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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.08.09 20:02:00 -
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Sure I'm sure tankers would blow a gasket getting punched to death by a jumpy commando fit but still. Your out of ammo and a tank is trying to run you over and you punch it. Despite your melee attack doing 100+ dmg it does nothing to the tank at all. You can knife a tank to death, you can shoot it with a sub machine gun (if it's a shield tank and lost shields at least), heck some times they blow up from a flux grenade for reasons I can't understand (even the kill feed says flux grenade).
But punching does no dmg to vehicles or installations....
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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zazu 51
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.09 20:08:00 -
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I wanna know why your not allowed to punch a baby? I mean really? They can be so damn annoying sometimes  |
Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
389
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Posted - 2015.08.09 20:13:00 -
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zazu 51 wrote:I wanna know why your not allowed to punch a baby? I mean really? They can be so damn annoying sometimes
You can punch babies. Having kids is a great stress reducer.
For example...dust aggrivates me...I punch one of my kids. Boom I instantly feel better.
We should be able to fist vehicles especially if nova knives can do damage. |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.09 20:15:00 -
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Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why.
CEO of 48SOF
Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
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Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
389
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Posted - 2015.08.09 20:29:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why.
Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ |
Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
539
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Posted - 2015.08.09 20:47:00 -
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I see no problem being able to melee vehicles there's sometimes when I have no red to throw so why can't my scout hit a lav to blow it up? Even if commandos hit the tank with that much damage it won't matter they're still faster than the comandos with swarms or plcs just don't let one get on you.
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
179
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Posted - 2015.08.09 21:28:00 -
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The only real problem I think vs vehicles would be just how fast you can throw a punch. To counter that all they would have to do is raise the stamina cost of punching, or slow down how fast you can pull them off in a row. That said yeah even the top o the line commando suit does less than proto AV grenades. Not to mention the way the road kill mechanics work it's iffy getting that close to tank to begin with.
Some times a near full speed vehicle clips you and you just take dmg, other times it basically sits on you and you die from an immobile object. DS love to do this, basically land on you and nudge you to death in a thousand small hits.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.09 21:30:00 -
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because nova knives were implemented due to the fact the charge could melt the armor and shields
a simple strong punch to the back of a tank wouldnt do much other than hurt yourself or some loose wires hanging out
at the most you could pop open a single panel with a massive punch
18.8m SP...
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NINEinch WEAPON
WarRavens
169
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Posted - 2015.08.09 21:34:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ
Hep metabolic enhancers
"winning" an inch at a time
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
20
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Posted - 2015.08.09 21:46:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Sure I'm sure tankers would blow a gasket getting punched to death by a jumpy commando fit but still. Your out of ammo and a tank is trying to run you over and you punch it. Despite your melee attack doing 100+ dmg it does nothing to the tank at all. You can knife a tank to death, you can shoot it with a sub machine gun (if it's a shield tank and lost shields at least), heck some times they blow up from a flux grenade for reasons I can't understand (even the kill feed says flux grenade).
But punching does no dmg to vehicles or installations....
You'd break your metal reinforced bones even attempting to punch through tank armour powered exoskeleton or no.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
1
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Posted - 2015.08.09 22:14:00 -
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NINEinch WEAPON wrote:Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ Hep metabolic enhancers
Are you trying to make a point?
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Mad Kras
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Posted - 2015.08.09 22:39:00 -
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You can destroy vehicles with Nova Knives because they have some plasma stuff on their blades that makes them Miracle Blade sharp, read the description for a more detailed overview
About melee: I agree with True Adamance
I'm aD1CKted to you <3
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:31:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ
"its ONLY enough to 1shot a sentinel - quit being a baby!"
"I can ONLY leap over cover and attack in all sorts of unconventional manners!"
Myo's are unbalanced and need nerfing. Their jump and melee increases need to be flat values, this 412.51% increased melee damage and god knows what (because no stacking penalty and nonlinear translation of jump speed to actual height HURRRRR) increased jump values are unbalanced.
I have no issue with 400ish melee damage, but anything higher than 500 breaks the game. "Well what about nova knives!" they take up a sidearm slot and don't give you any increased movement attributes.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
965
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:40:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ
There is, in fact, a head shot damage multiplier for melee hits.
So if you hit someone in the head with melee, it does a lot more damage ;)
The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
396
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:41:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ "its ONLY enough to 1shot a sentinel - quit being a baby!" "I can ONLY leap over cover and attack in all sorts of unconventional manners!" Myo's are unbalanced and need nerfing. Their jump and melee increases need to be flat values, this 412.51% increased melee damage and god knows what (because no stacking penalty and nonlinear translation of jump speed to actual height HURRRRR) increased jump values are unbalanced. I have no issue with 400ish melee damage, but anything higher than 500 breaks the game. "Well what about nova knives!" they take up a sidearm slot and don't give you any increased movement attributes.
Your mouth and whining need nerfing |
Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:44:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ "its ONLY enough to 1shot a sentinel - quit being a baby!" "I can ONLY leap over cover and attack in all sorts of unconventional manners!" Myo's are unbalanced and need nerfing. Their jump and melee increases need to be flat values, this 412.51% increased melee damage and god knows what (because no stacking penalty and nonlinear translation of jump speed to actual height HURRRRR) increased jump values are unbalanced. I have no issue with 400ish melee damage, but anything higher than 500 breaks the game. "Well what about nova knives!" they take up a sidearm slot and don't give you any increased movement attributes.
Your justification that knives take up 1 slot is bs. Too reach 1230 punch power takes 3 slots. Not to mention your are forfeiting hp or dmg mods for the punch power. |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
965
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:44:00 -
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I think you should be able to punch takes to death but only in their critical hit spot. It would make sense, clone crushing punches should at least do some damage to the tanks most sensitive area.
The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
1
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:16:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Why can't you? Here's why. I got one hit punched today. That commando dod 1450 damage to me. That's why. Awwwwww poor baby. Max power for one punch from any Commando is 1230. Nice try though champ
It is? Oh. Well, I barely managed to even remember what it was, I just know that it was 1k+ damage. Te most o remembered that match was losing a Rattati to a warbarge strike made to take me and only me out.
CEO of 48SOF
Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
1
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:21:00 -
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I really dont know how someone in a metal suit, even on meth and god knows what other illegal drugs some clones are on, should be able to not only ohk another clone in a metal suit WITH EASE and not hurt himself. For heavens sake, you snag metal to metal and you got an issue. YOU PUNCH METLP WITH METAL AND YOU BREAK A HAND. I thing that myofibs need a nerf AND they should do a little bit of damage to user. Idk like 5% per myofib for a max of 15% return damage.
CEO of 48SOF
Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
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Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
985
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Posted - 2015.08.10 01:23:00 -
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:32:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:zazu 51 wrote:I wanna know why your not allowed to punch a baby? I mean really? They can be so damn annoying sometimes You can punch babies. Having kids is a great stress reducer. For example...dust aggrivates me...I punch one of my kids. Boom I instantly feel better. We should be able to fist vehicles especially if nova knives can do damage.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should...
... Like, existing, for example.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Quasar Storm
0uter.Heaven
606
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:35:00 -
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I totally agree. You should be able to punch vehicles. As long as CCP brings in a limb status system like in Fallout.
1 punch earns -5% reload speed for a broken wrist.
Recent studies show that staring at a green apple changes the likelihood of all ravens being black.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.10 03:57:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:I really dont know how someone in a metal suit, even on meth and god knows what other illegal drugs some clones are on, should be able to not only ohk another clone in a metal suit WITH EASE and not hurt himself. For heavens sake, you snag metal to metal and you got an issue. YOU PUNCH METLP WITH METAL AND YOU BREAK A HAND. I thing that myofibs need a nerf AND they should do a little bit of damage to user. Idk like 5% per myofib for a max of 15% return damage.
We are not wearing knight's armor. We are wearing exoskeletons with servos that allow us to support not only our own bodies, but our equipment and allow us to redirect the damage to our bodies.
A normal person would experience the trauma of of a punch through their skin, muscles and bones. With an exoskeleton you could redirect the force through a gauntlet, up the ferro muscle of your arm and through the entire suit. Granted, that as you start taking in drugs like Myofibril Stimulants you your suit would have to be readjusted to withstand the impact though I have a theory that punches in Dust 514 work a but differently then normal punches in real life. I think that the gauntlet temporarily expands, ever so slightly, so that the momentum of your actual hand continues, though only the gauntlet hits. That way you aren't instantly receiving the force through your hand.
Though, our clones have tougher, and lighter, bones than we do. They also have a numbed sense of pain. Now, if you punch a wall it hurts a lot. If a Dust Clone punched a wall, even without a gauntlet, it would probably feel as painful as a hard high five.
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And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:06:00 -
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Suits have a lot less material and space between the force of the punch and the squishy bit inside...
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:13:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Your justification that knives take up 1 slot is bs. Too reach 1230 punch power takes 3 slots. Not to mention your are forfeiting hp or dmg mods for the punch power.
If myo's allow you to oneshot a sentinel they unequivocally ARE damage mods. You are doing more damage than you were before = damage mod. They are damage mods that ALSO provide an unbelievable advantage in terms of how you move around a map.
If you're armor tanking your suit low cpu & moderate pg use, which compliments well with myo's low pg use and moderate cpu use (No, its not high, 90 CPU for a complex energizer is high) you're not 'making' a trade of hp. "Wow I'm totally trading all those HP mods that I couldn't fit because they cost 10+ powergrid per one".
Knives = No non-melee sidearm, no movement advantages, high damage at short range.
Myos = "no damage mods" (fallacy, myo's are damage mods), "No hp mods" (fallacy, people who run myo's armor tank their suits), incredible increases in variety of movement, the ability to oneshot people at close range, the ability to strafe straight upwards via a button press.
Myo's are a gamebreaking crutch for bad players.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
402
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:19:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:I really dont know how someone in a metal suit, even on meth and god knows what other illegal drugs some clones are on, should be able to not only ohk another clone in a metal suit WITH EASE and not hurt himself. For heavens sake, you snag metal to metal and you got an issue. YOU PUNCH METLP WITH METAL AND YOU BREAK A HAND. I thing that myofibs need a nerf AND they should do a little bit of damage to user. Idk like 5% per myofib for a max of 15% return damage.
And here I thought you were a Minmatar fan. There suits are made from scraps and duct tape. |
Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
402
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:23:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Pierced Daddy wrote:Your justification that knives take up 1 slot is bs. Too reach 1230 punch power takes 3 slots. Not to mention your are forfeiting hp or dmg mods for the punch power. If myo's allow you to oneshot a sentinel they unequivocally ARE damage mods. You are doing more damage than you were before = damage mod. They are damage mods that ALSO provide an unbelievable advantage in terms of how you move around a map. If you're armor tanking your suit low cpu & moderate pg use, which compliments well with myo's low pg use and moderate cpu use (No, its not high, 90 CPU for a complex energizer is high) you're not 'making' a trade of hp. "Wow I'm totally trading all those HP mods that I couldn't fit because they cost 10+ powergrid per one". Knives = No non-melee sidearm, no movement advantages, high damage at short range. Myos = "no damage mods" (fallacy, myo's are damage mods), "No hp mods" (fallacy, people who run myo's armor tank their suits), incredible increases in variety of movement, the ability to oneshot people at close range, the ability to strafe straight upwards via a button press. Myo's are a gamebreaking crutch for bad players.
Just because you spin the story to fit into your perverted box doesn't mean it's true.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:28:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:I really dont know how someone in a metal suit, even on meth and god knows what other illegal drugs some clones are on, should be able to not only ohk another clone in a metal suit WITH EASE and not hurt himself. For heavens sake, you snag metal to metal and you got an issue. YOU PUNCH METLP WITH METAL AND YOU BREAK A HAND. I thing that myofibs need a nerf AND they should do a little bit of damage to user. Idk like 5% per myofib for a max of 15% return damage. And here I thought you were a Minmatar fan. There suits are made from scraps and duct tape.
I get the feeling just trying to punch armour mercenary to death you probably leave your arms with multiple fractures or breaks. Now even if you couldn't feel that, because as clones our sense of pain is very much so dulled, your body would not function quite correctly.
That being said I've not read Templar One so I've not come across a serious explanation as to how the nanites inside clone bodies work nor if the fields given off by Nanohives affect our internal organs.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:30:00 -
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Still working hard on that ban from the forums I see.
"Lol **** u" isn't an argument that disproves anything I've said.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Pierced Daddy
myrtle beach leap frogz
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:35:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Still working hard on that ban from the forums I see.
"Lol **** u" isn't an argument that disproves anything I've said.
You are so adorable Tina. Do you really think a ban is going to hurt ? It's an alt..that's what they are for.
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