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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:29:00 -
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Where do some people get their "facts"?
I replied to a wtb tiger scout. 38m. Immediately i get a response saying they know for a fact i get them for 20m and i should give them for cost. This is in an open channel btw. I responded with proper facts. I buy and mark up 3mto 5m and sell. I also listed other aspects of my business and explained why i wouldnt sell for 20m. The person became aggitated and said i was harassing them. Another dealer tried to sell them one (40m) and they said theyd have to grind.
At this point im in awe. If they had 20m plus the 15m i gave them why not buy the other guys scout? Maybe they were having isk troubles. Not only did i offer them a job but i sent a tiger scout and said to sell it. My price was cost, 35m. I advised them to use the tiger to make money while selling.
More ranting about how they did not need my isk or help. I just stopped responding as another person became interested in the job. Tyler carl and i chatted about the details of this job oppurtunity and he took an Opus to sell for me.
Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger.
The point is unless you stop by my shop and watch me do business dont assume you know anything about me. I have always looked out for the little guy.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
808
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:31:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: I have always looked out for the little guy.
It's true, he gave me horrible deals, then went to some scrub and offered him better deals.
JUST BECAUSE I'M RICH DOESN'T MEAN I DONT HAVE A HEART <\3 |
Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
995
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:01:00 -
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Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:11:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason.
They do fluctuate. This was a deep seated accusation and i did my best to alleviate the hate. I'm not one of those guys that have always had money. I was flat ass broke a month ago. I started my business with a tash murkon m skin. Now I never have to worry about isk again. And i am trying to help my fellow underdogs.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
996
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:24:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. They do fluctuate. This was a deep seated accusation and i did my best to alleviate the hate. I'm not one of those guys that have always had money. I was flat ass broke a month ago. I started my business with a tash murkon m skin. Now I never have to worry about isk again. And i am trying to help my fellow underdogs.
Fronting APEX suits to people so they can use them to pay you back is a cool business model tho bruh. The flaw i see in that with this environment is there is no way to really force a return of product if the money isn't generated. Maybe a temporary trade of items can be used to protect yourself from getting burned?
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Gydian Dubois
Horizons' Edge No Context
279
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:27:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Where do some people get their "facts"?
I replied to a wtb tiger scout. 38m. Immediately i get a response saying they know for a fact i get them for 20m and i should give them for cost. This is in an open channel btw. I responded with proper facts. I buy and mark up 3mto 5m and sell. I also listed other aspects of my business and explained why i wouldnt sell for 20m. The person became aggitated and said i was harassing them. Another dealer tried to sell them one (40m) and they said theyd have to grind.
At this point im in awe. If they had 20m plus the 15m i gave them why not buy the other guys scout? Maybe they were having isk troubles. Not only did i offer them a job but i sent a tiger scout and said to sell it. My price was cost, 35m. I advised them to use the tiger to make money while selling.
More ranting about how they did not need my isk or help. I just stopped responding as another person became interested in the job. Tyler carl and i chatted about the details of this job oppurtunity and he took an Opus to sell for me.
Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger.
The point is unless you stop by my shop and watch me do business dont assume you know anything about me. I have always looked out for the little guy.
This was in TT wasn't it? Hydra's channel. I have never had a problem with trading with you DS. You're a good guy and a trusted trader who is fair.
Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
558
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:28:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. right ? Ppl in esa were trying to sell me a nomad for 50 mil I was like "i don't have 50 mil but I've got 30 and alot of officer stuff if you're willing" of course the ***** said no and i just ended up buying one with aur cause i had extra. Moral of the story is its not worth 50 mil and its not even worth 58,000 aur.
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:30:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. right ? Ppl in esa were trying to sell me a nomad for 50 mil I was like "i don't have 50 mil but I've got 30 and alot of officer stuff if you're willing" of course the ***** said no and i just ended up buying one with aur cause i had extra. Moral of the story is its not worth 50 mil and its not even worth 58,000 aur.
It is worth 42m here.
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Xeriphem
Glitched Connection
70
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Posted - 2015.08.18 17:43:00 -
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I'll trade ya a Republic Warlord for an Imperial Dominus if ha have one.
I'm WHERE?!
"If you're playing fair, you're not doing it right!" - Jenza Aranda
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 18:23:00 -
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Gydian Dubois wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Where do some people get their "facts"?
I replied to a wtb tiger scout. 38m. Immediately i get a response saying they know for a fact i get them for 20m and i should give them for cost. This is in an open channel btw. I responded with proper facts. I buy and mark up 3mto 5m and sell. I also listed other aspects of my business and explained why i wouldnt sell for 20m. The person became aggitated and said i was harassing them. Another dealer tried to sell them one (40m) and they said theyd have to grind.
At this point im in awe. If they had 20m plus the 15m i gave them why not buy the other guys scout? Maybe they were having isk troubles. Not only did i offer them a job but i sent a tiger scout and said to sell it. My price was cost, 35m. I advised them to use the tiger to make money while selling.
More ranting about how they did not need my isk or help. I just stopped responding as another person became interested in the job. Tyler carl and i chatted about the details of this job oppurtunity and he took an Opus to sell for me.
Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger.
The point is unless you stop by my shop and watch me do business dont assume you know anything about me. I have always looked out for the little guy. This was in TT wasn't it? Hydra's channel. I have never had a problem with trading with you DS. You're a good guy and a trusted trader who is fair.
Yes. Last night. Thanks. Gydeon, i appreciate the business and positive feedback.
Crush them
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 18:25:00 -
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Xeriphem wrote:I'll trade ya a Republic Warlord for an Imperial Dominus if ha have one.
I do. I charge 2m to swap. 2.5 if you need me to find one for a swap.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
558
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Posted - 2015.08.18 18:39:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. right ? Ppl in esa were trying to sell me a nomad for 50 mil I was like "i don't have 50 mil but I've got 30 and alot of officer stuff if you're willing" of course the ***** said no and i just ended up buying one with aur cause i had extra. Moral of the story is its not worth 50 mil and its not even worth 58,000 aur. It is worth 42m here. you mean your selling them for 42 mil? That's still too high I know ppl that sell them for 30 now. Anyway I already have a nomad and really don't need another one what im saying is that 58000 aur is a bit too much even for a bpo if ccp took that extra 8000 aur off and made it cost 50000 itd be a bit more reasonable.
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
644
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Posted - 2015.08.18 18:57:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Where do some people get their "facts"?
Fox News. They are a fact factory. Fact.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy No Context
106
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Posted - 2015.08.18 18:59:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger. You probably lost your scout and the 15 mil, Sol. Meow Meow is a dumbfuck as far as I'm aware. I had the joy of being in a squad with them a few days ago. They literally talked down to me and said the battles we lost were my fault because I took the time to suggest that the squad lead, or anyone else who wanted to take charge, should use their mic to help us coordinate. According to Meow Meow, us 'mic users should just learn how to play the ******* game' and 'we did fine that one match without the squad lead saying a single word'. I'm not surprised in the slightest Meow Meow tried telling you how to run your business and got pissy when you actually explained why they were wrong, rather than just frantically lowering the price to make a sale. |
Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:00:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. right ? Ppl in esa were trying to sell me a nomad for 50 mil I was like "i don't have 50 mil but I've got 30 and alot of officer stuff if you're willing" of course the ***** said no and i just ended up buying one with aur cause i had extra. Moral of the story is its not worth 50 mil and its not even worth 58,000 aur. It is worth 42m here. you mean your selling them for 42 mil? That's still too high I know ppl that sell them for 30 now. Anyway I already have a nomad and really don't need another one what im saying is that 58000 aur is a bit too much even for a bpo if ccp took that extra 8000 aur off and made it cost 50000 itd be a bit more reasonable.
Buy those and sell them to me for 37m. Youd be silly not to.
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Gydian Dubois
Horizons' Edge No Context
280
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:01:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Gydian Dubois wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Where do some people get their "facts"?
I replied to a wtb tiger scout. 38m. Immediately i get a response saying they know for a fact i get them for 20m and i should give them for cost. This is in an open channel btw. I responded with proper facts. I buy and mark up 3mto 5m and sell. I also listed other aspects of my business and explained why i wouldnt sell for 20m. The person became aggitated and said i was harassing them. Another dealer tried to sell them one (40m) and they said theyd have to grind.
At this point im in awe. If they had 20m plus the 15m i gave them why not buy the other guys scout? Maybe they were having isk troubles. Not only did i offer them a job but i sent a tiger scout and said to sell it. My price was cost, 35m. I advised them to use the tiger to make money while selling.
More ranting about how they did not need my isk or help. I just stopped responding as another person became interested in the job. Tyler carl and i chatted about the details of this job oppurtunity and he took an Opus to sell for me.
Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger.
The point is unless you stop by my shop and watch me do business dont assume you know anything about me. I have always looked out for the little guy. This was in TT wasn't it? Hydra's channel. I have never had a problem with trading with you DS. You're a good guy and a trusted trader who is fair. Yes. Last night. Thanks. Gydeon, i appreciate the business and positive feedback. Not a problem man. But it's easier to say due to it being true. Not once have I had a problem with you. Now the other you listed, Tyler Carl, I have. He was easy to get a long with until lately.
Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:06:00 -
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Gydian Dubois wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Gydian Dubois wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Where do some people get their "facts"?
I replied to a wtb tiger scout. 38m. Immediately i get a response saying they know for a fact i get them for 20m and i should give them for cost. This is in an open channel btw. I responded with proper facts. I buy and mark up 3mto 5m and sell. I also listed other aspects of my business and explained why i wouldnt sell for 20m. The person became aggitated and said i was harassing them. Another dealer tried to sell them one (40m) and they said theyd have to grind.
At this point im in awe. If they had 20m plus the 15m i gave them why not buy the other guys scout? Maybe they were having isk troubles. Not only did i offer them a job but i sent a tiger scout and said to sell it. My price was cost, 35m. I advised them to use the tiger to make money while selling.
More ranting about how they did not need my isk or help. I just stopped responding as another person became interested in the job. Tyler carl and i chatted about the details of this job oppurtunity and he took an Opus to sell for me.
Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger.
The point is unless you stop by my shop and watch me do business dont assume you know anything about me. I have always looked out for the little guy. This was in TT wasn't it? Hydra's channel. I have never had a problem with trading with you DS. You're a good guy and a trusted trader who is fair. Yes. Last night. Thanks. Gydeon, i appreciate the business and positive feedback. Not a problem man. But it's easier to say due to it being true. Not once have I had a problem with you. Now the other you listed, Tyler Carl, I have. He was easy to get a long with until lately.
I'll chat with him. I need level headed traders Gydeon. Are you interested?
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:11:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. They do fluctuate. This was a deep seated accusation and i did my best to alleviate the hate. I'm not one of those guys that have always had money. I was flat ass broke a month ago. I started my business with a tash murkon m skin. Now I never have to worry about isk again. And i am trying to help my fellow underdogs. Fronting APEX suits to people so they can use them to pay you back is a cool business model tho bruh. The flaw i see in that with this environment is there is no way to really force a return of product if the money isn't generated. Maybe a temporary trade of items can be used to protect yourself from getting burned?
We need to get people past the fear i of being scammed. for the market to flourish.I am acheiving this. Any who want to help are needed. I will have a safe market, even if i have to build it myself.
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Xeriphem
Glitched Connection
70
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:29:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Xeriphem wrote:I'll trade ya a Republic Warlord for an Imperial Dominus if ha have one. I do. I charge 2m to swap. 2.5 if you need me to find one for a swap. Okay, cool. But 2m for a straight swap? Just to be sure, I'm talking about a Dominus from the LP store, not the aurum APEX version right? Also if you'd rather have something other than a Warlord I can get it for you. Any Republic suit you'd prefer.
I'm WHERE?!
"If you're playing fair, you're not doing it right!" - Jenza Aranda
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:33:00 -
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Xeriphem wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Xeriphem wrote:I'll trade ya a Republic Warlord for an Imperial Dominus if ha have one. I do. I charge 2m to swap. 2.5 if you need me to find one for a swap. Okay, cool. But 2m for a straight swap? Just to be sure, I'm talking about a Dominus from the LP store, not the aurum APEX version right? Also if you'd rather have something other than a Warlord I can get it for you. Any Republic suit you'd prefer.
Either. The warlord is fine. I need the republic warlord. All i have is apexes. 6pm central is when i'll be on next.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 20:15:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Meow meow beanz just left with the scout and the 15m despite their claims of not needing anything. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe i have two employees now. Maybe i just gave away a tiger. You probably lost your scout and the 15 mil, Sol. Meow Meow is a dumbfuck as far as I'm aware. I had the joy of being in a squad with them a few days ago. They literally talked down to me and said the battles we lost were my fault because I took the time to suggest that the squad lead, or anyone else who wanted to take charge, should use their mic to help us coordinate. According to Meow Meow, us 'mic users should just learn how to play the ******* game' and 'we did fine that one match without the squad lead saying a single word'. I'm not surprised in the slightest Meow Meow tried telling you how to run your business and got pissy when you actually explained why they were wrong, rather than just frantically lowering the price to make a sale.
Its ok. If hes legit cool. If he is a mewling little scum thats cool too. It gives me satisfaction to know something that is nothing to me is so valuable to someone that hates me for no reason other than their own delusion.
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howard sanchez
Vader's-Fist
1
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Posted - 2015.08.18 20:22:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. They do fluctuate. This was a deep seated accusation and i did my best to alleviate the hate. I'm not one of those guys that have always had money. I was flat ass broke a month ago. I started my business with a tash murkon m skin. Now I never have to worry about isk again. And i am trying to help my fellow underdogs. There are plenty of things to not love about EVE - but cutthroat marketeering isn't one of them.
Screw that begging self-entitled scrublet. You're the one with the dropsuit for sale. You set the price. If he doesn't want to pay, whatever...free market...
Now figure out a way to sell him a Scout 1-Series non-bpo dropsuit while he happily wins the bargain by sending you 20mil....
It's money! Money matters! When it no longer matters then we're no longer mercs. |
Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 22:01:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Prices fluctuate.
Some people in this game just flat out refuse to move off of certain price points though for whatever reason. They do fluctuate. This was a deep seated accusation and i did my best to alleviate the hate. I'm not one of those guys that have always had money. I was flat ass broke a month ago. I started my business with a tash murkon m skin. Now I never have to worry about isk again. And i am trying to help my fellow underdogs. There are plenty of things to not love about EVE - but cutthroat marketeering isn't one of them. Screw that begging self-entitled scrublet. You're the one with the dropsuit for sale. You set the price. If he doesn't want to pay, whatever...free market... Now figure out a way to sell him a Scout 1-Series non-bpo dropsuit while he happily wins the bargain by sending you 20mil.... It's money! Money matters! When it no longer matters then we're no longer mercs. Mercs. Money. Hmmmm.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
560
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Posted - 2015.08.18 22:02:00 -
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Darken if you have another tiger I'll buy it.
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 22:12:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Darken if you have another tiger I'll buy it. I do. Send me a message in game. Or post in my trade threads. I just wanted to vent a little here and bring attention to the matter at hand.
This situation highlights the desparity between income levels. If you are broke i have work. Dont hate, participate. I have bpos and guns i can start people off with. Trading is immensely satisfying once you get past the bullshit.
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy No Context
854
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Posted - 2015.08.18 22:24:00 -
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apex lp suits cost 10 mill base price plus 100k lp that much LP can be made easily in one day of grinding if you have stacked boosters, keeping that in mind the amount of matches it takes is about 20 or so more or less if you were to participate in 20 pubs and do well in each say you get an average of 300k then 20 matches would be a base of about 6 mill making the overall about 16 mill in terms of pure grind cost but taking into account the boosters that cost aur you double the price to make a reasonable profit on your money spent
so 30 mill is around the least a suit would be worth even in AUR cost its about the same and the highest worth would be about 50 mill due to popularity and supply/demand
but there are people that have absurd amounts of LP from grinding for 1 year+ meaning if they wanted to they could sell for far less but doubtfully no less then 10 mill as it cost that much just to purchase apart from the LP
the facts are in the isk to aur conversions as well as whatever a supplier chooses to offer depending on competition
if someone is offering the only cal scout apex suit and no one else is selling it then the vendor could mark the price at the highest or higher then that given that someone would be willing to pay as much
click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
513
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Posted - 2015.08.18 22:27:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Darken-Sol wrote: I have always looked out for the little guy.
It's true, he gave me horrible deals, then went to some scrub and offered him better deals. JUST BECAUSE I'M RICH DOESN'T MEAN I DONT HAVE A HEART <\3
Do cats have hearts? Yeah they do. But they're all stone cold. I want a apex scout too.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
560
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Posted - 2015.08.18 22:30:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Darken if you have another tiger I'll buy it. I do. Send me a message in game. Or post in my trade threads. I just wanted to vent a little here and bring attention to the matter at hand. This situation highlights the desparity between income levels. If you are broke i have work. Dont hate, participate. I have bpos and guns i can start people off with. Trading is immensely satisfying once you get past the bullshit. sent u a mssg what's your time zone and play log on times so we can meet up. I'm on right now but ill be off before 10pm central time.
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens Imperium Eden
296
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Posted - 2015.08.19 11:20:00 -
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you say you're selling for 38 mill, as soon as this guy says 'i know for a fact blah blah blah' you should of responded with 'its now 40 mill and tomporrow its 50'
'The shadows betray you because they belong to me,'
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 11:40:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:you say you're selling for 38 mill, as soon as this guy says 'i know for a fact blah blah blah' you should of responded with 'its now 40 mill and tomporrow its 50'
I usually dont hold on to suits for a day.
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