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CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:00:00 -
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About a year ago, I was doing fine. Nothing spectacular, but I'd almost always go positive and my KDR was on an uptick. I'd mostly run a Gal scout with a scramble rifle, then I respecced into Amarr Assault, which I'd run with a scrambler rifle too. Good times.
These days I get my butt handed to me on the regular. I have some okay games, but nothing like a year ago. After returning to the game from a months-long break, I respecced my skills into Min assault, Min scout, and Gal scout with racial weapons (CRs, ARs, SGs, NKs) to mix things up and boy does it feel like a mistake.
Below are my typical fits. Please criticize/advise as you like. I'll take whatever I can get.
Min assault
I run a lulz fit with 3 myos, 2 kincats, 1 cardiac reg, an armor repper, a Krin's damage mod, an a compact nanohive. I use an ACR and SMG for these fits. I play this fit for laughs or getting to higher ground easily.
I also run a frontline fit set up to mostly shield tank with three extenders, a recharger, a ferro plate, a repper, and two shield regs, and a compact nano. On this fit I use a regular CR and SMG.
Min scout
These days I run with 2 myos, a kincat, a cardiac reg, a damp, a cloak, and either an uplink or RE, depending on the situation. I go with an ACR and NKs for offense.
I used to run it tanky-style with extenders and ferros, but do not do this anymore. Should I?
Gal scout
Just started using the Gal scout again for EWAR needs. My first variant on this suit uses 2 precision enhancers, 2 damps, a kincat, a cardiac reg, a cloak, and an uplink. This fit uses a SG and an SMG.
The second version I intended as a flanker, with a myo, a shield extender, a cardiac regulator, two ferros, a repper, and REs. I've been playing around with cloak vs. nanohive--cloak doesn't seem to help this fit much. This fit is equipped with a tactical AR and an SMG.
So, as I said, I am feeling the pain. I tend to have the most luck with the Gal scout and Min frontline fits, but that's not saying much. Since I started using biotics, it's hard for me to use less-mobile fits. I'm hesitant to jump (back?) onto the ScR wagon, and I'm sure I'm doing it at a least partly wrong with the fits I've been running, so any advice is very, very welcome. Thanks.
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Mr Machine Guns
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:03:00 -
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Min assault seems like you have no health at all, use this to build different suits https://zkillboard.com/ship/364021/
Gal scout don't use the precision enhancers, i would get rid of the card reg and put a reactive plate on instead |
CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:10:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Min assault seems like you have no health at all, use this to build different suits https://zkillboard.com/ship/364021/Gal scout don't use the precision enhancers, i would get rid of the card reg and put a reactive plate on instead
Agreed re: the Min assault feeling paper thin.
What would you recommend instead of the PEs? The only reason I have the cardiac regulator is because it seems almost necessary to make the myos workable.
Thanks! |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:25:00 -
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Minscout
I run no HP mods as wellGǪ Naked health. Shield Extenders are unlikely to help you as you will see lots of ScR/AScR out in the field, and they do more damage than the shield extenders will give you health wise. Personally I'd drop the Card as the regen is quick enough for Stamina. Toss on another Kin to get in and out for the knifing before they know you are there, or another Damp to reduce your chances of being scanned.
I also find that the cloak causes more problems than it solves. The delay is to clunky and gets in the way more often than not. It works light for high exposure areas in bright light, but that is not frequent enough to justify it on every fit.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Mr Machine Guns
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:26:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Min assault seems like you have no health at all, use this to build different suits https://zkillboard.com/ship/364021/Gal scout don't use the precision enhancers, i would get rid of the card reg and put a reactive plate on instead Agreed re: the Min assault feeling paper thin. What would you recommend instead of the PEs? The only reason I have the cardiac regulator is because it seems almost necessary to make the myos workable. Thanks!
I just know you should have different scout fits not just one with myrofibs |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:29:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:CRNWLLC wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Min assault seems like you have no health at all, use this to build different suits https://zkillboard.com/ship/364021/Gal scout don't use the precision enhancers, i would get rid of the card reg and put a reactive plate on instead Agreed re: the Min assault feeling paper thin. What would you recommend instead of the PEs? The only reason I have the cardiac regulator is because it seems almost necessary to make the myos workable. Thanks! I just know you should have different scout fits not just one with myrofibs
^This indeed
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:39:00 -
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My best advise to you is to use suits to thier strong points, that is, use them racially. I have all suits before and they are all great when fitted correctly. First off, you need to find what's your best play style.
Short range- gallente
Midrange- minmatar
Long range- caldari and Amarr
Next, find your role
Assault
Commando
Logistics
Scout
Sentinel
Find out both and then choose what's best for you.
Example-
You like long range and sentinel?
You best choice is caldari sentinel- shields are great for long range. Slap on an assault hmg.
You like short range assault? Gallente assault.
Once you know what is best for you, fit them racially. Of course, feel free to use what you want but for max effectiveness, use racially.
Here is the close to perfect racial layout all suits. (Hp and biotics only)
Amarr (slow, tanky, low rep, long endurance)
Light- 1 range amplifier 1 plate, 1 reactive, 1 cardio regulator
Medium- 2 plates, 2 reps, 1 cardio
Heavy- 2 plates, 2 regulators
Caldari (shield tanky, quick shield recharge)
Light- 1 precision, 2 extender, 1 recharger, damp and shield regulator
Medium- 3 extender, 2 recharger, 3 regulators
Heavy- 2 extenders, 1 recharger, (i don't remember caldari heavy layout actually)
Gallente- (armor tanker, speedy, quick armor rep)
Light- 1 Kincat, 1 ferroscale, 1 rep, 1 dampener
Medium- 1 Kincat, 2 ferroscale, 2 reps
Heavy- 1 Kincat, 1 ferroscale, 1 rep
Minmatar- (fast, dual tank, reppy)
Light- 2 extender, 1 energizer, Kincat, ferroscale, rep
Medium- 3 extender, 1 energizer, ferroscale, rep, Kincat, regulator
Heavy- 2 extender, energizer, rep, Kincat.
These are not perfect but they are close. (Gallente is perfect tho. You should fit all you Gallente lows as so).
CEO of T-W-L
Twitter- LD3514
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.08.28 18:18:00 -
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min assault paper thin?
I have a weird fit I use
highs
all complex precision enhancers
weapons 2 creodron ion pistols
nanohive
m1 assault
500 armour
can't remember what setup but with shield it's over 700, with probably 6 proto modules 2 proto sidearms,
on an adv level suit!
or you can dual tank at 700 easily even 800.
if that's paper thin then seriously how much HP do you guys need? |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.28 23:50:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Minscout
I run no HP mods as wellGǪ Naked health. Shield Extenders are unlikely to help you as you will see lots of ScR/AScR out in the field, and they do more damage than the shield extenders will give you health wise. Personally I'd drop the Card as the regen is quick enough for Stamina. Toss on another Kin to get in and out for the knifing before they know you are there, or another Damp to reduce your chances of being scanned.
I also find that the cloak causes more problems than it solves. The delay is to clunky and gets in the way more often than not. It works light for high exposure areas in bright light, but that is not frequent enough to justify it on every fit.
I would advise against nearly everything in that post. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.29 00:00:00 -
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On my most efficient Pub fit, I run all Shield Extenders in my highs, with a Damp, a Kincat and a Ferro in my lows. Using two Kincats won't leave you with much room for other stuff. I find that an ACR works very well on the Minja, because it's good for CQC spray n' pray, and it's low on fitting costs. I run it with Ishukone Nova Knives (a must) and an ARN-18 Cloak Field with either REs or a Scanner. I've been having a lot of success with the Scanner lately. Make sure that Damp is at least Enhanced though, else you'll need to run two.
Don't let anyone shame you for using a Cloak. Don't let anyone tell you that the Cloak is useless. In it's current state, the Cloak takes skill to use effectively, and it really rewards those who know how to use it well.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.08.29 00:02:00 -
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Step one. Stop using blue bottles on everything. Profit.
...
Now.. Step two.
You can try these.
Minmatar Assault :
Complex Extender x2
Complex Blue Bottle
Complex Energizer
Complex Ferroscale
Complex Reapirer
Complex Kincat
Complex Regulator
Guns, nade, eq up to you.
Gallente Scout :
Complex Extender
Complex Precision
Complex Kincat
Complex Cardiac
Complex Damp
Complex Damp / Reactive plate
SG + sidearm ,links + cloak
Minmatar Scout :
Enhanced Extender x3
Complex Kincat
Complex Damp x2
Ishukone Cloak
Flux
Sixkin ACR
Ishukone Knives
Viziam Flux Uplinks
Modern society is lacking in empathy
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.29 00:27:00 -
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about a year ago matchmaking didn't exist and you were likely getting placed with people that were even worse then you are
give it time and eventually your Mu score will get you placed with similar players of your skill level
click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.29 00:30:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:min assault paper thin?
I have a weird fit I use
highs
all complex precision enhancers
weapons 2 creodron ion pistols
nanohive
m1 assault
500 armour
can't remember what setup but with shield it's over 700, with probably 6 proto modules 2 proto sidearms,
on an adv level suit!
or you can dual tank at 700 easily even 800.
if that's paper thin then seriously how much HP do you guys need?
they want 1k plus like on the am assault so they can get a logi to rep them 
click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.08.29 01:35:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Example-
You like long range and sentinel?
Sentinel with a rifle
CEO of Corrosive Synergy
Teacher of FUN, Preacher of LOLz
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.08.29 12:26:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Example-
You like long range and sentinel?
Sentinel with a rifle
Sentinel with ahmg but yeah I sometimes slap on a rail rifle and stack damage to terrorize the enemy.
CEO of T-W-L
Twitter- LD3514
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CommanderBolt
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.29 12:29:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Example-
You like long range and sentinel?
Sentinel with a rifle
I saw one of those guys the other day!
I'm tempted to try it out for the laughs :D and I know I will die horribly.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.08.29 12:58:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Example-
You like long range and sentinel?
Sentinel with a rifle I saw one of those guys the other day! I'm tempted to try it out for the laughs :D and I know I will die horribly.
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You won't die if you have a logi orgy on you . that's easy mode for KD whores in ambush lol
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CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
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Posted - 2015.08.29 14:02:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:about a year ago matchmaking didn't exist and you were likely getting placed with people that were even worse then you are
give it time and eventually your Mu score will get you placed with similar players of your skill level
Even worse than me? Not sure that's possible, but a boy can dream.
Seriously, though--if matchmaking exists now, am I placed with 1337 players because of a diminished player base?
Either way, I really specialized my fits yesterday and had immediate positive results. GalAss for CQC, MinAss for midrange/marksman play, GalScout for radar invisibility, and Minja for mobility and hacking. |
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