how does this not count as crying about the game? CPM is part of the game they are players just as you and I are

So, despite 90% of the community here, coming here believing that this is gonna be some other guy crying about the game, sorry guys for the misleading title.

Now what is laughable, you might ask? Some many months ago, a lot of shield players (95% caldari I'm sure) had been asking for a buff to their suits, to their modules, and overall better gameplay balancing so that they can get in and cap objectives just like armor players can. These request threads were coming out the wood work's non-stop, until afterward's a lot of us just pretty much gave up, CCP never gave us ANY confirmation's, no reassurance's, literally about a month after, we decided to give up.

Now the CPM 2 is around and there hasn't been so much as ONE single thread about any shield buff requests, I find that, hilarious at best. We constantly asked, but nothing got done, now the CPM 2 has been chosen, and not a SINGLE thread on the dust forums have been seen regarding shield tech (albeit I'm sure that many of us decided to E-mail the CPM 2).

Now, by no mean's is this an actual complaint and take what you've read (so far) with a grain of salt, I've actually just started using, a basic mennon fit, with a gek and flaylock, with a bunch of armor mod's, and even I can say that, I've gotten 60% better scores with an armor fit, than I have with a shield fit, I mean I'm getting 200k isk per game, with a score of like 12 +/- 4, in terms of scores.

So, pretty much, I never thought I would, BUT I am praising everything Gallente being better than Caldari all round, I can kill players at 50+ meters no prob, even against RR 80% of the time I actually come out on top, the tanking is better, if I need hp I can just drop a compact hive, and get back to the fight quickly, honestly speaking, with an armor amount of 817, I just can't lose.

Only thing I ever die to? Mass driver, HMG, shotgun, and rarely but occasionally scouts with Nova knives, also scrambler rifles, and extremely rarely, any RR variant. I've killed RR user's more than they've killed me, and THEY had the opening in the gun fight, I essentially finished the gun fight.

End. (Once more, take what you've read with a grain of salt, this is just my experience's, both in-game, and forum wise, all compiled into 1 thread)

dude with every iteration of the cpm they become more useless than they already were, whats really going to change at this point

That's not really true though. This is only the third iteration of CPM, and they have not long been in the position. Give them time before passing unnecessary judgement.

Didn't you know? We're supposed to cure everything wrong in DUST in the first month or we aren't doing our jobs!

Superhuman miracles are a job requirement!

Shield suit stuff

So OP, just to be clear, you aren't complaining?

My thoughts on shield tanking? Assuming it should be buffed (a little), I think it should be done in a way that maintains the design distinction from armour tanking, i.e. lower hp, higher regen, cover based. Here are some options.

Buffing base regen stats is bad, as it is too draconian. Suits are already sufficiently differentiated by base stats. We should have a reasonable amount of freedom to fit how we like. Also we need to encourage the fitting of shield regen mods to promote variety and discourage dual tanking or hp stacking. If base stats are too good there is no incentive to fit regen mods. The exception is commandos, who should have their shield regen stats buffed to sentinel levels.

Buffing regulators - Possibly a good idea. However, a delay is necessary as having to take cover to regen is central to the design of shield tanking. Currently it is possible to get very low shield delays by fitting complex regulators. I feel that mlt, std and adv regulators need a buff however.

Buffing extenders. I don't support this. Tanking style should be based upon which regen mods you fit. Stacking hp is a boring meta. Encouraging extender stacking works against the design of shield tanking as a high regen style. It also encourages dual tanking and reduces the efficiency of fitting damage mods, or other high slot modules.

Buffing energisers / rechargers. This would be a good option in my opinion. These are good modules to build a distinctly shield based tank. They have good synergy with extenders and regulators, so discourage dual tanking. They also compete in high slots with extenders and damage mods, so they discourage hp stacking, however they need to be a valuable module to be worthwhile. They also exemplify the design goals of shield tanking, providing high regen at the cost of hp stacking, but still requiring the user to find cover. I feel the current potential regen is not enough for the sacrifices you have to make compared to armour, especially the fact you have to take cover and wait to regen.

Another good (alternative) option would be to nerf armour. I suggest reducing the hp of all plates (including reactive and ferroscale) by 10%. Hp stacking has been the dominant meta for pretty much all of dust. We are moving in the right direction, however hp is still king. Reducing the value of hp mods will in turn increase the value of other mods. Ofcourse, by reducing armour hp, shield tanking automatically becomes a more viable alternative.