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tester1 tester1
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:33:00 -
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I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì |
rizan baig
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:37:00 -
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Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills.....
Darth-Carbonite for CPM2!
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:41:00 -
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tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì
hmm.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:41:00 -
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I agree the game is better thanks to BPO players pushing forward.
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howard sanchez
Vader's-Fist
The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:42:00 -
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tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì
Hey OP- I'd just like to point out how incredibly convincing you are with your very obvious alt (tester1 please!) and worthless argument with zero logic to support it. Thanks for your input.
Now if you'd said something like, I can't afford to buy blueprints on my main because ccp allows a free market...I would have a shred of sympathy |
ZED Regent
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:48:00 -
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And occasionally you receive a bpo out of a strongbox....
But since you don't favor blueprints...you know wich way to send them.... thanx in advance...
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:52:00 -
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rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills.....
It's true! I try stuff in my apex I never would in a proto suit. The best game of my life was in my Shamen suit. |
TIGER SHARK1501
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:54:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills..... It's true! I try stuff in my apex I never would in a proto suit. The best game of my life was in my Shamen suit.
Plus would you rather fight someone in a BPO suit or a proto suit? |
Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:40:00 -
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rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills.....
No, all I s done is let people like me officer stomp. Cheap weapons=litter care about loss. Which then=me stomping with my Rattati. And then people blame me (and others) of stomping and being the reason people leave. Well, it's also everyone's fault for being a baby and not putting up a fight or competition.
CEO of T-W-L
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:43:00 -
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rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills.....
No, all I s done is let people like me officer stomp. Cheap weapons=litter care about loss. Which then=me stomping with my Rattati. And then people blame me (and others) of stomping and being the reason people leave. Well, it's also everyone's fault for being a baby and not putting up a fight or competition.
CEO of T-W-L
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:54:00 -
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tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì
Wow another one of those closed beta guys.....
Seems everyone is one when in fact there are like 10 left. active. The game was in closed beta for 12 days in January 2013, everyone in the game must have started then....even though their profiles don't say that they have been here that long.
Getting tired of see that to qualify a post.
As a side note, I'm not sure that I like zero risk and high reward of BPOs as well. I run them almost 100% of the time, so I have to admit I like them. I do have to say I am not sure I like that they let me risk nothing while still putting in great numbers. |
Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2015.09.12 20:06:00 -
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rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills.....
The only blueprints I run are skins and krins (hehe I made a rhyme) and I still push the objective and don't give a rats ass about how much suits I lose.
Also I agree with OP. When I started playing in 2013, BPOs were rare and were usually either miltia or basic and more of a visual thing than anything else. APEX suits were okay when they were unmoddable, made them more like premium starter suits rather than a Proto BPO. Now its just an excuse to run proto cheaply.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2015.09.12 20:10:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì Wow another one of those closed beta guys..... Seems everyone is one when in fact there are like 10 left. active. The game was in closed beta for 12 days in January 2013, everyone in the game must have started then....even though their profiles don't say that they have been here that long. Getting tired of see that to qualify a post. As a side note, I'm not sure that I like zero risk and high reward of BPOs as well. I run them almost 100% of the time, so I have to admit I like them. I do have to say I am not sure I like that they let me risk nothing while still putting in great numbers.
If you are checking Dustboard, it is not really a good indication of when someone started playing. Take me for example, I started playing in Jan 2013 on my first toon (Jack O'Reilly) but I spend time on the forums on this toon which was created in August 2013.
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.09.12 20:22:00 -
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tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì
If you're a closed beta vet. Why do you only have 40mill sp? I have almost 30mill and I've only been around for about a year.(40$ put into game for a respect and a bpo logi suit,and a milita weapon bpo.)
U mad because some random in a apex/bpo suit killed you in a officer suit?
Heads up buddy,my apex dragon scout vx.1 will keep pulling in millions of isk and I'll keep doing my crazy stunts without a care.
Also your use of emojis is filthy.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.12 20:27:00 -
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I'd say the lack of meaningful game development sapped every single iota of fun from DUST.
I am a minotaur.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2015.09.12 20:40:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì If you're a closed beta vet. Why do you only have 40mill sp? I have almost 30mill and I've only been around for about a year.(40$ put into game for a respect and a bpo logi suit,and a milita weapon bpo.) U mad because some random in a apex/bpo suit killed you in a officer suit? Heads up buddy,my apex dragon scout vx.1 will keep pulling in millions of isk and I'll keep doing my crazy stunts without a care. Also your use of emojis is filthy.
This toon has been here sine August 2013, my main since January 2013, this toon has 28.5mil and my mian has 15mil. It depends how much you play, if you take a break and all that good sh*t.
Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.09.12 21:01:00 -
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rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills.....
Anecdotal evidence of course but I find players that run Proto gear and more push harder, faster, and better than players who run just BPOs. Yes, BPO-runners take more risks but the quality of those risks is degraded because they know that the risk and loss value isn't nearly as high and thusly take chances that often results in their obliteration.
Whereas a player that knows and truly values the cost of his gear will think before acting, and while some are too risk averse to make a difference the ones who will strategize their actions make the most impact.
That, to me, is what makes the game fun - not a bunch of risk-free cannon fodder storming the gates of a bunch of risk averse megalomaniacs who will never spend the money they're trying to lose.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.12 21:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills..... Anecdotal evidence of course but I find players that run Proto gear and more push harder, faster, and better than players who run just BPOs. Yes, BPO-runners take more risks but the quality of those risks is degraded because they know that the risk and loss value isn't nearly as high and thusly take chances that often results in their obliteration. Whereas a player that knows and truly values the cost of his gear will think before acting, and while some are too risk averse to make a difference the ones who will strategize their actions make the most impact. That, to me, is what makes the game fun - not a bunch of risk-free cannon fodder storming the gates of a bunch of risk averse megalomaniacs who will never spend the money they're trying to lose.
And just like o said above, that's why the stompers have set a line over everyone else. People don't care about dying any more. That's wen the stompers come out and wreck. And then they blame us for stomping. I blame them for not trying
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Wolf revenant
Eternal Beings
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.09.12 21:30:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì Wow another one of those closed beta guys..... Seems everyone is one when in fact there are like 10 left. active. The game was in closed beta for 12 days in January 2013, everyone in the game must have started then....even though their profiles don't say that they have been here that long. Getting tired of see that to qualify a post. As a side note, I'm not sure that I like zero risk and high reward of BPOs as well. I run them almost 100% of the time, so I have to admit I like them. I do have to say I am not sure I like that they let me risk nothing while still putting in great numbers.
I may be misreading what you're saying about when closed beta started...
But I was playing this game in June of 2012 in closed beta. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.09.12 21:31:00 -
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Blueprints made me rich to the point of me not caring if I die.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:24:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills..... Anecdotal evidence of course but I find players that run Proto gear and more push harder, faster, and better than players who run just BPOs. Yes, BPO-runners take more risks but the quality of those risks is degraded because they know that the risk and loss value isn't nearly as high and thusly take chances that often results in their obliteration. Whereas a player that knows and truly values the cost of his gear will think before acting, and while some are too risk averse to make a difference the ones who will strategize their actions make the most impact. That, to me, is what makes the game fun - not a bunch of risk-free cannon fodder storming the gates of a bunch of risk averse megalomaniacs who will never spend the money they're trying to lose.
Yeah, its completely anecdotal....WTF...
Nothing written there even remotely reflects what I have seen. To be honest I see more points taken, more areas held, and more installations hacked in BPO suits than I ever do in proto. All I usually see from proto is slayers try harding or scouts shot gunning. The guys in proto don't risk it to hack a CRU, flip a point, push for a win. The ones not taking a risk are the ones nursing the suits, or worse the ones with so much ISK from CCP screw ups in the past they don't even care about profit anymore. Did you actually read this post before you made it?
Now don't get me wrong, I think the BPOs are a little over the top. I run them 99% of the time now, so I have to say they allow for great numbers with low risk. They do not however get out "qualitied" by the mostly useless proto crowd. It seem to be the other way around.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 06:35:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:
If you're a closed beta vet. Why do you only have 40mill sp? I have almost 30mill and I've only been around for about a year.(40$ put into game for a respect and a bpo logi suit,and a milita weapon bpo.)
Maybe because now you can earn in two matches previous weekly cap (190K) 
QRT30 - open beta vet with +110 mln SP
QRT300 - Amarr
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Cesar Geronimo
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills..... Anecdotal evidence of course but I find players that run Proto gear and more push harder, faster, and better than players who run just BPOs. Yes, BPO-runners take more risks but the quality of those risks is degraded because they know that the risk and loss value isn't nearly as high and thusly take chances that often results in their obliteration. Whereas a player that knows and truly values the cost of his gear will think before acting, and while some are too risk averse to make a difference the ones who will strategize their actions make the most impact. That, to me, is what makes the game fun - not a bunch of risk-free cannon fodder storming the gates of a bunch of risk averse megalomaniacs who will never spend the money they're trying to lose.
I typically find that these players you're referring to are already sitting on hundreds of millions of ISK, so there's no "risk" there either since nothing has any value... |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:30:00 -
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Nonsense! They gave me something to look forward to! I now have the sole goal of creating BPO only fits! Apex don't count, of course.
Scouts United
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Cesar Geronimo
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:32:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills..... No, all I s done is let people like me officer stomp. Cheap weapons=litter care about loss. Which then=me stomping with my Rattati. And then people blame me (and others) of stomping and being the reason people leave. Well, it's also everyone's fault for being a baby and not putting up a fight or competition.
I have never left early from any so-called "officer stomp", aside from the matches that I joined with only 2-3 mins remaining...Officer gear gets sniped just the same as starter fits... |
LHughes
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:38:00 -
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Wolf revenant wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:tester1 tester1 wrote:I've been around since closed beta sitting at 40mill sp and now that the majority of the player population runs blueprint gear this game has lost it's fun =ƒÿò=ƒæÄ
Nerf all the blueprints =ƒÿÇ=ƒæì Wow another one of those closed beta guys..... Seems everyone is one when in fact there are like 10 left. active. The game was in closed beta for 12 days in January 2013, everyone in the game must have started then....even though their profiles don't say that they have been here that long. Getting tired of see that to qualify a post. As a side note, I'm not sure that I like zero risk and high reward of BPOs as well. I run them almost 100% of the time, so I have to admit I like them. I do have to say I am not sure I like that they let me risk nothing while still putting in great numbers. I may be misreading what you're saying about when closed beta started... But I was playing this game in June of 2012 in closed beta.
His grammar is pretty sh*t I gave up trying to understand what he wrote after the second pass. I hope for stereotypes sake he isn't a fat American kid
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2015.09.14 20:42:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:rizan baig wrote:Why exactly has it lost its fun? If anything, zero risk of loss has caused players to do more things that they wouldn't do normally do for fear of losing the suit. You know like push the objective,try to go for revs, reps and kills..... The only blueprints I run are skins and krins (hehe I made a rhyme) and I still push the objective and don't give a rats ass about how much suits I lose. Also I agree with OP. When I started playing in 2013, BPOs were rare and were usually either miltia or basic and more of a visual thing than anything else. APEX suits were okay when they were unmoddable, made them more like premium starter suits rather than a Proto BPO. Now its just an excuse to run proto cheaply.
You can still make a basic suit better than apex. If anything loyalty/apex suits are between basic and advanced. |
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