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Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:55:00 - [31] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I wasn't aware they were being nerfed. Please share your insight with the group They should BE! they can scan a whole enemy team / their equipment and vehicles, Plus Your Whole team can see this... I mean you dont see a rep tool repping the whole team or a nanohive resupplying the whole team so why should 1 piece of equipment be that OP that it can Make it near impossible to flank or do any type of strategic manoeuvring around the enemy team. Scanners are and always will be ( until nerfed ) a ridiculous part of this game. I couldn't agree more. Wallhacks are considered cheating in every single FPS, but on Dust most players still say "it's a valid technique" or "it's part of the game". It's completely broken and should be removed ASAP. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 428	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:59:00 - [32] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Nerf Saxon he is a try hard who stomps pubs. Nerf him so hard he can only play pc!!! Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 606	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:53:00 - [33] - Quote oh great..................lets have scouts roam free again and make the gall logi usless. if the scanner gets nerferd then the gall logi WILL NEED to be buffed in order for it to do its job. so options. 1. nerf scanner and buff gall logi bonus or 2.leave them as is. https://zkillboard.com/kill/47521458/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/47521142 Oppose me and you shall incure my wrath.
Spaceman-Rob Standby Retaliation 950	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:06:00 - [34] - Quote Nevermind nerf them, i say get rid of the bloody things all together, the game was in a much better place back when we didnt have them around.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N 3	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:47:00 - [35] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: saxonmish wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I wasn't aware they were being nerfed. Please share your insight with the group They should BE! they can scan a whole enemy team / their equipment and vehicles, Plus Your Whole team can see this... I mean you dont see a rep tool repping the whole team or a nanohive resupplying the whole team so why should 1 piece of equipment be that OP that it can Make it near impossible to flank or do any type of strategic manoeuvring around the enemy team. Scanners are and always will be ( until nerfed ) a ridiculous part of this game. I couldn't agree more. Wallhacks are considered cheating in every single FPS, but on Dust most players still say "it's a valid technique" or "it's part of the game". It's completely broken and should be removed ASAP. Thats the thing, EWAR/actives are apart of the game & meant to be tweaked around with to see what fits you etc etc... its such a touchy subject its insane. YEAH, and to that guy oh let scouts run free BS, NOW with current EWAR & such the majority FOTM have moved on since its not OPOPOP anymore. I don't want super scout lyte assualts. I hated it then & do NOT want that. But i think Kirks idea would fix it. Yeah use something thats not OP anymore for an excuse to not have something thats a little OP looked at. Now for them to only scan heavies is ridiculous, but its still rock-paper-scissors thig. DFS-3 COM damps & at least lvl 3? GS the rest you may need 1 damp or two but its still a counter, an inconvenient but its there Come ON Sax you have the counters right there with you're 100M+ SP! My medical/other issues won't stop my determination 190k to CA CK.0 The awesomest suit in New Eden
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:47:00 - [36] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: oh great..................lets have scouts roam free again and make the gall logi usless. if the scanner gets nerferd then the gall logi WILL NEED to be buffed in order for it to do its job. so options. 1. nerf scanner and buff gall logi bonus or 2.leave them as is. Or remove scanners SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:49:00 - [37] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: saxonmish wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I wasn't aware they were being nerfed. Please share your insight with the group They should BE! they can scan a whole enemy team / their equipment and vehicles, Plus Your Whole team can see this... I mean you dont see a rep tool repping the whole team or a nanohive resupplying the whole team so why should 1 piece of equipment be that OP that it can Make it near impossible to flank or do any type of strategic manoeuvring around the enemy team. Scanners are and always will be ( until nerfed ) a ridiculous part of this game. I couldn't agree more. Wallhacks are considered cheating in every single FPS, but on Dust most players still say "it's a valid technique" or "it's part of the game". It's completely broken and should be removed ASAP. Thats the thing, EWAR/actives are apart of the game & meant to be tweaked around with to see what fits you etc etc... its such a touchy subject its insane. YEAH, and to that guy oh let scouts run free BS, NOW with current EWAR & such the majority FOTM have moved on since its not OPOPOP anymore. I don't want super scout lyte assualts. I hated it then & do NOT want that. But i think Kirks idea would fix it. Yeah use something thats not OP anymore for an excuse to not have something thats a little OP looked at. Now for them to only scan heavies is ridiculous, but its still rock-paper-scissors thig. DFS-3 COM damps & at least lvl 3? GS the rest you may need 1 damp or two but its still a counter, an inconvenient but its there Come ON Sax you have the counters right there with you're 100M+ SP! A tank is a nice counter lol SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N 3	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:01:00 - [38] - Quote Part two You can run scotsmans & bons. You can put three complex damps on your scotsmans and guess what else you can fit? Some HP, some equipment, some OP officers gear. 'I shouldn't have to run a counter to something to counter something i don't like because its inconvenient' is all I'm getting from you. You'd think you've learned after asking for increased payouts in pubs, when you were busy proto stomping against starter fits which shouldn't warrant high payouts anyway and losing ISK cause ya know proto is expensive, that screaming this on the forums wouldn't be the best idea man. As for my concern Operative, scouts are assassins. Well there supposed to be anyway. Don't know how to do that, and if you say only sidearms for scouts then im going to say, make every light weapon for scouts only cause ya know were OP & s***, equipable in your sidearm slot. So .l. you unless you give me a reasonable reason for all this BS & why. Scotsman scout with bons is OP because duh OFFICER gear OMFG FOTM scouts RIIIIIIIIISE!!! But the bons hit detection needs to be looked at a bit as well. My medical/other issues won't stop my determination 190k to CA CK.0 The awesomest suit in New Eden
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N 3	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:03:00 - [39] - Quote saxonmish wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: saxonmish wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I wasn't aware they were being nerfed. Please share your insight with the group They should BE! they can scan a whole enemy team / their equipment and vehicles, Plus Your Whole team can see this... I mean you dont see a rep tool repping the whole team or a nanohive resupplying the whole team so why should 1 piece of equipment be that OP that it can Make it near impossible to flank or do any type of strategic manoeuvring around the enemy team. Scanners are and always will be ( until nerfed ) a ridiculous part of this game. I couldn't agree more. Wallhacks are considered cheating in every single FPS, but on Dust most players still say "it's a valid technique" or "it's part of the game". It's completely broken and should be removed ASAP. Thats the thing, EWAR/actives are apart of the game & meant to be tweaked around with to see what fits you etc etc... its such a touchy subject its insane. YEAH, and to that guy oh let scouts run free BS, NOW with current EWAR & such the majority FOTM have moved on since its not OPOPOP anymore. I don't want super scout lyte assualts. I hated it then & do NOT want that. But i think Kirks idea would fix it. Yeah use something thats not OP anymore for an excuse to not have something thats a little OP looked at. Now for them to only scan heavies is ridiculous, but its still rock-paper-scissors thig. DFS-3 COM damps & at least lvl 3? GS the rest you may need 1 damp or two but its still a counter, an inconvenient but its there Come ON Sax you have the counters right there with you're 100M+ SP! A tank is a nice counter lol Aren't you not skilled into vehicles anymore? My medical/other issues won't stop my determination 190k to CA CK.0 The awesomest suit in New Eden
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N 3	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:04:00 - [40] - Quote I have stated my case. TPLAK! My version TPLAMFer sorry. My medical/other issues won't stop my determination 190k to CA CK.0 The awesomest suit in New Eden

Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 606	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:32:00 - [41] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: oh great..................lets have scouts roam free again and make the gall logi usless. if the scanner gets nerferd then the gall logi WILL NEED to be buffed in order for it to do its job. so options. 1. nerf scanner and buff gall logi bonus or 2.leave them as is. Or remove scanners then what give the gall logi 20% to effectiveness of precion enhancments per level??? if you remove scanners gsll logi will need something like........5% increased R.E. radius per level. cant just out right say scanners need to go without a good reason. scanners counter undampened suits. dampened suits counter scanners......fully speccede gall logi counters everything except for double or trip complex damp gal scout. see the pattern here? https://zkillboard.com/kill/47521458/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/47521142 Oppose me and you shall incure my wrath.
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:41:00 - [42] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Go burn your PS3
LHughes Ancient Exiles. 450	Posted - 2015.09.15 14:25:00 - [43] - Quote Buff profile dampeners so you only need 1 to negate all active scans Taking them out is stupid, why remove a variable that gives logis more to do instead of just repping, reviving and replenishing ammo? However having to have virtually 0 HP just to avoid scans is a bit silly EDIT: Maybe 1 profile dampener for scouts, 2 for assaults and 3 for heavies My signature
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 312	Posted - 2015.09.15 15:26:00 - [44] - Quote Just gonna leave this here. Check Us Out! KEQ and ROFL. Diplomat. I lik 2 psh rd buttnz
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 370	Posted - 2015.09.15 15:37:00 - [45] - Quote Nope. \0/
DDx77 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 379	Posted - 2015.09.15 21:37:00 - [46] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: saxonmish wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: oh great..................lets have scouts roam free again and make the gall logi usless. if the scanner gets nerferd then the gall logi WILL NEED to be buffed in order for it to do its job. so options. 1. nerf scanner and buff gall logi bonus or 2.leave them as is. Or remove scanners then what give the gall logi 20% to effectiveness of precion enhancments per level??? if you remove scanners gsll logi will need something like........5% increased R.E. radius per level. cant just out right say scanners need to go without a good reason. scanners counter undampened suits. dampened suits counter scanners......fully speccede gall logi counters everything except for double or trip complex damp gal scout. see the pattern here? -- I use and love the Gal logi and I am all for a change like this to the bonus I have scanners lvl5 and I use them because it's the only way to counter them They are useful in PC but in general it's a boring playstyle
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.09.15 21:43:00 - [47] - Quote You would. Lol *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
VAHZZ Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2015.09.15 21:45:00 - [48] - Quote LHughes wrote: Buff profile dampeners so you only need 1 to negate all active scans Taking them out is stupid, why remove a variable that gives logis more to do instead of just repping, reviving and replenishing ammo? However having to have virtually 0 HP just to avoid scans is a bit silly EDIT: Maybe 1 profile dampener for scouts, 2 for assaults and 3 for heavies This. "I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 751	Posted - 2015.09.15 22:14:00 - [49] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Would you be willing to trade your core locus for allotek flux grenades for it? (If flux grenades knocked out enemy huds so they can't see friends or enemy infantry tags?) 'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log. They all died.
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.09.15 22:16:00 - [50] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Would you be willing to trade your core locus for allotek flux grenades for it? (If flux grenades knocked out enemy huds so they can't see friends or enemy infantry tags?) Yes, personally i think core locus are way to op SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)

maybe deadcatz the nomercs 751	Posted - 2015.09.15 22:58:00 - [51] - Quote saxonmish wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Would you be willing to trade your core locus for allotek flux grenades for it? (If flux grenades knocked out enemy huds so they can't see friends or enemy infantry tags?) Yes, personally i think core locus are way to op ......that's something you don't here from that specific person. Need to go buy a lotto ticket. Gonna be rolling in catnip tonight! 'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log. They all died.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 9	Posted - 2015.09.15 23:09:00 - [52] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Would you be willing to trade your core locus for allotek flux grenades for it? (If flux grenades knocked out enemy huds so they can't see friends or enemy infantry tags?) I know this is a popular idea and has been around as an idea for counters to cloaks, and various other troubleshooting ideasGÇª but I don't think this mechanic should be applied to Flux nades. Flux are perfectly viable as they are, in fact they are my go to for the grenade slot. The addition of disrupting active equipment would likely push them over to the "OP why would you equip anything else" side of things. I have always thought this should be a separate grenade type. EMP grenadeGÇª nocks all Active Modules and Equipment into a cool down cycle. Increase radius by tier. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2015.09.15 23:36:00 - [53] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: LHughes wrote: Buff profile dampeners so you only need 1 to negate all active scans Taking them out is stupid, why remove a variable that gives logis more to do instead of just repping, reviving and replenishing ammo? However having to have virtually 0 HP just to avoid scans is a bit silly EDIT: Maybe 1 profile dampener for scouts, 2 for assaults and 3 for heavies This. This would kill scouts. If Assaults could beat 15 dB with 2 dampeners, then why run a Scout? Knifing would be the only reason, and even then, with the significant HP advantage of Assaults, you could go 3 or 4 and be good enough at beating Inner Ring Scans. This leads me to the second part, the fact that it would completely negate the Inner Rings, which were intended to be unbeatable, assuming you used some Precision Enhancers. If Inner Ring Scans can be beaten, what would be the point of Precision? At that point you might as well remove the entire EWAR system, Active and Passive, and at least then you might get performance increases. What would eventually happen, as if it hasn't already, is that with everyone blind, HP would become the sole determining factor. We aren't doing ourselves any favors by making more problems than we are fixing. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 872	Posted - 2015.09.16 00:41:00 - [54] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Mex-0 wrote: saxonmish wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I wasn't aware they were being nerfed. Please share your insight with the group They should BE! they can scan a whole enemy team / their equipment and vehicles, Plus Your Whole team can see this... I mean you dont see a rep tool repping the whole team or a nanohive resupplying the whole team so why should 1 piece of equipment be that OP that it can Make it near impossible to flank or do any type of strategic manoeuvring around the enemy team. Scanners are and always will be ( until nerfed ) a ridiculous part of this game. Scanners are part of the game. And at least they aren't as bad as when we had 'scannerinas'. If you limited the scan reveal to the teammates closest to you, (say 15-30 meters) instead of the whole team, I believe it could work. If you're having trouble with people scan-hunting you, why not use your scout? Or run damps on an assault? Instead of trying to nerf the problem, maybe you could try to counter it instead... I dont see why my whole team has to run less hp on their suit because of one person I never said your whole team... I'm only referring to those acting thoroughly butthurt about scanners. HELLO
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 872	Posted - 2015.09.16 00:42:00 - [55] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: saxonmish wrote: Nerf them so bad that they only scan heavies!!!! We dont need wall hacks! Would you be willing to trade your core locus for allotek flux grenades for it? (If flux grenades knocked out enemy huds so they can't see friends or enemy infantry tags?) I know this is a popular idea and has been around as an idea for counters to cloaks, and various other troubleshooting ideasGÇª but I don't think this mechanic should be applied to Flux nades. Flux are perfectly viable as they are, in fact they are my go to for the grenade slot. The addition of disrupting active equipment would likely push them over to the "OP why would you equip anything else" side of things. I have always thought this should be a separate grenade type. EMP grenadeGÇª nocks all Active Modules and Equipment into a cool down cycle. Increase radius by tier. I thought you could see cloaked scouts hit by fluxes anyway? It shows them taking shield damage last time I tried it. HELLO


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