Tesfa Alem
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Posted - 2015.08.26 14:47:00 -
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Be careful with your title. Rattati has repeatedly taken the offer of a flight to see what its like for a pilot as a personal insult. Something along the lines of 'I dont need to see what its like to say its balanced.'
It is true that you don't have to use a rail rifle for 6 weeks lets say to see whether its OP or UP.
It is also true that very little pilot community feedback has been taken into account since hotfix delta. Especially compared to PC player feedback, or Scout player feedback.
Also this wonderful thread that pretty much balances swarms with a blue tag has been laying around for 5 months.
There is no reason why half of the issues that concern the dozen or so pilot left remain un adressed.
- Why is the ROF skill an 8x skill after a 75% nerf?
- Why is it more useful to put missiles on an Incubus level 0 rather than 2.5 million SP on a python V?
- After stating pilots should be able to evade swarms, its is still impossible to do. Why has there been no followup?
- After suggesting the return of the LOGI dropship, (much anticiapated b ADS mpilots who want to fly proper support) it has been shelved. What happened?
- Why is it better to fly a militia dropship than a standard one? (both have the same survivability rates vs AV)
- Pilot WP is still abysmally low. What can we do about improving it?
I would love to have a good conversation (not a debate) with Ratatti about all of these things. But I dont see it happening.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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Tesfa Alem
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Posted - 2015.08.26 19:44:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:It just amazes me that I can tell the REAL pilots , their giving you advice and not complaining , the one's complaining are the one's who aren't any good to begin with .
I've noticed some names that I sent flaming in a ball of wreckage .
Not to say that everyone who complains about something is wrong for doing it but in this case , some are just lazy and like they call swarms " easy mode " , that's just what they want when they already have a massive advantage .
If your talking about surviving with a min commando + combat rifle + swarm launcher, its not easy nor as difficult as you make it out to be.
When it comes to AV work, sadly my incubus is my third choice, behind minando + swarms, minass PLC + AV nades. Its much easier, more reliable, and cheaper to get vehicle kills with the swarms and the PLC.
1. Swarms (easist to use, good range, excellent damage application Combat rifle is great back up backup)
2. PLC (Most versatile, deadly vs shield tanks)
3. Incubus (only for chasing down dropships, rail gun constantly misfires, zero smal rail splash means useles against equipment, not chance against double hardened tanks, otherwise its armed with missiles)
4. Assault HMG ( it is still mainly focused on infantry )
5. Forge Gun (just not my style)
For all the talk of bravado, I have heard lots of compliments about really good tankers, really good scouts, assaaults, logis , heavies, forge gunners, pilots, every class and every weapon, but i have never heard 'its insert name here, that guys is a beast with the swarm launcher. I dont know how he does it'
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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Tesfa Alem
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Posted - 2015.08.27 09:34:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:I'm really, really bad when it comes to flying Dropships. I even had training sessions, doing nothing but trying to fly them only to crash, burn and die in the most pathetic ways possible. GM Scotsman, now he could do some good flyin'. Anyhow, my unofficial, personal opinion about ADS is still the same: Assault Dropships were hilariously, ridiculously annoying and resilient. Sure they were relatively rare, but every single game I played where there was 1 or 2 of these beasts, they just dominated the battlefield. Whole squads were herded by them into buildings, below bridges etc. or simply killed on spot. And when me and some others switched to AV, proto or not, our combined effort was only ever enough to drive them off for about half a minute. Then they would be back, full shields and armor, kill a couple AV guys, and just "yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose" when we managed to get another few hits in.
If anyone thinks they were balanced or good as near-invincible godlike shepherds of the skies, I have to respectfully disagree.
Thats alright, because i completly understand your opinion as a ground trooper. People have the idea that Assault dropship pilots are laughing and giggling every time we escape some AV, when we are actually cursing, and sweating out the last 200 or so hitpoints praying another swarm volley we diddn't hear or even register is not on its way.
It been discussed in alot of threads how the perception of either flying being easy mode or swarms being easy mode, is akin to the ewar changes. Either your scanned or not. Little middle ground. Its been the same for Swarms dropship interaction. Either the old afterburners would let you escape 100% of the time or the current swarms will hit you 100% of the time. So its no surprise ground troops thought the ADS was god mode in the old days. What dissapoints me is that its not the olds days anymore, and haven't been for a long time. The god mode perception has been outdated for nearly a year now. No offense, but a build that long ago should not have an impact on dropships in the current build.
Every thing concerning skill was removed from either party. Thats why the thread i posted earlier was so good.
Its a proposal by stefan stahl, to summarize proves lowering the turn radius but increasing the missile speed, a good pilot can (in theory) out maunever swarms, while a good swarmer who could time his missiles right will nail a pilot. If the devs have the resources to take a look at dropships, doing this would introduce skill into the equasion, rather than have either side getting shafted.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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