DUST Search - Core Greandes

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Starlight Burner wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Nocturnal Soul wrote:

Starlight Burner wrote:

What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target?

Really, I feel that every other grenade lacks the alpha to even matter. 1 sec to grab, 3 sec to cook only for it to barely do anything unless you have a core. So honestly for four+ seconds of no damage at all these lower tier grenades should be better than that.

Only tells part of the story. Core Grenades have the highest splash radius in the game minus a maxxed out Assault Mass Driver. They also have the second highest explosive splash damage, minus a Remote Explosive. They're the best of both worlds apart from those extreme cases which have their own trade-offs (AMD has low damage and flight time, RE has arm time and can't move)

Honestly, the killing potential is way too much for the effective area. I'm of the volition that you should have to choose between high damage and precise aiming or high margin of error and low damage. Having both is just too easy to cop out of a fight and really contradicts the whole 'tactical high ttk team shooter' thing we're going for.

Isn't the low dmg & high radius what the Sleek grenade was for?

Yup. Sleek is low dmg/high radius, packed is high damage/low radius. Then you have the vanilla Locus Grenade which sits squarely in the middle and is obviously the go-to choice.

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Starlight Burner Black Screen TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 440	Posted - 2015.08.28 00:41:00 - [1] - Quote What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.08.28 01:12:00 - [2] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target? Really, I feel that every other grenade lacks the alpha to even matter. 1 sec to grab, 3 sec to cook only for it to barely do anything unless you have a core. So honestly for four+ seconds of no damage at all these lower tier grenades should be better than that. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2015.08.28 01:17:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target? Really, I feel that every other grenade lacks the alpha to even matter. 1 sec to grab, 3 sec to cook only for it to barely do anything unless you have a core. So honestly for four+ seconds of no damage at all these lower tier grenades should be better than that. Only tells part of the story. Core Grenades have the highest splash radius in the game minus a maxxed out Assault Mass Driver. They also have the second highest explosive splash damage, minus a Remote Explosive. They're the best of both worlds apart from those extreme cases which have their own trade-offs (AMD has low damage and flight time, RE has arm time and can't move) Honestly, the killing potential is way too much for the effective area. I'm of the volition that you should have to choose between high damage and precise aiming or high margin of error and low damage. Having both is just too easy to cop out of a fight and really contradicts the whole 'tactical high ttk team shooter' thing we're going for. Thanks for all the support guys, let's fix Dust 514 :D
Starlight Burner Black Screen TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 440	Posted - 2015.08.28 01:23:00 - [4] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target? Really, I feel that every other grenade lacks the alpha to even matter. 1 sec to grab, 3 sec to cook only for it to barely do anything unless you have a core. So honestly for four+ seconds of no damage at all these lower tier grenades should be better than that. Only tells part of the story. Core Grenades have the highest splash radius in the game minus a maxxed out Assault Mass Driver. They also have the second highest explosive splash damage, minus a Remote Explosive. They're the best of both worlds apart from those extreme cases which have their own trade-offs (AMD has low damage and flight time, RE has arm time and can't move) Honestly, the killing potential is way too much for the effective area. I'm of the volition that you should have to choose between high damage and precise aiming or high margin of error and low damage. Having both is just too easy to cop out of a fight and really contradicts the whole 'tactical high ttk team shooter' thing we're going for. Isn't the low dmg & high radius what the Sleek grenade was for? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2015.08.28 01:27:00 - [5] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target? Really, I feel that every other grenade lacks the alpha to even matter. 1 sec to grab, 3 sec to cook only for it to barely do anything unless you have a core. So honestly for four+ seconds of no damage at all these lower tier grenades should be better than that. Only tells part of the story. Core Grenades have the highest splash radius in the game minus a maxxed out Assault Mass Driver. They also have the second highest explosive splash damage, minus a Remote Explosive. They're the best of both worlds apart from those extreme cases which have their own trade-offs (AMD has low damage and flight time, RE has arm time and can't move) Honestly, the killing potential is way too much for the effective area. I'm of the volition that you should have to choose between high damage and precise aiming or high margin of error and low damage. Having both is just too easy to cop out of a fight and really contradicts the whole 'tactical high ttk team shooter' thing we're going for. Isn't the low dmg & high radius what the Sleek grenade was for? Yup. Sleek is low dmg/high radius, packed is high damage/low radius. Then you have the vanilla Locus Grenade which sits squarely in the middle and is obviously the go-to choice. Thanks for all the support guys, let's fix Dust 514 :D
Starlight Burner Black Screen TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 440	Posted - 2015.08.28 02:03:00 - [6] - Quote I still believe the Core is over performing. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.08.28 02:19:00 - [7] - Quote We need to normalize splash radius and adjust damage. Radius: 6m Damage: 400/450/500 Grenades are normalized, STD and adv aren't worthless and proto isn't insta-win. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Starlight Burner Black Screen TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 440	Posted - 2015.08.28 02:21:00 - [8] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: proto isn't insta-win. This is not true. The Core Grenade will kill anything it reaches. It's the cheap way out of a tactical shooter, with it's current stats. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.08.28 02:22:00 - [9] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: proto isn't insta-win. This is not true. The Core Grenade will kill anything it reaches. It's the cheap way out of a tactical shooter, with it's current stats. Reread my post. I'm talking about after the changes I mention. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 599	Posted - 2015.08.28 03:57:00 - [10] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: What is it about Core Grenades that they are the only utility that can be thrown and 1 shot their target? Really, I feel that every other grenade lacks the alpha to even matter. 1 sec to grab, 3 sec to cook only for it to barely do anything unless you have a core. So honestly for four+ seconds of no damage at all these lower tier grenades should be better than that. Only tells part of the story. Core Grenades have the highest splash radius in the game minus a maxxed out Assault Mass Driver. They also have the second highest explosive splash damage, minus a Remote Explosive. They're the best of both worlds apart from those extreme cases which have their own trade-offs (AMD has low damage and flight time, RE has arm time and can't move) Honestly, the killing potential is way too much for the effective area. I'm of the volition that you should have to choose between high damage and precise aiming or high margin of error and low damage. Having both is just too easy to cop out of a fight and really contradicts the whole 'tactical high ttk team shooter' thing we're going for. Isn't the low dmg & high radius what the Sleek grenade was for? Yup. Sleek is low dmg/high radius, packed is high damage/low radius. Then you have the vanilla Locus Grenade which sits squarely in the middle and is obviously the go-to choice. Except cores do the same damage as the packed, but with full radius. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~

TheEnd762 SVER True Blood RUST415 812	Posted - 2015.08.28 12:42:00 - [11] - Quote They all need a fuse reduction too. 2.5 seconds.
Ardos 130297 Prima Gallicus 21	Posted - 2015.08.28 12:57:00 - [12] - Quote I think we can't talk about this because we haven't got the other type of prototype grenade. You do not win a war by making what is just... You win it by making what is necessary... Veteran Closed Beta
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2015.08.28 18:26:00 - [13] - Quote Devadander wrote: Except cores do the same damage as the packed, but with full radius. And yet there aren't constant threads being generated discussing how powerful the Packed Grenades are =P Thanks for all the support guys, let's fix Dust 514 :D
Starlight Burner Black Screen TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 442	Posted - 2015.08.28 22:50:00 - [14] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Devadander wrote: Except cores do the same damage as the packed, but with full radius. And yet there aren't constant threads being generated discussing how powerful the Packed Grenades are =P How is this justification to fixing the issue? No threads means don't fix it? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 600	Posted - 2015.08.29 05:44:00 - [15] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Devadander wrote: Except cores do the same damage as the packed, but with full radius. And yet there aren't constant threads being generated discussing how powerful the Packed Grenades are =P If i run a locus, its a packed. Play some gfw. I'll show you how useful they are. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~


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