they nerfed the range so you can't redline snipe anymore

I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!! THEY NERFED EVERYTHING!!!!! And besides... THAT'S WHAT SNIPERS OR BETTER YET ASSAULT DROPSHIPS ARE FREAKING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP NERFING THINGS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T THINK OF SIMPLE EFFECTIVE TACTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And this is not necessarily aimed at you, but you brought it up and it needed to be said.

Says the person who snipes in the redline

No risk, no awesome rewards. Go on the field, be useful. Stop camping in high towers and redlines to get free kills.

Sniper users are already rewarded way too much for their cowardness, they don't need any buff.

Stop using caps boy, you're just making yourself more stupid.

Then stop the BS about the RR. They are rifle with 80m range and a normal HS boost. Sniper rifles have 450m range and a great HS bonus.

And please please don't tell me you'd rather get killed by a camped sniper rifle than a RR.

they nerfed the range so you can't redline snipe anymore

And it didn't actually work. People who sniped from the redline before either still do, or they just afk (making them even LESS helpful). And the ones who still do are even harder to kill now with the range nerf, so it actually HELPED them.

Jenni, you're barking up a tree that legit, veteran snipers like myself have been at for over a year. But no matter how many facts and how much evidence you bring to the table, you're going to get an army of ignorant jerks like Sequal's Back whose tiny minds can't comprehend the team benefits of snipers, and can't even separate the individual concepts of "sniper" and "redline".

To them, the second you say the word "sniper", it sets off an alarm in their head that causes them to bellow "BUT TEH KDR REDLINE CAMPERS!!1! BAWWW!!".

They have no rationale or legitimacy behind their hate, they're just super butthurt because they got killed by someone they didn't have an opportuinty to mow down with their OP scrambler/rail/combat rifle.

Sniper users are already rewarded way too much for their cowardness, they don't need any buff.

I have seen good snipers killing more than 10 and dying less than 3 times in battles and It seems that they don't care about win

I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!! THEY NERFED EVERYTHING!!!!! And besides... THAT'S WHAT SNIPERS OR BETTER YET ASSAULT DROPSHIPS ARE FREAKING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP NERFING THINGS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T THINK OF SIMPLE EFFECTIVE TACTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And this is not necessarily aimed at you, but you brought it up and it needed to be said.

WTH are you even saying? Where did I say that the only reason to have boost is to go on the redline??? HS means HeadShot. SR has big HS bonus, RR normal. What's wrong in this?

Every single sentence you say are so damn stupid.. I don't have the will to answer all of them as it would take me time and effort and you'd need a brain to understand them..

I have seen good snipers killing more than 10 and dying less than 3 times in battles and It seems that they don't care about win and just want to increase their stupid K/D.

Instead of pull the trigger in everything that moves on the field, try to aim for head shots and stop complaining and ask for buffing things.

So let me get this right , snipers are cowards but scouts are not ?

Most of their kills come from them being undetected on the tacnet , from being undetected in a person's LOS using cloaks , from behind using shotgun and nova knives as well as throwing packed remotes as well as using remotes and core grenades , oh and also .. using bio's to reach places that normally they wouldn't be able to , all the while being undetected on a tac , but snipers are the cowards ?

I guess because they kill from close distance , makes them less cowardly huh ?

Hell they even sneak upon snipers and kill them undetected .

Their whole game is killing undetected .

Don't get me started on the attempts to nerf or change the mechanic's of scanners , so that they can have no opposition to their dominance .

To each their own I guess .

The bias is plenty whenever snipers are the topic .

Wonder why this game is in the state it's in , people can't see beyond their own bias and personal agenda .

Doesn't seem like much of a difference if you ask me but it's all about how the job get's done .

Use more caps.

I think CCP responds well when you write in nothing but capital letters.

They certainly don't come off as more whiney and entitled.

I think you need to get off the game for a bit you seem to be getting stressed over a free game

If everyone who used a sniper rifle was good enough to get head shots every time then a lot of people would stop playing dust (it would become a pure sniping game against S rank players that frankly would ruin the game for 90% of it's players).

This post was meant to open up the sniping role a bit more to encourage more combat sniping, counter sniping, and average level snipers being able to enjoy the weapon more.

Stop using caps boy, you're just making yourself more stupid.

Then stop the BS about the RR. They are rifle with 80m range and a normal HS boost. Sniper rifles have 450m range and a great HS bonus.

And please please don't tell me you'd rather get killed by a camped sniper rifle than a RR.

May be the problem is not the sniper rifle itself, but other issues like hit detection, lag, etc or may be a better scope could help.

I do not agree with more damage even a little more because it is possible to get good kills with the standard tier. Also, Calmando already have 2% damage per level without any damage mods.

May be the problem is not the sniper rifle itself, but other issues like hit detection, lag, etc or may be a better scope could help.

I do not agree with more damage even a little more because it is possible to get good kills with the standard tier. Also, Calmando already have 2% damage per level without any damage mods.

I would rather get killed by a sniper than a RR:
1. sniper rifle positions can be avoided in all but a few cases, thus invalidating 1/16 of the enemy players.

2. Rail Rifle users will actually move forward and hack/use equipment/etc.

3. if the sniper keeps killing my idiot teamates they are very easy to kill, due to their static gameplay and pretty easy to read positioning.

I just want to counter any suggestion that the Calmando is anything but trash (outside of the redline), it combines the vulnerability of sniping (sitting there not moving in a crouched position) with high scan profile and slow speed, **** regen, and not very high health. Its absolutely terrible and you'd be better off with a scout suit as a sniper 99 times out of 100 (again unless youre in the redline).

I don't know, I do pretty good with my calmando in battle... but as I pointed out, as a sniper I often don't have any opportunities in which the sniper rifle is a better choice than my rail rifle (I would like to see all primaries see equal opportunities). :(

Your analysis of the rail rifle vs. sniper rifle while on the field is pretty accurate, most maps dont have alot of opportunity to snipe instead of using the rail rifle. Some maps have some positions that can be used by a calmando pretty well to sort of backstop your team using the sniper and rail rifles, even then you are very vulnerable to anyone who decides you are annoying enough to sneak up on and kill.

As far as the Calmando doing pretty well, I can do ok with it too, but if I compare how I do with the Calmando with how I do with the amarr or min assaults, or amarr/min logi, or min/amarr sentinel, or caldari or min scout, min commando, etc. Literally every suit I have is better by a rediculous margin except the caldari assault, which also sucks but is STILL better than the Calmando.

As of right now,sniper rifles are set to be usable on dusts' small maps.

In the future,when battles/maps can be linked,sniper rifles will be adjusted accordingly.

So let me get this right , snipers are cowards but scouts are not ?

Most of their kills come from them being undetected on the tacnet , from being undetected in a person's LOS using cloaks , from behind using shotgun and nova knives as well as throwing packed remotes as well as using remotes and core grenades , oh and also .. using bio's to reach places that normally they wouldn't be able to , all the while being undetected on a tac , but snipers are the cowards ?

I guess because they kill from close distance , makes them less cowardly huh ?

Hell they even sneak upon snipers and kill them undetected .

Their whole game is killing undetected .

Don't get me started on the attempts to nerf or change the mechanic's of scanners , so that they can have no opposition to their dominance .

To each their own I guess .

The bias is plenty whenever snipers are the topic .

Wonder why this game is in the state it's in , people can't see beyond their own bias and personal agenda .

Doesn't seem like much of a difference if you ask me but it's all about how the job get's done .

IF I LIKE SNIPING AND IT IS IN THE GAME THEN IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST A LITTLE FUNCTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO TO IMPROVE THEM, BUT GIVE THEM SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I'm a scout sniper so what am i? Seriously though scouts discuss much more then just gallogi and scanners & cloaks. Take a look at the Babershop & ask around before you go around making blanket statements. Also, non redline scout sniper, i use towers sometimes if i feel like flying.

Looks like someone got killed by scouts a lot.

I love sniping too. I even have a fitting named Lil' Pr*ck because I know that's the first thing that will likely pop into someone's head when they get snipped. But I'm not seeing the problems you are.

The sway doesn't bother me at all, in fact I think it adds the need for patience and forces the sniper to pick positions and targets carefully. That and walking around while aiming down the scope is so unimmersive, the level of sway is necessary.

Maps aren't hindering my ability to snipe, it just means I have to hike further to find a better spot and I always find a good one. The high ground doesn't always provide the best spots, mind you. In some cases, it can screw you.

If well fitted medium and heavy suits weren't able to protect players from at least one body shot, then these suits would be pretty useless. "One shot-one kill" takes a back seat when the target is a walking tank. My tactic is to hit a medium once, a heavy twice, and let my teammates finish them off. I'll happily take assits over kills if it means we win. Sniping is a support role after all. So the rife's power doesn't bother me either.



TL:DR. I adjusted and I'm still a decent sniper.