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Immortal John Ripper wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow.

I'm sure you could look in the Old Testament for some pretty gruesome things that would be lauded as noble acts because they were in the name of God. How then in their inclusion in the bible which purportedly teaches God's message is that not more or less a moral justification for say genocides like those undertaken during the Crusades against the Saracens or the 'enemies of Israel' (Book of Joshua where the sun stood still)?

Also....

Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV

"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly."

The two are from the King James Bible.....

Colossians 4:1 - "Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven."

Titus 2:9-10 - "[Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; "

However with relevance to New Eden what genocide are you speaking of? The Amarr haven't undertaken a deliberate act of genocide against the Minmatar or any enslaved race throughout their histories. They've never had to.

I should have gotten you to write my origin story.
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WyrmHero1945 Finesse Soldiers 553	Posted - 2015.08.18 19:30:00 - [1] - Quote Which countries represent each faction? Imo: Gallente = US Caldari = Japan Amarr = UK Minmatar = Cuba Gallente: Liberalism and democracy. A strong, organized army with a good weapon variety, from shotguns to plasma cannons. Apart from the US which best represent these values, France would be a good contender. Caldari: Capitalism, mega corporations. Their railgun technology is super high tech, from rifles to handguns. Their looks are sleek and classy. Japan is where technology is in constant experimention and growth. Amarr: The Empress! A huge empire/kingdom with highly religious beliefs. Their weapons are very simbolic and are designed to with scriptures and drawing. England was once the strongest empire on Earth, and still to this date lives its legacy. Minmatar: Once slaves to the Amarr they rebelled and created a whole new country. Cuba is similar in this aspect as they got their revolution back in the 50's. Minmatar do more with less, and goes by the saying "if there's duct tape, we can create it". Cuba goes by the same ideal where it's home to a good education system and leader in medicine research and breakthroughs, doing more with less. Share your analogies! PS. I don't live in any of these countries, so I'm not biased. I'm not trying to denigrate any race or nationality.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.08.18 19:42:00 - [2] - Quote Liberalism... Yeah that ain't the US. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Songs of Seraphim Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.18 19:48:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Liberalism... Yeah that ain't the US. My thoughts exactly. Caldari is more of a mesh between Japan and the U.S.. Achura Bloodline State Loyalist Caldari omni-warrior
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.08.18 19:54:00 - [4] - Quote Gallente would be the u.s right after the great depression, if anything were transitioning into the amarr with every corruption official we vote to office Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:08:00 - [5] - Quote Gallente and caldari are correct imo Amarr would be more like old Roman Empire. Right now, maybe Russia because of size and power. As for minmatar, hard to say exactly. There are many countries that could fall under "minmatar" requisite CEO of 48SOF Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
DeadlyAztec11 8	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:15:00 - [6] - Quote Gallente is Western Europe as well as both the West and East Coast's of the U.S.A. The Amarr are the Middle East and Vatican. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:18:00 - [7] - Quote You cant pigeon-hole a single country into each of factions, there's too much involved. Gallente are a nice mix of ancient Greek ideals with modern French and American social aspects, also a mix of those 3 because of their great demonstrations of democracy. Caldari can mostly fit a mix of Imperial Japan, facist Germany and corporate America. "A place for everthing and everything in its place" the ultra efficiency and honor codes of the first two and the strict adherence to meritocracy and profit-maegins of the later. Amarr very well do fit the mark of ancient Rome, with her holdingals, militarism and social arrogance. Add the aspect of a fanatic religion and its pretty par for the course. The Minmatar are usually characterized as a collection of tribes, that more or less dont get along, like tribal Africa and dark age Scandinavia, they band together to push back an outside foe, or a powerful force, but theyre pretty happy being semi-nomadic to themselves. 'As salty as salt can get.' how I describe the dust player base.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:33:00 - [8] - Quote Void Echo wrote: I'm not talking about Christianity, we never condoned slavery or religious death/suicide. Lol. Right... Void Echo wrote: Gallente, even though the United states is the closest match, it's still nowhere near the political and government systems the federation has. America is Cal-Amarr hybrid which markets itself as Gallente Real CPM Platform
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:37:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Gallente and caldari are correct imo Amarr would be more like old Roman Empire. Right now, maybe Russia because of size and power. As for minmatar, hard to say exactly. There are many countries that could fall under "minmatar" requisite I keep thinking Ottoman Empire or perhaps Archemenid Persian Empire for the Amarr. There is so much more to the Amarr than the occasional Latin parallel Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:49:00 - [10] - Quote How is the Caldari Japan? I've always thought we were major corporate guys, seeming more like Corporate America and such. Also considering Caldari have Rails, and the U.S navy has some plans in for rails...(Unless other countries have this as well then My bad) I would guess that Gal and Cal would both be sort of like the US. Since they both were one in the same some time ago and then seperated. Something like how hipsters and whatnot despise corporate guys and whatnot. Or maybe something like class struggle or something like that.(Hipsters being Gal and Corporate guys being Cal) I think of Amar as something of a kind of **** Germany sometimes. Minmatar as the minority of all(Since they are tribes you can just say all minorities that have ever been persecuted) Oh look someone above me said something similar @ Void Echo for beating me to the Punch bowl. Edit: What would the Jove be? "If you got a hankering for a piece of sexy Domi pie come on down to Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time!

Diablo Gamekeeper Corrosive Synergy No Context 577	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:51:00 - [11] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Which countries represent each faction? Imo: Gallente = US Caldari = Japan Amarr = UK Minmatar = Cuba Gallente: Liberalism and democracy. A strong, organized army with a good weapon variety, from shotguns to plasma cannons. Apart from the US which best represent these values, France would be a good contender. Caldari: Capitalism, mega corporations. Their railgun technology is super high tech, from rifles to handguns. Their looks are sleek and classy. Japan is where technology is in constant experimention and growth. Amarr: The Empress! A huge empire/kingdom with highly religious beliefs. Their weapons are very simbolic and are designed to with scriptures and drawing. England was once the strongest empire on Earth, and still to this date lives its legacy. Minmatar: Once slaves to the Amarr they rebelled and created a whole new country. Cuba is similar in this aspect as they got their revolution back in the 50's. Minmatar do more with less, and goes by the saying "if there's duct tape, we can create it". Cuba goes by the same ideal where it's home to a good education system and leader in medicine research and breakthroughs, doing more with less. Share your analogies! PS. I don't live in any of these countries, so I'm not biased. I'm not trying to denigrate any race or nationality. England just no. USA neither. USA needs its own faction cause it takes on both Amarr and Gallente and Caldari and Minmatar. I'm back Rainbow Dash I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.18 22:16:00 - [12] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: How is the Caldari Japan? I've always thought we were major corporate guys, seeming more like Corporate America and such. Also considering Caldari have Rails, and the U.S navy has some plans in for rails...(Unless other countries have this as well then My bad) I would guess that Gal and Cal would both be sort of like the US. Since they both were one in the same some time ago and then seperated. Something like how hipsters and whatnot despise corporate guys and whatnot. Or maybe something like class struggle or something like that.(Hipsters being Gal and Corporate guys being Cal) I think of Amar as something of a kind of ** Germany sometimes. Minmatar as the minority of all(Since they are tribes you can just say all minorities that have ever been persecuted) Oh look someone above me said something similar @ Void Echo for beating me to the Punch bowl. Edit: What would the Jove be? Most people refer to the Caldari as a Japan in Meiji Period where Japan moves from an isolated feudal nation into its industrialised modern form. Prior to this era, if I am not mistaken, Japan had been a country that had isolated itself from the rest of the world and most of the western traders under the orders of the Tokugawa Shogunate. I'm not so sure about the Amarr being Germany....there are far too many inconsistencies between what the Amarr are trying to do and what the ** Party ruling the Germany of the time did. They certainly have some similarities in my mind with organisations in EVE like the Templis Dragonaurs and Provists, organisations of ultra-nationist patriots who at one point ruled the state under Tibus Heth..... but again without many the same negative connotations typically associated with such comparisons. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.08.18 22:43:00 - [15] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Void Echo wrote: I'm not talking about Christianity, we never condoned slavery or religious death/suicide. Lol. Right... Void Echo wrote: Gallente, even though the United states is the closest match, it's still nowhere near the political and government systems the federation has. America is Cal-Amarr hybrid which markets itself as Gallente Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.08.18 22:45:00 - [16] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: How is the Caldari Japan? I've always thought we were major corporate guys, seeming more like Corporate America and such. Also considering Caldari have Rails, and the U.S navy has some plans in for rails...(Unless other countries have this as well then My bad) I would guess that Gal and Cal would both be sort of like the US. Since they both were one in the same some time ago and then seperated. Something like how hipsters and whatnot despise corporate guys and whatnot. Or maybe something like class struggle or something like that.(Hipsters being Gal and Corporate guys being Cal) I think of Amar as something of a kind of **** Germany sometimes. Minmatar as the minority of all(Since they are tribes you can just say all minorities that have ever been persecuted) Oh look someone above me said something similar @ Void Echo for beating me to the Punch bowl. Edit: What would the Jove be? The jove would be the atlantians, mysterious and legendary, though evidence exists proving they were teal, but now it's only a myth Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.18 23:15:00 - [17] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow. I'm sure you could look in the Old Testament for some pretty gruesome things that would be lauded as noble acts because they were in the name of God. How then in their inclusion in the bible which purportedly teaches God's message is that not more or less a moral justification for say genocides like those undertaken during the Crusades against the Saracens or the 'enemies of Israel' (Book of Joshua where the sun stood still)? Also.... Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly." The two are from the King James Bible..... Colossians 4:1 - "Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven." Titus 2:9-10 - "[Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; " However with relevance to New Eden what genocide are you speaking of? The Amarr haven't undertaken a deliberate act of genocide against the Minmatar or any enslaved race throughout their histories. They've never had to. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.08.18 23:24:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow. I'm sure you could look in the Old Testament for some pretty gruesome things that would be lauded as noble acts because they were in the name of God. How then in their inclusion in the bible which purportedly teaches God's message is that not more or less a moral justification for say genocides like those undertaken during the Crusades against the Saracens or the 'enemies of Israel' (Book of Joshua where the sun stood still)? Also.... Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly." The two are from the King James Bible..... Colossians 4:1 - "Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven." Titus 2:9-10 - "[Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; " However with relevance to New Eden what genocide are you speaking of? The Amarr haven't undertaken a deliberate act of genocide against the Minmatar or any enslaved race throughout their histories. They've never had to. One thing that people overlook is that the crusades were retaliation against Muslim invasion in Europe. On the subject of slavery, are you referring to the time of when the old testament was in use or not. Because slavery is condemned by every modern religion except islam. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Immortal John Ripper 28	Posted - 2015.08.18 23:26:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow. I'm sure you could look in the Old Testament for some pretty gruesome things that would be lauded as noble acts because they were in the name of God. How then in their inclusion in the bible which purportedly teaches God's message is that not more or less a moral justification for say genocides like those undertaken during the Crusades against the Saracens or the 'enemies of Israel' (Book of Joshua where the sun stood still)? Also.... Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly." The two are from the King James Bible..... Colossians 4:1 - "Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven." Titus 2:9-10 - "[Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; " However with relevance to New Eden what genocide are you speaking of? The Amarr haven't undertaken a deliberate act of genocide against the Minmatar or any enslaved race throughout their histories. They've never had to. I should have gotten you to write my origin story. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2919929#post2919929 One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass. Prayers4RonerGeneral
General John Ripper 28	Posted - 2015.08.18 23:26:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow. I'm sure you could look in the Old Testament for some pretty gruesome things that would be lauded as noble acts because they were in the name of God. How then in their inclusion in the bible which purportedly teaches God's message is that not more or less a moral justification for say genocides like those undertaken during the Crusades against the Saracens or the 'enemies of Israel' (Book of Joshua where the sun stood still)? Also.... Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly." The two are from the King James Bible..... Colossians 4:1 - "Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven." Titus 2:9-10 - "[Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; " However with relevance to New Eden what genocide are you speaking of? The Amarr haven't undertaken a deliberate act of genocide against the Minmatar or any enslaved race throughout their histories. They've never had to. I should have gotten you to write my origin story. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2919929#post2919929 One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass. Prayers4RonerGeneral

Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.08.18 23:27:00 - [21] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: Point out in the bible anywhere that condones suicide and enslavement/genocide of others because they don't follow. I'm sure you could look in the Old Testament for some pretty gruesome things that would be lauded as noble acts because they were in the name of God. How then in their inclusion in the bible which purportedly teaches God's message is that not more or less a moral justification for say genocides like those undertaken during the Crusades against the Saracens or the 'enemies of Israel' (Book of Joshua where the sun stood still)? Also.... Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly." The two are from the King James Bible..... Colossians 4:1 - "Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven." Titus 2:9-10 - "[Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; " However with relevance to New Eden what genocide are you speaking of? The Amarr haven't undertaken a deliberate act of genocide against the Minmatar or any enslaved race throughout their histories. They've never had to. I should have gotten you to write my origin story. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2919929#post2919929 Im disheartened by the lack of tacos in that story. 'As salty as salt can get.' how I describe the dust player base.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:01:00 - [22] - Quote Void Echo wrote: The amarr killed every matari that resisted and enslaved everyone else. Genocide and slavery go hand in hand. This isn't a moral justification though the term genocide infers that the intent of the act is to target a specific group, ethnic or otherwise, for the purpose of depopulation ( defined as the systematic elimination of a group). As you yourself mentioned the Amarr only killed those who resisted. The fundamental purpose of enslaving large populations by the Amarr was at the time two fold representing the primary means of acquiring new slave stocks and secondly to avoid unnecessary bloodshed in protracted warfare. Modern Amarrian slavery is vastly different though than it was 300 years prior. I've not delved too deeply into lore from the timeline or checked into chronicles that catalogued the Day of Darkness from a personal perspective though I should think that it is pretty clear the Amarr don't want to kill anyone but will if they have to. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:06:00 - [23] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I should have gotten you to write my origin story. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2919929#post2919929 It needs a bit of work...... however I have not forgotten you penchant for Taco's and already in the frame work of the story have included a traditional local delicacy of meat, vegetables, various cheeses and sauces wrapped in flat bread..... sometimes the bread is even fried leaving it a crispy exterior in which the various toppings can be laid. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
MrCriminal High Power Art.of.Death 187	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:13:00 - [24] - Quote Amarr = US Slaves were used. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Click for free stuff
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:26:00 - [25] - Quote MrCriminal High Power wrote: Amarr = US Slaves were used. Not in the same way or for the same purpose. The Amarr are currently in a relatively liberal era and as such enslaving citizens of foreign nations is punishable by law, slaves themselves are protected by harshly enforced laws, and trade between certain parts of the Empire is open and free..... Though its also because of this liberal age we still see continue abuse of slaves by capsuleer and foreign entities. Because slaves are a freely tradeable commodity on the SCC free markets whom they are sold to is not regulated like it is in Amarr space, nor can these individuals purchasing slaves through the open markets be punished by any entity for mistreatment of them. Traditionally only Holder's with the right to rule could own slaves, all others sign contracts with the Holder to effectively borrow them though ultimately the responsibility lies with the Holder and they remain as Holder property until freed by them. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:30:00 - [26] - Quote Stop, stop, stop. You can't compare these intricate unique factions into modern, or past cultures. Just accept them as they are. Sgt Kirk's Propaganda Youtube Channel
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:37:00 - [27] - Quote Nothing justifies slavery, the amarr can't erase their image that is hated until they renounce slavery altogether and forbid it from their religious beliefs Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:38:00 - [28] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Stop, stop, stop. You can't compare these intricate unique factions into modern, or past cultures. Just accept them as they are. Indeed you can't but I think that people often need parallels to draw from who lack a degree of imagination. When I say this I mean the ability to understand a completely fictional culture as something concrete and real not lack of being able to think up clever or unique things. I mean when I think of a faction I can visualise their cities, their people, how the talk, what they would talk about, what they would eat, do for fun, their phrases and idioms, etc. Some people don't do this and like to have something more 'real' to them to draw from. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 8	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:39:00 - [29] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Stop, stop, stop. You can't compare these intricate unique factions into modern, or past cultures. Just accept them as they are. I agree It has been awhile since one of these threads popped upGÇª they never go well Just stop MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.19 00:51:00 - [30] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Nothing justifies slavery, the amarr can't erase their image that is hated until they renounce slavery altogether and forbid it from their religious beliefs Or conversely achieve their immortal destiny and bring all of Mankind under one banner. That would successfully erase that image though the concept of slavery is not universally reviled throughout New Eden, especially the kind practised by the Amarr being fair, moderate, and with a real purpose behind it. OOC I completely agree with you in the concept of owning another person is rather reprehensible though within New Eden's universe I see nothing wrong with it. The idea that the human spirit has an inherent right to freedom is a social construct, albeit a noble one in the grand scheme of things. Slavery to the Amarr is a means to an end, a previously obscure scriptural reference used by the Amarr as a justification for pacification and control of the Udorian City States on Athra after they suddenly found themselves having conquered tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens loyal to a foreign power, now used as a means of cultural exchange and indoctrination. IC I believe its a tool that is necessary for post war/conquest ethnicities but in the more peaceful post Heideran VII age the Amarr currently exist it the practice is flawed and leaves no means for true progression. However that does not means those currently enslaved should all be freed, it inversely means that they need this time to truly accept their place within Amarrian society for the betterment of their children, grandchildren, and wider people as a whole. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.



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