laser weaponry in EvE is very strong as the ScR is but has terrible range

very strong as the ScR is but has terrible range

terrible range

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Terrible Range
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In all honesty though, Pulse lasers and Beam Lasers occupy the middle of the ground range (with their crystals taking them to the EXTREME!)

compared to rails and yes blasters are meant to be close in range but it is dully noted that you left out the damge it does

the point I was trying to make is that each type of weapon has its short and long range variants in eve, something that does not seem to be correctly represented in dust especially not with damge to range ratio, if the laser rifle is meant to be the one with better range it makes sense to have low damge as it currently does sure it may gain more potential as it heats up but so does the risk of overheating it, while the ScR does not have to worry too much about anything and it has far more damge then the AR and RR at any range in order for it to remain the hard hitter that it is I suggested bringing down the range to accurately represent its damge potential to range ratio

you only provided one image of a blaster but you do not however consider that ammunition in eve plays a role in the ranges as well as other factors which do not currently exist in dust

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Weapons_guide#Turrets - this link can help explain what I mean and accurately describe each turret and what they are capable of as well as explaining how different ammo types affects each weapon

here's the thing, I've known for a while that the RR is UP and that the ScR is OP compared to it and even compared to other weapons

my main concern is that there is no reason to use anything else when the ScR even with its profile does just as much damage to armor as a combat rifle and has better range, it even beats out the RR at any range under 150m and even further but at that point damage becomes almost negligible

even after the nerf the ScR was leaft balanced almost as an armor weapon rather then the shiled weapon it is supposed to be, the fact that the ScR can do over 200% damge to shields with a head shot and even more with a charged shot is unfathomable to me with shields already low Ehp values, and even if they were to stack armor they would still lack enough hp to survive the follow up rounds

here's what I would like to be done, I'd like the ScR to be brought in line in terms of range, laser weaponry in EvE is very strong as the ScR is but has terrible range so make the optimal closer to the AR or perhaps even worse to give reason to use the AR rather then the ScR when up against shields, in fact I would rather see the AR be given a better optimal and make the current optimal that of the ScR, the amarr already have a great long range weapon the Laser Rifle give the AR an optimal of about 55m less then a combat rifle but much better compared to its current optimal this would also bring some parity to light weapons each having a respective range thats about 10m away from one another

I did no however come here to discuss balance I came here to discuss why so many people are focused on defending so many things that clearly need to be looked at while asking to nerf things that are working perfectly fine, not only that but there are things that need clear and evident help and I don't see many buff threads other then to things that really don't even need it mainly the AR I see too many threads about buffing every aspect of it that doesn't even make sense balance wise

I would like to encourage you all to really take a look at each weapon and instead of asking for a nerf or a buff to it to look at what other weapons lack or have that make them better or worse, then from there give feedback to CCP that makes sense and can be easily implemented to bring them in line and up to par with one another

consider this tho if you want more power you have to be willing to give up range and if you want more range you must be willing to give up power, same with fire rate and damge per shot, and same for damge profiles. you give and you take its not a one way street each weapon must have its strengths and weaknesses for example the RR is already relatively weak in terms of damge and fire rate but the one thing that its supposed to be good at which is range is severely lacking due to high unpredictable uncontrollable kick an easy solution is to keep the kick for hip fire but severely reduce it or make it vertical rather then sporadic while aiming

TL:DR stop asking for buffs/nerfs and look at all the stats of a weapon to see what really needs to be done to bring parity to the battlefield

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The rail rifle isn't bad but the scrambler is op. And so is the arr a bit. But in terms of range. They do the damage and stiff they should do and is fine. But they are op in close ranges which shouldn't be the case. That's the reason why the vanilla rail rifle isn't used as much. Because of its kick and because people like cqc. The rail rifle is perfectly balanced right now. The assault rail rifle is almost ok. It has to low kick but to high range for it being an assault varient. While the rail rifle is long range, the assaults rail should be more of a mid to mid-high range. It should not be better than the assault rifle in cqc Burgos is why people say it's op. What it needs is more kick. Less than the rail rifle so that it's still considered assault but more to not outclass the assault rifle in its own role. The scrambler rifle is the same as the assault rail rifle. Good at all ranges. It does well at long but shouldn't do good at close range. Both the assault and the vanilla scramblers also need more kick/dispersion enough to still be good at long range but not outclass the assault rifle in cqc.

Last is the combat rifle. The vanilla combat rifle is in a good spot as its a burst weapon meaning it's all controlled fire so it should do well in any range even cqc. It's the armor cqc weapon and so is the assault combat rifle.

It's only the assault rail rifle and the scramblers that need change.

The rifles are all fine.

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There's a huge amount of text I won't even bother reading.
Scrambler is fine,just turbo control scrubs and triple damage modded viziams.
Rail rifles are fine. It's called burst firing it for a reason.

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The Scrambler Rifle is not OP, it's equal with the Combat Rifle in terms of versatility. The Rail Rifle isn't bad, it's just suffering deeply from the bug that makes it not do damage. The Standard AR needs to be on par with the other weapons.