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Breakin Stuff wrote:

Toobar Zoobar wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Toobar Zoobar wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

TL;DR: CCP make vehicles godmode please. It's unfair that infantry plebes can gang up and kill me.

Yay here come the AV trolls with there infallible, impossible to argue with arguments. Thank you for trying the maliciously hijack my thread, again.

You're welcome.

I have absolutely no respect for the arguments placed in the OP.

"ZOMG TEH INFANTREEZ KAN GANG UP AND KILLZ MAI TANK! IZ UNFAIR THAT THEY CAN GANG UP 6 TO 1 AND ABSOLUTELY BUTCHER MEEEEEEE"

I can see you have no respect. Respect is an alien concept to you, obviously.

You admitted yourself you didn't even read it.

I read it. Everything you posted there, when added up = Vehicle easy mode.

Your ideas are the opposite of balance, and geared to making sure that vehicle play is fun for the drivers... and no one else.

That's quite bluntly a list of changes I'd expect to see spkr4thedead to put forth as reasonable.

Congratulations, the salty tears from your OP will sustain me for months.


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Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 123	Posted - 2015.08.12 19:54:00 - [1] - Quote ...for making vehicle gameplay the most frustrating, enraging and dissatisfying gameplay experience I have ever encountered. In no other game can you die so cheaply, so easily and so pointlessly as in dust 51-bloody-4. Land your python a tad to roughly. DEAD Get rammed by a bumper gorgon because he didn't show up on the mini map in time. DEAD. Open your map whilst in a caldari tank . Oh wow iv'e passed through the ground! DEAD. Get ganked by two minmandos who fill the local air space with loads of little missiles that may or may not be invisible for some reason and that I also can't hit cause dat strafing. DEAD. Get shot out of the sky like a fish in a barrel by a dude with a forge gun. DEAD. Get hit by swarms whilst tilting forward in dropship. Gets flipped upside down then hits into ground. DEAD. Tries to reverse out of unlikely to survive in area. Can't see where i'm going because of turret rotation and gets stuck on corner of a building and then can't tank the swarms even though i'm a tank and DEAD. Drive a caldari tank down a hill and explode. (this really is a thing people). DEAD. Drive LAV past swarmer. DEAD. Tap tank with LAV. DEAD. Tap dropship with ADS. DEAD. Fly into path of MCC missile that was just to the left or right of your view. DEAD. None rendering ganking swarmers with none rendering swarms + no god damn lock on warning. DEAD. The redline seems much more constricting these days. Gets tank stuck in redline. DEAD. And for all this dying what would the rewards be? Perhaps a good looking enough K/D, but not a very healthy wallet. More than likely due to unsustainable expenditure for then reasons listed above. (And screw K/D anyway). A tanker is pretty weak really. Without proper infantry support to distract any minmando looking to ruin your day more than likely you wont get very many kills. An infantry that knows you're pointing at them is, presuming their somewhat intelligent , going to probably not die. I mean if there's an AVer on a rooftop and I'm in a tank chances are I'm not gonna kill them unless I get a lucky hit with a rail turret. Frustrating as hell. I have been playing this game since closed beta. Since Mordu's trials. And there have been times when vehicles where fun an enjoyable to pilot. When AV wasn't over powered like it is now. And it is overpowered. Why on earth was the ADS nerfed and swarms buffed in hotfix delta Rattati? What were you thinking? Was it the K/D statistics? You NEVER balance something on raw statistics. That's also why assault Scrambler rifles are now overpowered. I've been using those guns since before they got over-buffed. My proposals Lock-on warnings for swarms. 2 volleys for swarms. ( In other games you have just 1 shot per clip ) Reduce speed of swarms (just a little). Reduce travel distance for swarms. ( There's no reason they should force you back into your own redline. ) Reduce recharge time of AB to pre hot-fix delta. As it currently stands if prevents ADS pilots from playing aggressively. Bring back ALL the old vehicles with most of the old stats. Remove the PRO and ADV tier tanks. Remove Marduk and Gladius. Allow us to remove small turrets on maddys and gunlogis again. Double dropship RoF bonuses. Bring back most of the old vehicle skill tree and old modules. Make it so that heavy weapons can only look up 60 degrees. Otherwise the forgegunners have an unfair advantage over ADS's. Allow for a third small turret slot on HAVs. One that the pilot controls and can change to by pressing X. Remove vehicle collision damage cuz it's stupid... really stupid. When I open the killboard I don't want the the map opening in the background and I don't want my cal tank falling through the ground when I open the map. Now CCP if you aren't able to write the code for what has been proposed here then you shouldn't be in the game development profession. I'm aware that you struggle to sow some actual quality onto your efforts with this game but what I'm proposing here ain't all that hard to do. Trust me I know. It's just a case of reusing assets you've already created that are probably lying around on a hard drive somewhere in your offices. So if you could just get up of your lazy arses and do exactly what I'm saying here then the game could be super awesome by next month. Thank you. P.S. To you AV fanatics. Go play CoD. Yeah take that. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 128	Posted - 2015.08.13 15:49:00 - [2] - Quote abdullah muzaffar wrote: #3 applies to all vehicles, and only happens inside certain sockets. Have you ever flied a DS underground before? is it possible? that would actually be cool. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 130	Posted - 2015.08.13 17:40:00 - [3] - Quote Balistyc Farshot wrote: The key to making vehicles still note worthy on a field of battle is to be the dmg sponge. I run a tank with stacks of armor and I use my logi. The other two seats of the tank are occupied by slayers. I jump behind my tank and rep tool that beast while the two gunners pop in and out killing everyone around them. Try it! The only danger is me getting shot. Sometimes I bring in my AHMG fitting and lay down some death too. Then another tank shows up and one of us jumps in and rail gun exchanges shots and the other two pound that tank. AV shows up and my assault buddy eats that minmando with a SCR or RR. Learn to be more than a one man killing spree and vehicles still have a role. I do wish that LAVs weren't made of paper though. I drop my blue print in to lure people out because driving it is deadly. How am I supposed to do that when in a dropship? My frustration when in a tank is not so much the swarms themselves, rather the ineffectiveness of the tank cannon on strafing infantry. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2015.08.14 15:53:00 - [4] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: TL;DR: CCP make vehicles godmode please. It's unfair that infantry plebes can gang up and kill me. Yay here come the AV trolls with there infallible, impossible to argue with arguments. Thank you for trying the maliciously hijack my thread, again. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2015.08.14 15:58:00 - [5] - Quote Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: abdullah muzaffar wrote: #3 applies to all vehicles, and only happens inside certain sockets. Have you ever flied a DS underground before? is it possible? that would actually be cool. the fact that you asked that let me know all i need to know about your piloting skills All you need to know. Right. Right. IDK, you sound either stupid or stoned to me. Look you either come here and lay down a logical argument or GTFO. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:03:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: TL;DR: CCP make vehicles godmode please. It's unfair that infantry plebes can gang up and kill me. Yay here come the AV trolls with there infallible, impossible to argue with arguments. Thank you for trying the maliciously hijack my thread, again. You're welcome. I have absolutely no respect for the arguments placed in the OP. "ZOMG TEH INFANTREEZ KAN GANG UP AND KILLZ MAI TANK! IZ UNFAIR THAT THEY CAN GANG UP 6 TO 1 AND ABSOLUTELY BUTCHER MEEEEEEE" I can see you have no respect. Respect is an alien concept to you, obviously. You admitted yourself you didn't even read it. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:17:00 - [7] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: TL;DR: CCP make vehicles godmode please. It's unfair that infantry plebes can gang up and kill me. Yay here come the AV trolls with there infallible, impossible to argue with arguments. Thank you for trying the maliciously hijack my thread, again. You're welcome. I have absolutely no respect for the arguments placed in the OP. "ZOMG TEH INFANTREEZ KAN GANG UP AND KILLZ MAI TANK! IZ UNFAIR THAT THEY CAN GANG UP 6 TO 1 AND ABSOLUTELY BUTCHER MEEEEEEE" I can see you have no respect. Respect is an alien concept to you, obviously. You admitted yourself you didn't even read it. I read it. Everything you posted there, when added up = Vehicle easy mode. Your ideas are the opposite of balance, and geared to making sure that vehicle play is fun for the drivers... and no one else. That's quite bluntly a list of changes I'd expect to see spkr4thedead to put forth as reasonable. Congratulations, the salty tears from your OP will sustain me for months. Most of what I complained about were glitches. Swarms not rendering. AVers not rendering. Vehicles exploding for no reason. Much of what I proposed was getting dust on par with other games such as battlefield in terms of vehicle AV balance. Lock on warnings. Reduced clip size for rocket launchers (swarms). More effective AI weapons. The mounted HMG in battlefield is like an automatic sniper. I proposed giving the pilot the option the switch the a smaller more suitable weapon to take out infantry with without switching seat, like in battlefield. All of what I proposed was fair and reasonable. If you are unable to see that, there is something wrong with you. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:29:00 - [8] - Quote Blue Cannibal wrote: If at first you don't succeed try again but maybe you should try a different way.... I love when the same guy drops a vehicle same place, same kind, same everthing... and guess what... you better believe that vehicle is gonna go up in smoke... again!!! Preferable with the guy in it but you cant be too choosy.... Also there is some awesome tankers and pilots out there and I would totally love to give you guys that are a quick shout out and your due cuz this guy just aint up to par with ya! You will get there blueberry you will get there just keep skilling up and learning from your mistakes. You have no experience in vehicles that is very obvious. Don't. Even. Try. Mate. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:34:00 - [9] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: someone said it best in another vehicle thread. the people crying the loudest about HAVs being somehow underpowered are by and large confirmed being among the worst tank drivers in the game. Further proof you didn't read or understand what is being said here. Most of the complaints are related to DropShips and how underpowered the ADS is. The complains about tanks are more to do with glitches and lack of tech 2 variants. Go back to school and brush up on your reading skills. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:40:00 - [10] - Quote ... Specialization: Making typo's.

Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2015.08.14 17:14:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: more not moronic. And you were bagging on my reading comprehension? If this little gem is any example, you need to learn how to write. That's not reading comprehension. That's a typo and that's my specialization as already stated. I was gonna say more civil, but realizing that would be too much to ask I then changed it to 'not moronic' and forgot to take out the more. Whats more that's a you off on a tangent. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2015.08.14 17:20:00 - [12] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: more not moronic. And you were bagging on my reading comprehension? If this little gem is any example, you need to learn how to write. That's not reading comprehension. That's a typo and that's my specialization as already stated. Whats more that's a you off on a tangent. No toobar, this is me feeding a troll. It's fun. So, credibility is not what you're after then. Specialization: Making typo's.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2015.08.14 17:32:00 - [13] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: someone said it best in another vehicle thread. the people crying the loudest about HAVs being somehow underpowered are by and large confirmed being among the worst tank drivers in the game. Further proof you didn't read or understand what is being said here. Most of the complaints are related to DropShips and how underpowered the ADS is. The complains about tanks are more to do with glitches and lack of tech 2 variants. Go back to school and brush up on your reading skills. let's see... limit forge guns to a 60 degree upward angle, I believe you said? My reading comprehension is fcking amazing. You'd be absolutely shocked how much information I can parse all at once. I have no real issue with your glitch complaints, but your suggestions for AV balance are hilariously stupid. But you can keep flogging the idea that I'm an idiot all you want. No one but the vehicle community buys it. Yeah stupid. Totally stupid. WHAT WAS I FCKING THINKING. Lets let swarms have a 10 volley mag and let them fire at 200RPM. Sure. Oh lets also allow them lock on to 5 vehicles at once and travel at 1000MPH and have a lock on ranged of a million miles YEAH. BALANCE!!!! I'm done with you. Specialization: Making typo's.