging will apply to those microcharges. That would balance the extra damage by decreasing shots before overheat.
LR is fine because any slight OPness it has is a) situational and b) offset by it's total lack of CQC ability. Now that RR is about to be king again it will need a buff.
ASCR is still a bit of an enigma, but now that shields are awesome and SCR is harder to use it will have a significant role, as it destroyifies shields.
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zzZaXxx
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Posted - 2015.09.25 21:01:00 -
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Only charge shots produce more heat now, not normal shots. The SCR overall is not getting a heat nerf, though, like I was saying, if the increased heat cost also applies to microcharges (and I don't see why it wouldn't) then the SCR will in effect experience an overall heat nerf to some extent.
It's SCR hipfire kick increase that's being nerfed. I for one already find the SCR's hipfire kick to be a bit much for me, so it's entering RR territory. All things considered, SCR will probably not be OP anymore. Finally!!! |
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