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Daemonn Adima
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:11:00 -
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Still being fairly new and choosing Gallente based on philosophy, I've learned that each race has benefits to using certain types of weaponry. I did not know this at the start and now I'm wondering where I stand. I've gone up to level 3 in ARs but I can't help but feel like they aren't the best.
Sometimes between ScR and Rail Rifle, I feel like I get melted. I'm running G/I Assault suit with with about 490hp and whatever the standard shield amount is.
In my experience I'd have to list them like this:
Rail Rifle
Scramble Rifle
Assault Rifle
Combat Rifle
I can drop weaker suits very fast with my AR but sometimes against equal suits and same level weapons, the Rail Rifle just puts me to shame. How does everyone else feel about rifles?
I'm curious about the general consensus, not bashing on anyone rifle or anything. |
Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:15:00 -
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If anything... The combat rifle outclasses the Ar currently... Or maybe that's just me...
Learned the ways of N4gg3er from Alcina's mom.
Min Loyalist.
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:17:00 -
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As someone who seems to have a huge "shoot me" target painted on my back, I seem to die alot more from are RRs and ScRs. Yeah the occasional Breach AR and TAR kill me, but not as much as those.
As for how I feel? I am an HMG kind of guy, don't really care either way about rifles.
Shotguns on the other hand...
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:20:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:As someone who seems to have a huge "shoot me" target painted on my back, I seem to die alot more from are RRs and ScRs. Yeah the occasional Breach AR and TAR kill me, but not as much as those.
As for how I feel? I am an HMG kind of guy, don't really care either way about rifles.
Shotguns on the other hand...
If you had me as a logi... Shotguns... Wouldn't bother you... 89.9 percent of the time.
Learned the ways of N4gg3er from Alcina's mom.
Min Loyalist.
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:31:00 -
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The top three are ScR, Rr. And Cr. These three are fairly balanced against each other with range being the deciding factor.
Only reason Ar is still used is for the variants (which lead to the RR and CR) or because of BPO/ Apex/ modders. AR are outclassed by every other weapon due to the increase in mobility. CQ doesnt matter in super mario world.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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Bradric Banewolf
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:31:00 -
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You picked a hard road, but a true one. The AR.....
Use the Ion pistol
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:40:00 -
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The ion pistol rocks my socks!! So it's pretty much as I assumed or worse. I love the AR but don't necessarily love it's performance, I'm finding myself out ranged and out damaged. Is it senseless for me to stay Gal and spec RR or is it worth it to use Caldari suits if I'm tryna go RR?
After playing a few more games, I'm feeling disheartened about the AR. Pretty much at least 2-3 times today I've been in a gunfight that ends so abruptly I assume they must have proto gear or something... but it's a normal assault suit with some basic RR variant. Here I am with adv. AR and adv. Assault suit getting pooped on.
So, do I respec? Or reroll? Or bite the bullet and git gud? |
Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:42:00 -
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... If you want to be a gal loyalist go gal. If you want to defy racial parity go gal ass with ARR.
Learned the ways of N4gg3er from Alcina's mom.
Min Loyalist.
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:46:00 -
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I'd say assault rail rifle due to RoF and how surprisingly effective it is at range.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:48:00 -
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The Combat Rifle (especially the Assault Combat Rifle) is the best weapon for me when used without the racial bonus. A SCR becomes very powerful when used on an Amarr Assault though.
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:48:00 -
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I love the ion pistol, I have a weird fit
M/1 assault
4 complex precision enhancers
2x creodron ion pistols
forgotten the rest, general reactive and ferroscale setup.
some ion pistol videos I made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q46IN-wdsJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T432XPw0stQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-nbp-URKM
hopefully some day I'll get insane kills with one, think I'll make a 5 complex damage mod cal assault suit with single ion pistol just for the lolz, with prof 4 that should be getting around 80-90 damage per shot.
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:52:00 -
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I've been using the Gek Assault rifle and wow it wrecks crazy. the gun fights = so close that me and the enemy would have little hp left but either way its a great rifle that REQUIRES SKILL.
Unlike the Combat rifle that players spam and the easy to kill rail rifle. <-- easy weapons.
I'm more satisfied with my assault rifle. Its range may not be good but its deadly if you master it.
Sgt kik has some great videos and he destroys mercs with his Duvolle (misspelled) and the Ion pistol.
Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:55:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:I've been using the Gek Assault rifle and wow it wrecks crazy. the gun fights = so close that me and the enemy would have little hp left but either way its a great rifle that REQUIRES SKILL.
Unlike the Combat rifle that players spam and the easy to kill rail rifle. <-- easy weapons.
I'm more satisfied with my assault rifle. Its range may not be good but its deadly if you master it.
Sgt kik has some great videos and he destroys mercs with his Duvolle (misspelled) and the Ion pistol.
nah bro you spelled duvolle correctly! I've been trying out the breach AR and it just sucks, I try tactical AR as well I love the gun but it does shield damage so again it feels so weak
however the AR has good DPS and you know what it's been over a year, well over a year since I used a duvolle or even a GEK, even the name seems unfamiliar,
that's what I gotta do tomorrow.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:58:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:As someone who seems to have a huge "shoot me" target painted on my back, I seem to die alot more from are RRs and ScRs. Yeah the occasional Breach AR and TAR kill me, but not as much as those.
As for how I feel? I am an HMG kind of guy, don't really care either way about rifles.
Shotguns on the other hand... If you had me as a logi... Shotguns... Wouldn't bother you... 89.9 percent of the time.
we can squad up tomorrow.... no school so i can play in da morning... or saturday
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Jalame La Bola
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:00:00 -
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Ishukone assault rail rifle
Mamenme El Bicho.
Mami's a hurricane, you should see the way she blow me.
Chrysler 300 owner.
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:04:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:As someone who seems to have a huge "shoot me" target painted on my back, I seem to die alot more from are RRs and ScRs. Yeah the occasional Breach AR and TAR kill me, but not as much as those.
As for how I feel? I am an HMG kind of guy, don't really care either way about rifles.
Shotguns on the other hand... If you had me as a logi... Shotguns... Wouldn't bother you... 89.9 percent of the time. we can squad up tomorrow.... no school so i can play in da morning... or saturday
Sweet, wont be on until the afternoon though (around 2230 EVE time). But I will be later tonight (would be the morning for you I believe).
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Keeper of the List
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:13:00 -
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What's funny is I find myself ONLY able to use the Breach variants. The high damage I find is necessary in 1v1 fights, when I use the GEK, I get put down much faster, even while landing my shots.
The Breach kills some targets so fast I feel bad, they had no chance to even react. Reloading isn't my issue, it's coming up against other suits that can take almost a full clip. With dodging and whatever miss % I end up with, they survive than spank me with RR or ScR.
I don't want to give up on the AR but I feel like it's holding me back in some situations, especially when it becomes a ranged fight over 20-30m.
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:17:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:I've been using the Gek Assault rifle and wow it wrecks crazy. the gun fights = so close that me and the enemy would have little hp left but either way its a great rifle that REQUIRES SKILL.
Unlike the Combat rifle that players spam and the easy to kill rail rifle. <-- easy weapons.
I'm more satisfied with my assault rifle. Its range may not be good but its deadly if you master it.
Sgt kik has some great videos and he destroys mercs with his Duvolle (misspelled) and the Ion pistol. nah bro you spelled duvolle correctly! I've been trying out the breach AR and it just sucks, I try tactical AR as well I love the gun but it does shield damage so again it feels so weak however the AR has good DPS and you know what it's been over a year, well over a year since I used a duvolle or even a GEK, even the name seems unfamiliar, that's what I gotta do tomorrow.
Tactical Assault Rifle = wrecks but you have to time and make every shot count. It destroys anything caldari and Minmatar. lol
The krins damage mod gives me a boost with the Tactical.
the Gek is expensive at 10,000 isk per weapon so if you are low on isk = use it wisely.
Just practice with your aim on the tactical and bam in no time you'll be good at it.
Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:21:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:10,000 ISK is expensive
*sniggers*
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:30:00 -
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I've always been partial to the SCR myself. It's a tad bit different to get used to, but certainly effective.
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.09.22 22:42:00 -
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Racial Weapon + Racial Suit= ScR
Racial Weapon= ARR
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
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Posted - 2015.09.23 00:43:00 -
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I use ar alot. Youll die getting into range. Also even when in range youll die to a rr firing at the battle from beyond your range. Its a fun gun but ar isnt made for this game anymore. CCP seems to want it severely gimped against all other forms of combat.
Crush them
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.23 00:49:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:I'd say assault rail rifle due to RoF and how surprisingly effective it is at range.
ScR better damage same (or better) range high alpha charge shot, im sorry please do tell me how the ARR is so wonderful
oh and did I mention you dont have to wait for your first shot to charge to begin shooting? and that the ScR is deadly accurate with little to no dispersion if used correctly
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.23 00:49:00 -
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I played 5 games just now. Every death was to something other than an AR. Guess it's not worth using. I don't even understand the ttk on the RR and ScR. .5 seconds and I'm dead sometimes. No reaction time possible.
Also, these last 5 games everyone is in proto. Its not worth playing, toe to toe I can't win even if I land everything. Their armor and guns are just better. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.23 03:37:00 -
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You are right. That weapon is just like the Hmg, it is simply not designed to be used beyond 25 or so meters.
The racial thing is a fine to-do but it would be a good idea to think of Gal and Cal as hard mode while Amarr and Matari are easy mode.
The Ar fails within the current meta, just as shield tanking fails.
Racial dedication works well with armor tanking amarr and speed tanking jumpy minmatar.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.09.23 03:41:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:I played 5 games just now. Every death was to something other than an AR. Guess it's not worth using. I don't even understand the ttk on the RR and ScR. .5 seconds and I'm dead sometimes. No reaction time possible.
Also, these last 5 games everyone is in proto. Its not worth playing, toe to toe I can't win even if I land everything. Their armor and guns are just better.
Try a different mode
LongLiveQueenZarZar
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
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Posted - 2015.09.23 03:51:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:I played 5 games just now. Every death was to something other than an AR. Guess it's not worth using. I don't even understand the ttk on the RR and ScR. .5 seconds and I'm dead sometimes. No reaction time possible.
Also, these last 5 games everyone is in proto. Its not worth playing, toe to toe I can't win even if I land everything. Their armor and guns are just better.
You should be targeting them from my 20gj particle cannons. They dont syand much of a chance with 2 complex dmg mods and matching heat sink. Its a helluva way to pass your time while leveling up. I guarentee you score higher and get less deaths.
Crush them
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Ateroith
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.23 03:55:00 -
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Preference, preference, preference. They all rek nubs in the right hands.
"...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:20:00 -
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Ateroith wrote:Preference, preference, preference. They all rek nubs in the right hands.
Sadly we are not there yet where people chose a weapon based on preference rather than what is the easiest way to kill. The mass amount of ARR right now is proof of that, but fortunately there are some of us who have sticked to our preferences for a long time.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:29:00 -
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If you are running the Gal-assault, I recommend running the combination of Assault Combat Rifle + Ion Pistol.
This is commando training wheels
You open up with the ion pistol to strip shields or straight up kill weaker suits, and then finish the armor with the assault combat rifle. This works against everything in the game.
If you step up to the gallente commando, then this fit becomes
Assault combat Rifle + Tactical AR, same strategy.
Another variant is the Tactical AR + Breach Submachine Gun.
The breach smg does more dps vrs armor than the tactical ar when both are Prof V, so you wreck their shields with the tac and then smash their armor with the breach.
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.09.23 15:12:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:If you are running the Gal-assault, I recommend running the combination of Assault Combat Rifle + Ion Pistol.
This is commando training wheels
You open up with the ion pistol to strip shields or straight up kill weaker suits, and then finish the armor with the assault combat rifle. This works against everything in the game.
If you step up to the gallente commando, then this fit becomes
Assault combat Rifle + Tactical AR, same strategy.
Another variant is the Tactical AR + Breach Submachine Gun.
The breach smg does more dps vrs armor than the tactical ar when both are Prof V, so you wreck their shields with the tac and then smash their armor with the breach.
For whatever reason I've never opened up with my Ion pistol. Would always switch when my clip is out. But against certain targets this would make a big difference. Thanks for the tip! |
Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.23 15:16:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:I played 5 games just now. Every death was to something other than an AR. Guess it's not worth using. I don't even understand the ttk on the RR and ScR. .5 seconds and I'm dead sometimes. No reaction time possible.
Also, these last 5 games everyone is in proto. Its not worth playing, toe to toe I can't win even if I land everything. Their armor and guns are just better. You should be targeting them from my 20gj particle cannons. They dont syand much of a chance with 2 complex dmg mods and matching heat sink. Its a helluva way to pass your time while leveling up. I guarentee you score higher and get less deaths.
Got a couple games in with ya yesterday. I was mostly on the ground, ended up feeling a little outclassed in FW. I'd love to be a dedicated gunner for you today. I could use the isk right now too. I started running militia soma tanks and love em. Been having great fun learning the vehicle nuances.
Invite me today and I'll gun for as long as I'm on!
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
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Posted - 2015.09.23 15:43:00 -
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Watch the video in my signature, it shows the strategy using a scrambler pistol. Same tactic with the ion pistol, plus you have a charge shot option.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.23 17:20:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Still being fairly new and choosing Gallente based on philosophy, I've learned that each race has benefits to using certain types of weaponry. I did not know this at the start and now I'm wondering where I stand. I've gone up to level 3 in ARs but I can't help but feel like they aren't the best.
Sometimes between ScR and Rail Rifle, I feel like I get melted. I'm running G/I Assault suit with with about 490hp and whatever the standard shield amount is.
In my experience I'd have to list them like this:
Rail Rifle
Scramble Rifle
Assault Rifle
Combat Rifle
I can drop weaker suits very fast with my AR but sometimes against equal suits and same level weapons, the Rail Rifle just puts me to shame. How does everyone else feel about rifles?
I'm curious about the general consensus, not bashing on anyone rifle or anything.
Speaking from experience of trying them all for lengthy periods of time, it really depends.
For Gal Assault, you'd be best off with either Assault Rifle (or one of its variants) or the Assault Rail Rifle. I recently put the ARR on my Gal Assault and I love it, however I'm so used to not having a charge up (though it is minimal) and it makes me miss my Breach AR.
Totally up to you though. I will say the ARR REKS and the Assault Rifle takes actual skill to use, you have to pay closer attention to your HP when in gunfight.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.23 18:39:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Still being fairly new and choosing Gallente based on philosophy, I've learned that each race has benefits to using certain types of weaponry. I did not know this at the start and now I'm wondering where I stand. I've gone up to level 3 in ARs but I can't help but feel like they aren't the best.
Sometimes between ScR and Rail Rifle, I feel like I get melted. I'm running G/I Assault suit with with about 490hp and whatever the standard shield amount is.
In my experience I'd have to list them like this:
Rail Rifle
Scramble Rifle
Assault Rifle
Combat Rifle
I can drop weaker suits very fast with my AR but sometimes against equal suits and same level weapons, the Rail Rifle just puts me to shame. How does everyone else feel about rifles?
I'm curious about the general consensus, not bashing on anyone rifle or anything.
As a Gallante you should be dying more to the ARR. It is meant to eat armor. The kill feed shows the mix pretty well.
Right now the power level is:
1. Scramblers by a far Margin
2. Combat rifles
3. RRs, More appropriately the ARR as the RR itself is not very strong.
4 ARs, way behind the rest.
For you as a armor tanker you probably do feel that the RRs are tough, because they are meant to be against armor suits. As you get more SPs and develop into more suits you will have more options to counter play whatever the other team is using. |
Vesta Opalus
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.23 19:22:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Still being fairly new and choosing Gallente based on philosophy, I've learned that each race has benefits to using certain types of weaponry. I did not know this at the start and now I'm wondering where I stand. I've gone up to level 3 in ARs but I can't help but feel like they aren't the best.
Sometimes between ScR and Rail Rifle, I feel like I get melted. I'm running G/I Assault suit with with about 490hp and whatever the standard shield amount is.
In my experience I'd have to list them like this:
Rail Rifle
Scramble Rifle
Assault Rifle
Combat Rifle
I can drop weaker suits very fast with my AR but sometimes against equal suits and same level weapons, the Rail Rifle just puts me to shame. How does everyone else feel about rifles?
I'm curious about the general consensus, not bashing on anyone rifle or anything.
My power rankings would go like so:
Tac Scrambler (on amarr assault)
Tac AR
Laser Rifle (on amarr assault)
Ass Scrambler (on amarr assault)
Ass Combat Rifle (on min assault)
Tac Scrambler (non amarr)
Ass Combat Rifle (non min)
Ass Rail Rifle
Ass Scrambler (non amarr)
Assault Rifle
Breach Rail Rifle
Laser Rifle (non Amarr Assault)
**** I dont use very much these days so its not on the list:
Breach/Burst AR
Burst CR
and whatever else I might have missed. |
Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.23 19:36:00 -
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Proto RR: 84 CPU / 17 PG
Proto CR: 81 CPU / 8 PG
Proto AR: 90 CPU / 13 PG
Proto ScR: 92 CPU / 20 PG
Grabbed these numbers from protofits, so I'm not certain they are 100% accurate. The CR remains incredibly easy to fit while the ScR is the most CPU/PG hungry bastard.
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argel999
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.09.23 19:37:00 -
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For me... ACR (Minmatar Suit), I do around 160 kills per day with it, so simply I love it.
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Jammer Jalapeno
Take Off Eh
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Posted - 2015.09.23 21:38:00 -
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It's hard to say really, I always go by what your fighting at that moment and how laggy the battle is.
If you want to be fast than the mintard/combat rifle works awesome.
Casual Cruising....def the scrambler
Fighting a team of bricked out peeps with lag....gal assault with the good ol AR
I do see a lot of people running the gal assault/assault rail rifle combo....Rail rifles are pretty nasty, but to each their own.
MmMmMm Glitter
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
100
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Posted - 2015.09.23 22:32:00 -
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Rail Rifles surprise me the most. If I take a SR charge up shot as I swing out around a corner to square off, I don't really expect to walk away from that one victorious unless they are lower mu.
But the rail rifle has got me ducking behind cover after .5 seconds of taking fire. Even spraying as I run around between things can take me down to under 50% and they never had a solid bead on me.
Now here's a question: I've been recently upgrading my armor systems, handheld weaponry and drop suit engineering and electronics skills. I've got everything to level 3, except electronics and engineering which are at 2.
I've started to experiment with reactive and ferro scale plates over my heavy basics. I've come to a point where I feel my slow strafing is sometimes the reason I'll lose a gunfight, as they strafe really fast and I can just tell I'm not hitting them well. Meanwhile I can't strafe as wide or fast so they kind of dance around me.
So I made the switch to reactive plates. And I did worse! Worked on my strafe skills for 2 days of gaming only to have some of my worst games ever! I've lost so much ISK the past 2 days that I might just go back to my original build. Currently it is:
Assault G/1- Series
GB-9 Breach AR
Ion Pistol
Locus Grenade
R-9 Uplink
Enhanced Armor Repairer
Enhanced Armor Repairer
Enhanced Armor Plate
Enhanced Armor Plate
Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Light Damage Modifier
Basic Light Damage Modifier
With 170shp on shield and 564ahp and 18.00hp/s repair rate I feel like I should be doing better than I am. Feeling out kitted though. What do you guys run for assault suits? |
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.23 23:10:00 -
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Same pretty much
Scale / vanilla plate, dual repper and pill (green/ red)
Dmg in highs or buffer.
If you want to wreck with the ar get into range and ads with the burst variant while feathering. Youll get kills a plenty. Pair in with a flaylock for scouts and finishers.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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XxWarlordxX97
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N
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Posted - 2015.09.24 02:31:00 -
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Shotgun assault with RE's is the easiest way to win every fight
Buff my cal heavy
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.24 03:21:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Same pretty much
Scale / vanilla plate, dual repper and pill (green/ red)
Dmg in highs or buffer.
If you want to wreck with the ar get into range and ads with the burst variant while feathering. Youll get kills a plenty. Pair in with a flaylock for scouts and finishers.
I've yet to try the burst variant AR. I like the Breach alot and dislike the normal AR because it just doesn't kill fast enough. It's like shooting bbs at someone, they run away fairly unharmed.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.09.24 03:44:00 -
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Subscribing to this thread for reasons.
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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2015.09.24 07:47:00 -
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I was just doing my bimonthly perusal of the Dust forums for old times' sake and saw this thread. Since I really like weapon balance discussions I thought I'd chip in.
How semi-auto (and maybe burst) weapons work in Dust is fundamentally broken. This is the basic model:
1. The weapon is designed so that, were it fired full auto, it would absolutely dominate with much more DPS than full auto weapons like AR
2. To balance for that, the weapon is gimped to semi-auto, so in practice most players will only manage similar DPS to full auto weapons.
This is terrible design, for two reasons:
1. It is obviously open to turbo controller abuse.
2. It bears no relation to the real world purpose of semi auto (and burst), which is to reduce the recoil and bloom from full auto and/or conserve ammunition. No actual military weapon manufacturer ever said 'this weapon is a bit too good. We'd better gimp it with semi-auto'. Nor would any manufacturer in New Eden.
A much better model, used in Planetside 2 (which I play now), is this:
1. The weapon is designed so that, were it fired full auto, it would match full auto weapons.
2. Semi auto or burst is provided in order to control recoil, etc, so the weapon can be used over longer distances, at the cost of short range effectiveness.
This is a pretty basic feature of weapon balance that Dust has got wrong from at least the days of TAR dominance, and continuing to the present day ScR. A semi-auto weapon using a turbo controller (or having the trigger spammed at the max fire rate) should NOT out-DPS a full auto at close range. If it does, that means it dominates at close range and long range, and the weapons are seriously unbalanced. |
Jakkal Shoobah
Eastern Star Recon Group
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Posted - 2015.09.24 08:02:00 -
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Gal assault was my first suit. Year and a half experience. I'm a Gallente loyalist. If you don't care for the AR playstyle then don't read.
Here's what you need to know about you the gallente.
Gallente weapons never fail you. You fail the Gallente weapons
You can't out tank the amarr
You can't beat the minmatar in a race.
You can't hope to have shields of the cadari .
**** caldari because ccp decided they are at odds with the gallente .
However you can make an solid solo suit with enough health and regen and speed to stay alive and help out. You're the best repped solo ( only by like 3 when compared to amarr ). You're tied for the second fastest assault with caldari. You have solid armor and a slight shield buffer.
Gal assault is all about maneuverability/positioning and dishing out constant damage while absorbing what you can rep. There are lots of ways to fit it. You can beat any other rifle , its just a matter of knowing how to play them into your AR. Its all about preference when it comes to the AR you use. Knowing how the variant mimics the vanilla version lets you fit and play according to most any situation.( TAC to scrambler. Burst to combat rifle. Breach to rail rifle)
The AR has beautifully well rounded stats, its easy to use , and it has a lot bullets. Its only shortcoming is range. The AR has an optimal range of 45ish. TAC has the most range 65ish, burst is second, breach and regular are the same. Dps from highest to lowest is TAC burst AR breach. Still comes down to preference and situation, but all are solid variants.
There's a lot to learn. Just know the racial way is a hard one.
While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
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