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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.01 17:04:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Yet you put noting in the op about where he said to REMOVE SQUADS you only talked about leaving battle which as stated won't fix the problem that's only making it worse. Either squads need to be removed from pubs or we need a mode just for solo players and newbie's. Leave the squads to fw and pc.
the main problem with this is that there are too many people for a single players skill to matter making it hard to do anything when most of your team isn't trying, CS GO takes care of that by having small teams where a single individual can carry the game if need be something like that could be implemented but would not guarantee even fights or stop stomps it just makes it easier for a single skilled player to consistently do well potentially and that doesn't really benefit newbros
something else to consider is a game mode such as acquisition where in clone count or even skill and gear don't matter as much as putting effort would in winning, something like capture the flag where the objective would be something other then holding an objective longer then the other team or getting kills
it needs to be a game mode where newbros that try hard benefit and where giving it your all matters more then kills or gear
the game could be set up so that every time a team gets a flag they have to go into enemy territory (the enemies base where they can spawn) and plant it at a console this would be a hacking mechanism where in the defenders would have time to deny the planting of the flag in this case it would be some sort of bomb device or something of that sort, this makes it so that the defending team should always have the upper hand when defending and lets say one team decides to camp their enemies base well they leave their own base defenseless where the other team could easily go and plant their explosives or virus or whatever flag device makes most sense
there could be a base spawn and two other separate spawns on either side of the base so that no one spot can be camped, the flag carrier should be highlighted for all to see making one of the main points to defend the carriers, multiple flags could be spawned in to make things more dynamic say your team holds two flags you might focus on getting them planted rather then stopping the enemy from getting it planted themselves for a 2:1 trade off
an idea as such would bring more of a dynamic play style wherein players are naturally encouraged to work together and where it matters more to fight as hard as you can to get to the objective with both teams defending and attacking, logis would be essential to keep carriers alive flags dropped by termination of carrier should be de-spawned and spawned back in at a neutral location making it more essential to keep carries alive and work together
that's just one idea I believe the fundamental problem is actually the players themselves that lack any sort of confidence or have too big of an ego to realize they suck and need to get better
I could go on or give more examples or ideas but nothing is guaranteed to work when a lot of the playebase is made up of toxic members of which don't support the game in any positive way, ranging from bitter vets to COD scrubs that cry every time someone kills them and ruins their perfect KD, some people you cant blame for being bitter as being around window lickers can do that to you but if you let that get to you to the point where you start leaving every match or rage at the slightest things you start to become the problem which just adds on and makes things worse IMO
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.01 17:08:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:A simple solution of people leaving battles is a "Concord fine".
You use a leave battle option ? Ok... the concord fine you with 5% of the total of your is... so... newbies with less that 10Millions... will loose only a few isk.. but many people who leave the battle because only wanna get easy battles and got more isk.. well.. will be a direct hit to the pocket. (5% of 50-60M ...)
so what happens if I just move all my isk to another account which can easily trade it back without any tariffs trough the use of a corp wallet? this idea in theory is good but in practice it does nothing, in other words it useless since it wouldn't fix anything
all a player would have to do is stock up for the day move the isk to another character then just keep playing as usual, newbies that dont know how to do that would be the ones getting hurt from it not the isk wh***s
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.01 17:19:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:This solution doesn't remove squads just the main problem with it ( pubs stomping ) while making a mode where solo players/no headset owning people can play on somewhat even terms with the rest of the community. Having to restart the game would discourage a lot of people from "cherry picking" rounds... The time involved in restarting every time would encourage many to at least fight it out or learn to adapt. Those that chose to afk the round will reap minimal if not no reward and affect the round about as much as they usually do anyway
the leave match option isn't the only way to get out of battle, and quitting out of the game doesn't take that long anyway as well as a lot of players already quit out of the game to avoid some frame rate drops so this would probably be more convenient for them in reality while it would make players with genuine reasons to leave a match to be punished unjustly
players that choose to afk and don't get any wp should not receive any rewards to begin with that's one of the things that needs to happen
secondly squads in pubs aren't the problem the problem is the lack of players with the will to fight against their odds, many players simply quit or sit back in the redline with a sniper rifle instead of trying to flank around or give support to those that are trying but yes at times some players get in the way of those that know what they are doing, I would like to see some steps taken to help individuals carry their teams or at least guide them better without having to use scrubscans
players cherry picking matches is a big problem and leaving should not be as easy as simply choosing to leave match, but things like a kick option would be a good addition to remove people that AFK or trolls and team killers, there also needs to be a way to fill up the spots that people leave without forcing players that queue up for a match to get placed in one that's practically over as has happened in the past, my suggestion for this was to give the option under the other contracts tab to be able to join ongoing games on whichever side has less players whether that be the winning or losing side
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