I dont find tanks op, Infact i thrive off killing players that think there op in their proto tanks, They aint got nothing on my PLC and lia dias, oh a speed booster is the best they can do run and hide.



I agree with you Holy.

And yet HAV use is boring, requires less skill than ever, and HAV can barely be categorized as Tanks at all.

i'll take the op's challenge...
i do fine in basic and adv tanks unless i'm going against proto god mobiles.
join radio warravens and call me one in.
most tanks i kill because they get cocky and try to kill me with a lrg rail turret point blank.
anytime i get hit by more than one aver i just flip switches, relocate, recharge mods and start again.
same with dropships. mostly... just dont be stubborn and accept that retreat or destruction are sometimes ur only options.

I use and have used all forms of HAV for quite some time now. 1.7 screwed up tanking and broke Armour HAV so fundamentally by instituting their primary repair values as a passive module with active level per second pulses with no down time and 0 upkeep required.

Hardener modules compound the issues significantly with periods of massive damage mitigation potential against time where the vehicle can barely function in a meaningful role until modules have recharged.

Moreover we have railguns that don't have explosive charge, .50 calibre plasma machine guns, and wierd arse direct fire rocket salvos that make literally no sense and Tank main guns.

Hey good sir, when you HAVs go faster than an LAV due to a single module, I find it hilariously OP. Most people don't say anything about them Nitro boost ya'll have, but I rank Nitro boost as one of the reasons tanks are OP. 4k+ hp going around as fast or faster than an LAV... Sir this is wrong. Can't get off my entire collection of goodies because the moment a tank hits something(a ******* pebble) they go dual harderners and turbo charge their way into the red... Not to mention ya'll rep fast as ****, if 3 lai dais, and a proto PLC don't kill you in less than second you're back to full health in less than 5 seconds. Have a nice day

They go pretty fast

Pretty sure they don't and you are making the over statement of the century..... I'll run some drag race tests later this evening. I'm pretty sure you are full of **** though.

So if live for 3 games without dying you are wrong?

By three rounds do you mean three matches? If so, this is the problem, to a tanker surving three matches without dying because of your fit seems reasonable but it is the very definition of OP. I can understand the tankers view though that they will go ISK negative even if they can do that. The problem then is that vehicles are still too expensive. I think the militia HAV are where we should be, they are cheap but die easily, a good tanker can still wreak havoc on everything but another tank.

Saying because a tank survives three rounds it is OP is absurd.

What if the tank never leaves the redline, never shoots anything, just rolls back and forth to avoid getting kicked and kills a couple of turrets to get his afk bonus?

What if a tank uses terrain and all of his modules to reduce the enemy AV effectiveness and play smart, are they allowed to survive in that situation?

I can go days without losing a tank, because I don't just crash it into a horde of infantry until I explode. Playing smart as a tanker means not losing the whip.

Just because this may be true, doesn't mean there aren't problems with the HAV balance