so...here's a better question...why not PS4 AND PC?

SO, My original thread about the DUST fixes got quite a bit of heat from people smarter than me, note that those were merely ideas and pure guesses in that topic and I am not the smartest person playing this game by far, so I am making a thread on the possible port to PS4 - I don't wan't it to be another one of those really stupid 'port it to PS4' threads you'll see pop up every so often but I won't say straight up 'port it' these are suggestions, facts and opinions. list form.

1. Porting (Now) is technically impossible, and the PS3 only agreement CCP has will be ending later this year (The exact date is somewhere in the forums) so afterwards it will be possible for a port.

2. CCP has VR & UE4 experience but it is unconfirmed what exactly all they have covered in UE4, the VR aspect is certain. UE4 is supposed to be easier to use from what I hear and has many more possibilities within it, I am pretty sure it would run DUST smoother, but I have no experience, and have not seen game-play (Of any sort) on UE4.

3. The old coding the original DUST coders put there is a massive mess, old versions of DUST had it, and it still has it, and that is the majority cause of frame-rate drops, the auto cache clearer I suggested in my other thread would take quite a bit of coding itself to implement and would only be a slight frame rate fixer, in particularly laggy maps there would still be frame drops and rubber banding, so it is almost mandatory for DUST to be reconstructed from the ground up, say LEGION (The YouTube video I saw at least) I hope uses its own base code. Sure using the old DUST code would be easy but.... ******** beyond measure.

4. in the reworking of all that old code, visual effects and the MCC could be redone as well, basically the little things that aren't getting much attention but should can get it's proper coding and visual effects.

5. Why PS4 and not PC? well it's pretty simple, PS4 is filled with actual gamers and advertisements will be seen not based on what you look at but rather just put onto somebody's TV screen in multiple places, dramatically raising the player base to games much like defiance or planetside 2, DUST falls into a very unique category for being a shooter, it is generally unique while in fact it is not, but it seems like it.

just some suggestions and facts. feel free to discuss, I hope I get less bad comments here because I did not have too much backing behind my last OP and was called out on it, and I understand why. feel free to comment here though.

People hoping for a port can't see the truth of the staffing situation in Shanghai.

Gunjack took those of the people they didn't fire, not counting the at most 10 people still working on dust.

CCP gave up on making a second attempt at an FPS. They won't tell you that because they hope to still sell aurum until they shut this pig down.

What a lot of people who say "the code's a mess. Start from scratch." don't understand is a lot of that "mess" is bug fixes. If you start from scratch you're going to be creating a new game that's going to be a buggy mess at launch. The way to do a port properly is to refactor the existing code, piece-by-piece and clean it up as they go along. If CCP tells you that they rewrote it from scratch, everyone should be very concerned.

SO, My original thread about the DUST fixes got quite a bit of heat from people smarter than me, note that those were merely ideas and pure guesses in that topic and I am not the smartest person playing this game by far, so I am making a thread on the possible port to PS4 - I don't wan't it to be another one of those really stupid 'port it to PS4' threads you'll see pop up every so often but I won't say straight up 'port it' these are suggestions, facts and opinions. list form.

1. Porting (Now) is technically impossible, and the PS3 only agreement CCP has will be ending later this year (The exact date is somewhere in the forums) so afterwards it will be possible for a port.

2. CCP has VR & UE4 experience but it is unconfirmed what exactly all they have covered in UE4, the VR aspect is certain. UE4 is supposed to be easier to use from what I hear and has many more possibilities within it, I am pretty sure it would run DUST smoother, but I have no experience, and have not seen game-play (Of any sort) on UE4.

3. The old coding the original DUST coders put there is a massive mess, old versions of DUST had it, and it still has it, and that is the majority cause of frame-rate drops, the auto cache clearer I suggested in my other thread would take quite a bit of coding itself to implement and would only be a slight frame rate fixer, in particularly laggy maps there would still be frame drops and rubber banding, so it is almost mandatory for DUST to be reconstructed from the ground up, say LEGION (The YouTube video I saw at least) I hope uses its own base code. Sure using the old DUST code would be easy but.... ******** beyond measure.

4. in the reworking of all that old code, visual effects and the MCC could be redone as well, basically the little things that aren't getting much attention but should can get it's proper coding and visual effects.

5. Why PS4 and not PC? well it's pretty simple, PS4 is filled with actual gamers and advertisements will be seen not based on what you look at but rather just put onto somebody's TV screen in multiple places, dramatically raising the player base to games much like defiance or planetside 2, DUST falls into a very unique category for being a shooter, it is generally unique while in fact it is not, but it seems like it.

just some suggestions and facts. feel free to discuss, I hope I get less bad comments here because I did not have too much backing behind my last OP and was called out on it, and I understand why. feel free to comment here though.

It's a gamble, yes.

Bugs only come from both lack of experience and skill. You may get some bugs in the game anyways, but you can avoid most of the ones from the Dust off you had a team that actually knew what they were doing with their current tools, I would assume.

The old Dust team was a huge mess, just like the Nullarbur DS.

so...here's a better question...why not PS4 AND PC?

10 year road map bro.. 10 year roadmap

and NDA..

there's still that shot fired that topples an empire/leaving footprints on the sand..

did they come up with any new catch phrase for 2015 or did they finally give up on those

that moment when you can't give away your millions of isk in local or NPC corp chat instead get LOLed out of the chann

hmmm you guys think BO3 will come out for ps3?

well they still have in reserve the do not sell your ps3 yet
looks at upcomeing ps3 release for new games

hmmmm yes, yes, here we go a reason not to sell a ps3 in favor of a newer platform

its hardcore ps3 barbies sisters puppy rescue!
and skylanders

back to looking at dust 514
the really funny part is the NDA

the game is out so why NDA? lol

versus

Warframe

what are they working on?

developers workshop

stuff being developed for warframe way before it hits a release build
then the Digital Extreme devs actually post the new item or mission or weapons or suits and they want feedback on them

then the feedback gets incorporated to the new build

but here on Dust 514?
what you working on?
NDA

hey CPM what are they working on?
NDA

is the new build going to be bad?
NDA

is the new build going to be good?
NDA

hey GM any info?
NDA

now pardon me but back to playing Warframe

Wahappen with ps2 tech i thought u were stoked on it, too many bugs?

Why not PC?
Think about it.. I mean really think about that.
How fast do Dev changes come out?
How fast do PC hacks come out?

Is there any question that the Devs would be floundered with a broken game if it branched over to PC? No. Not a single doubt here.
I played games like that with a low Dev count. "Combat Arms". Wow.. the insane number of hackers, in there...
Guys shooting through walls... auto aimbots.. infinite ammo... team killing bombs, and the "everyone dies instantly" nutcases who hit both teams at the same time. Oy....

so...here's a better question...why not PS4 AND PC?