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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.08.26 15:27:00 -
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Most players that are pilots simply are not that good , so it's easy to complain about getting shot down when your not that good to begin with .
Blame it on the swarms all you like but to me from what I see and have experienced by going against other so called pilots , it's more about bad pilots then it is the mechanics of AV weapons and the only reason that people complain about swarms is that , their the best at negating an area , you can't camp over a swarmer for the most part if their good ( you can if your using missiles ) but you can to forges and that's why you don't hear any forge bashing , couple that with their charge time and it's easy to kill a forger , even more so with missiles .
People that don't use swarms don't realize the bugs that they have . You actually have to look at what you've fired at for the damage to register unless their in motion and trying to evade , I was just in a match where I had to look down while avoiding sniper fire and forge fire as well and firing at a LAV didn't register a single shot all the while firing 3 rounds because I wasn't looking at the vehicle after firing , I wasn't taking a death to kill a LAV , second there's a bug that won't allow you to lock on a vehicle at 70 to 90 m , I keep getting this happening to me and have died a lot from this bug but no one talks about either of these because they just want swarms to get a nerf .
Why increase the lock on time .?. so you can farm swarmer's and have a better chance of killing them while in a ADS , I mean , what other reason would you have to do that ?
I have flown ADS's for the longest and before the changes they were OP with the pilot stacking and the ROF , all this to farm infantry and that's really the main issue , it's not about killing other vehicles because ADS's have zero problems doing that , I use to farm HAV's and even PRO HAV's and when I didn't have to deal with the ghost firing rail bug , I dropped ADS's like a fly swatter swatting flies , it's just the fact that these same players just want to farm infantry and that's why they changed the ADS's as well as HAV's .
Look at the OP's statement about HAV's being fine but ADS's need attention , that's just plain bias , ADS's have to deal with nothing compared to HAV's , proxy mines , packed remotes , assault HMG's , swarms , forges , nova knives and AV grenades as well as PLC's all target HAV's and HAV's have nowhere the maneuverability that ADS's have , ADS's can climb and evade f they use AB's but it seems that most who call themselves pilots can't conceive this , I use to evade swarms using AB's constantly and you can hear them being fired ... if your the only vehicle around and someone is firing swarms , chances are their firing at you , I mean , who else could they target ?
These people just have zero situational awareness as well as their wanting need to farm infantry . Stop trying to use vehicles to farm infantry and kill other vehicles , you would find yourself having far more success if you did that , as well as troop transport .
It's more the mentality of these people who call themselves pilots then it is the weapons that's used against them .
Just because you can't best something or someone , doesn't mean that .. their OP or deserve a nerf , maybe you just need to get better at what you do and think more about how you approach a situation .
I refuse to spend another dime on this game until it gets better but to prove a point , I won't do this because I smashed too many pilots and operators all ready and the point being , these pilots that are complaining will still suck .
They just don't see themselves as the problem .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.08.26 18:13:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:
No, swarmers should not have it as easy as they do now. You know something is wrong when every match there's the one guy that has already pulled out a swarm because he knows he's gonna get some easy mode fun.
Swarms are easy ? Don't tell me you know about it now that I said that , try swarming for a month straight and nothing else , if you roll with a squad , tell no one to help you , you do it alone and see how far you get and if you don't experience some bugs in the process .
If their infantry , maybe they were using swarms for LAV's and HAV's .?. , I mean .. who goes into a game with the intent of using swarms .?. even if you play commando , that's one less gun when you have plenty targeting you during the game from infantry and scouts just looking to kill you while your unaware .
If your not playing a commando then your relying on your sidearm during that time , how helpful and easy is that ?
DS's are no threat for the most part and most of the matches I play where the enemy uses vehicles , people still run around looking dumbfounded doing nothing , not even switching at the storage depot , one of the reason's I specialized in AV .
Somebody has to do it .
Just swarm for a month and tell me later how easy it was .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.08.26 18:30:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:
You have no idea what you talking about. Sure 400m can be reached on an ads. What's your point? 400m is ridiculous that in many cases is back in my own redline. It shouldn't be that easy to force an ADS out of the fight that quickly.
We are not allowed brawl with more than one guy. If there's more than one AVer than most dropships die the moment they start a brawl and they sure wont have time to get away.
I don't know how often you actually try to fight infantry but it's pretty darn frustrating. It's a far cry from battlefield where the pilot has rocket pods at their disposal and everything he shoots at dies real quick.
Here we go again , what's good for the goose is good for the gander . Re-read what you wrote , you are not suppose to farm infantry and that's why people complained about HAV's , so in your mind and the mind of others obviously , you didn't think that effect would trickle down to ADS's .?.did you really think that you wouldn't get the same treatment ?
You are a deterrent to fight against OTHER VEHICLES , just like HAV's ... not to farm infantry , that's why and what you have team mates for , you know , other infantry players ... who can you blame for that .?. why should you be allowed to do it when it was such a big issue for HAV's and ADS's before the changes?
Your not suppose to brawl with infantry , that just doesn't even sound right . How would you brawl with infantry in a ADS anyway .?. are you a bully .?. shouldn't you use a heavy suit if that's the case?
The community fought for the changes , so now you want to be the exception? Again , HAV's have to deal with far more then ADS's have to but all they talk about is how bland their situation is while " pilots " cry about being underpowered as they spam missiles at infantry like a pitching machine .
The only ADS that's anywhere near weak is the Caldari and it can double shield harden while sitting 70 to 80 m over you lobbing missiles with a percentage damage boost from the warbarge and the ADS skill it's self . Swarms are a shield weapon.
Stop trying to brawl with infantry and kill some vehicles .
Might help you , never know .
Brawl with infantry  just doesn't sound right , not at all .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.08.26 18:36:00 -
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It just amazes me that I can tell the REAL pilots , their giving you advice and not complaining , the one's complaining are the one's who aren't any good to begin with .
I've noticed some names that I sent flaming in a ball of wreckage .
Not to say that everyone who complains about something is wrong for doing it but in this case , some are just lazy and like they call swarms " easy mode " , that's just what they want when they already have a massive advantage .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.08.30 15:33:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:I'm really, really bad when it comes to flying Dropships. I even had training sessions, doing nothing but trying to fly them only to crash, burn and die in the most pathetic ways possible. GM Scotsman, now he could do some good flyin'. Anyhow, my unofficial, personal opinion about ADS is still the same: Assault Dropships were hilariously, ridiculously annoying and resilient. Sure they were relatively rare, but every single game I played where there was 1 or 2 of these beasts, they just dominated the battlefield. Whole squads were herded by them into buildings, below bridges etc. or simply killed on spot. And when me and some others switched to AV, proto or not, our combined effort was only ever enough to drive them off for about half a minute. Then they would be back, full shields and armor, kill a couple AV guys, and just "yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose" when we managed to get another few hits in.
If anyone thinks they were balanced or good as near-invincible godlike shepherds of the skies, I have to respectfully disagree.
What this man said .
These people that complain about DS's can't fly out of a barn to begin with and whenever they get hit , the first blow sends them into the ground and they come to the forums and complain about how x or z needs a nerf because it's too powerful .
I've faced many so called " pilots " myself and they just suck , don't know how to steady a DS from a swarm , forge or a PLC blast but these are the critics and those whom you should listen too for balancing issues and they can't even fly ?
The man said it himself and he's spot on in his summery .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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