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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:04:00 -
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Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
678
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:15:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom
yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:22:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3
Slaughtering MLT suits with a MLT suit that has the stats of other players ADV suits does sound quite fun. LOL for MLT ScR on a basic AmAss just pooping 50 points out every where.
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shanghili
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:23:00 -
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I think meta locking wont solve a thing.Most scrubs will always find ways to fit suits that will shred others
2 heavies 1 scout
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
442
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:37:00 -
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Meta locking is a red hering in my view.
The imbalance of SP invested as mentioned already, the discrepancies of the existing meta ratings, the inherent differences in the classes are just a few reasons I hold this view.
Player count is the biggest problem with matchmaking and therefore protostoming too. Adding meta locking just introduces more variables to try to balance.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:43:00 -
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If people can't find matches with their proto then they are going to use advanced and militia suits and guess what? yall are still going to cry because they have the passives and the experience. The worst thing CCP can do right now is divide the players even more. They don't have the luxury to do so because they ain't league of legends, dota, call of duty, battle field, counter strike where the player base is a healthy constant 50,000 playing every day and a massive 100,000 players at peak times in some of these games.
If CCP still had their player base of over 10,000 then meta locks would not be a problem heck even place an SP lock, but this is not the case anymore. People can barely even find an ambush or so i heard. |
DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:45:00 -
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That makes skilling into higher tier equipment redundant.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:54:00 -
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The SP difference has already been pointed out. Another thing that seems to be overlooked whenever Meta Locking is brought up is the inaccuracy of the Meta numbers themselves. These need to be looked at. Proto Turrets are not equal to Proto Ion Pistol, but meta numbers indicate otherwise.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
680
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:That makes skilling into higher tier equipment redundant.
CCP is making high end gear for PC matches it looks like - and PC's only point is vanity items.
so yea - it is pointless. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:17:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:Meta locking is a red hering in my view.
The imbalance of SP invested as mentioned already, the discrepancies of the existing meta ratings, the inherent differences in the classes are just a few reasons I hold this view.
Player count is the biggest problem with matchmaking and therefore protostoming too. Adding meta locking just introduces more variables to try to balance.
^^ Lots of Yes.
The only flaw there is that a huge problem with match making is also incentive to win. If you are going against a top level team you are almost guaranteed to go ISK negative at the end of the match.
An example of why this is a problem:
Team 1
4 man squad of high Mu players
2 man squad of high Mu players
1 solo high Mu player
9 solo low to average Mu players
Team 2
4 man squad of high Mu players
4 man squad of high Mu players
2 man squad of high Mu players
6 solo low Mu players to keep the overall balance the same.
This would seem fairly balanced right? Its not perfect but it seems to have the makings of a good fight.
But wait the 4 man squad on Team 1 recognizes the other 4 man squad and maybe someone in the other squad. They quickly leave battle knowing that it is going to be a fight and almost certainly an ISK negative scenario. Scotty quickly fills in randomly selected players to try to keep the player count even and now the teams look like this.
Team 1
2 man squad of high Mu players
1 solo high Mu player
13 solo low to average Mu players
Team 2
4 man squad of high Mu players
4 man squad of high Mu players
2 man squad of high Mu players
6 solo low Mu players.
Suddenly a very ugly picture has been painted all because one small group of guys knew they were going to go ISK negative. That is why the biggest update matchmaking can receive is a major incentive to win. This would make the high level players Scotty has paired up with low level players more likely to pull their weight as oppose to just running BPOs and it would make the low level players less likely to just quit causing the higher level players to end up all alone.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
917
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:23:00 -
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
684
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:23:00 -
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yup, they can fix match making till they're blue - until there's a reason to win it's all for naught. PC used to be the incentive for a lot of us - but now PC is being turned into garbage beyond reconigition - you don't PC to get rich, no, as a mercenary, you don't care about ISK - you just want shiney stuff!!!
CCP go **** yourself. |
Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
1
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:31:00 -
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Meta locking is not the way to go.
People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match.
If we get meta locking, then we might see even worse stomping. You will have the low SP players fitting a standard suit with standard mods because they don't have the SP in their cores competing with players who have 25% more fitting room to add the proto mods they need. You'll have suits (heavies) that are best in particular (low) meta locked modes.
I want to stay as far away from metalocking as possible
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:41:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:yup, they can fix match making till they're blue - until there's a reason to win it's all for naught. PC used to be the incentive for a lot of us - but now PC is being turned into garbage beyond reconigition - you don't PC to get rich, no, as a mercenary, you don't care about ISK - you just want shiney stuff!!!
CCP go **** yourself.
Umm aren't they already blue tags?
You bring up a good point tho. Officer weapons now flow freely from strong boxes and out to the people who have the ISK to burn making it so that nothing is "cool to have" anymore. I really hope this gets addressed with some super exclusive items in the DK store but I have little hope for that based on the test screen shots that we saw.
I think I will try to work up something to address that to add to my payout proposal that everyone loves to ignore.
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Carmine Lotte
Talon Havocs
11
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:47:00 -
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Not necessarily true most player have their proto suits carry them so even a maxed out Sp militia or standard suits in squads can lose to a Academy Player. I know I did.
Better to have the option than not anyways. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:51:00 -
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Carmine Lotte wrote:Not necessarily true most player have their proto suits carry them so even a maxed out Sp militia or standard suits in squads can lose to a Academy Player. I know I did.
Better to have the option than not anyways.
If I take my fully specialized heavy into a meta locked match with it fitted to max meta for that match I promise rage quits will ensue. The only constraints become ammo and if by some off chance I go up against another fully specialized heavy. Everyone else in the match will just be fodder.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:55:00 -
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Get rid of premade squads and in game comms and most of the problem is solved. Pubs should be for he casual or new gamer that usually doesn't squad. Right now the problem is two different playstyles. Competitive grouped players shouldn't be able to just come down to pubs for practice. You take away the group think aspect and the instant communication and many of those tryhards will fall apart.
You have FW and PC for gangbang competitive tryharding; no reason for pubs to not to be for the individual player that just wants to pop in and go.
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:57:00 -
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They could lock out passives and the same people who get stomped now would still get stomped.
The solution for people who get stomped is and always will be, to squad up and throw clones at getting better. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:00:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Get rid of premade squads and in game comms and most of the problem is solved. Pubs should be for he casual or new gamer that usually doesn't squad. Right now the problem is two different playstyles. Competitive grouped players shouldn't be able to just come down to pubs for practice. You take away the group think aspect and the instant communication and many of those tryhards will fall apart.
You have FW and PC for gangbang competitive tryharding; no reason for pubs to not to be for the individual player that just wants to pop in and go.
I believe the first step is to reduce pub size to 12 players. Totally in theory of course but I feel like part of the issues is Scotty just cramming in filler to make 16 happen.
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:02:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Get rid of premade squads and in game comms and most of the problem is solved. Pubs should be for he casual or new gamer that usually doesn't squad. Right now the problem is two different playstyles. Competitive grouped players shouldn't be able to just come down to pubs for practice. You take away the group think aspect and the instant communication and many of those tryhards will fall apart.
You have FW and PC for gangbang competitive tryharding; no reason for pubs to not to be for the individual player that just wants to pop in and go.
How would getting rid of squads in pubs help a team based game?
And how does one casually play an FPS? What if during casual play you accidentally kill an enemy player? Do they then stop playing casually and seriously try to kill you back? |
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
43
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:21:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match.
Pretty much.
The other day I was able to run in my very first actually organized squad with some of the CORSY guys. I went seven kills, eleven assists, and only two deaths, a damn good score compared to my solo average, in Ambush, my most hated game mode when I played solo, using nothing but Standard and none of my gear buffed by skilling up, because I don't have any SP since I biomassed. And in a squad that was the god damn easiest fight I've ever had. Ambush is actually enjoyable when you can communicate. I think we won that fight with low 40s or high 30s for clone count, and most of the kills were from our little four man squad.
Mics OP. Standard gear OP.
For the record, my old main, Luka, has Proto gear and that doesn't help for **** running solo except the 'self sufficient' gear, like nanohives, rep tools, and codebreakers, stuff that scores you easy points or keeps you going regardless of whether you're in a squad. But no amount of proto is going to save you from concentrated fire from several sources. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
687
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:27:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match. Pretty much. The other day I was able to run in my very first actually organized squad with some of the CORSY guys. I went seven kills, eleven assists, and only two deaths, a damn good score compared to my solo average, in Ambush, my most hated game mode when I played solo, using nothing but Standard and none of my gear buffed by skilling up, because I don't have any SP since I biomassed. And in a squad that was the god damn easiest fight I've ever had. Ambush is actually enjoyable when you can communicate. I think we won that fight with low 40s or high 30s for clone count, and most of the kills were from our little four man squad. Mics OP. Standard gear OP. For the record, my old main, Luka, has Proto gear and that doesn't help for **** running solo except the 'self sufficient' gear, like nanohives, rep tools, and codebreakers, stuff that scores you easy points or keeps you going regardless of whether you're in a squad. But no amount of proto is going to save you from concentrated fire from several sources.
This argument would make more sense if that mic squad wasn't normally always in proto or at least using proto weapons. lol |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:35:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match. Pretty much. The other day I was able to run in my very first actually organized squad with some of the CORSY guys. I went seven kills, eleven assists, and only two deaths, a damn good score compared to my solo average, in Ambush, my most hated game mode when I played solo, using nothing but Standard and none of my gear buffed by skilling up, because I don't have any SP since I biomassed. And in a squad that was the god damn easiest fight I've ever had. Ambush is actually enjoyable when you can communicate. I think we won that fight with low 40s or high 30s for clone count, and most of the kills were from our little four man squad. Mics OP. Standard gear OP. For the record, my old main, Luka, has Proto gear and that doesn't help for **** running solo except the 'self sufficient' gear, like nanohives, rep tools, and codebreakers, stuff that scores you easy points or keeps you going regardless of whether you're in a squad. But no amount of proto is going to save you from concentrated fire from several sources. This argument would make more sense if that mic squad wasn't normally always in proto or at least using proto weapons. lol
It's tough when one has 16 proto suits and 13 APEX suits. For example AV fits, fast link fit, scan fit, all proto. I'd need at least 3x the fitting slots to run moral and ethical fits in pubs. |
No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
43
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:39:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:This argument would make more sense if that mic squad wasn't normally always in proto or at least using proto weapons. lol
If there was anyone running proto in our squad it was two people at most, because someone, I think BEAST, loaned an APEX Gal commando to one of our squadmates right before the fight so he could try out the plasma cannon. Or whichever commando has a plasma cannon. So unless he spruced that up in the few seconds before he spawned in he was probably using only standard, also.
But my score is still an accomplishment for me and I'm actually having fun in this game again, so I'm happy either way. |
Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
535
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:44:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3
wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
693
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:47:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention
you still suck, don't worry.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 01:26:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention
Calling someone dumb and then making a completely stupid statement is awesome. Think on it for a little while hopefully you can figure it out.
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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
1
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:51:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:
This argument would make more sense if that mic squad wasn't normally always in proto or at least using proto weapons. lol
Having a squad makes the entire match easier. That makes the risk involved with running proto or officer gear much lower. So, people compound their advantages to make the match easier still. The relationship between Proto gear and Squads is due to correlation, not cause and effect
You're only going to see (essentially) officer gear in a squad. That's the only time people feel like they are safe enough to bring it out.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
535
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Posted - 2015.08.08 03:43:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention you still suck, don't worry. #gitgud
really I've never seen you in a game do you even solo bro do you even squad bro do you even play dust bro? I'm not one to just start using proto at any chance of resistance I've got I don't run away and hide back with a rail or scrambler rifle i fight up close and personal and ill be damn sure to run some proto if i ever see you in a match and ill only go for you I'll stomp you out without a moments hesitation just to show you how childish your being.
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
535
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Posted - 2015.08.08 03:53:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match. Pretty much. The other day I was able to run in my very first actually organized squad with some of the CORSY guys. I went seven kills, eleven assists, and only two deaths, a damn good score compared to my solo average, in Ambush, my most hated game mode when I played solo, using nothing but Standard and none of my gear buffed by skilling up, because I don't have any SP since I biomassed. And in a squad that was the god damn easiest fight I've ever had. Ambush is actually enjoyable when you can communicate. I think we won that fight with low 40s or high 30s for clone count, and most of the kills were from our little four man squad. Mics OP. Standard gear OP. For the record, my old main, Luka, has Proto gear and that doesn't help for **** running solo except the 'self sufficient' gear, like nanohives, rep tools, and codebreakers, stuff that scores you easy points or keeps you going regardless of whether you're in a squad. But no amount of proto is going to save you from concentrated fire from several sources.
im not saying that you won't die as often if people couldn't use proto what im saying is that fire from I proto is bad enough but when there is a full 4 man or a qsynced set of squads and they are all using proto and concentrating all of their fire on one guy all with proto weapons that he dies faster than if they were just using lower level gear and if they wanted to make their weapons perform better they would have to sacrifice high slots to do so, so they would sacrifice shields and then buff shields
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:05:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:
This argument would make more sense if that mic squad wasn't normally always in proto or at least using proto weapons. lol
Having a squad makes the entire match easier. That makes the risk involved with running proto or officer gear much lower. So, people compound their advantages to make the match easier still. The relationship between Proto gear and Squads is due to correlation, not cause and effect You're only going to see (essentially) officer gear in a squad. That's the only time people feel like they are safe enough to bring it out.
You bring in officer gear to make enemy team poop their pants.
Now to the point. Having a squad makes your winning chances higher but does not grant you an easy win.
Good solo player can flip whole squads (4 man). Then it's up to randoms. Thy will either help or fail utterly.
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
47
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:10:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match. Pretty much. The other day I was able to run in my very first actually organized squad with some of the CORSY guys. I went seven kills, eleven assists, and only two deaths, a damn good score compared to my solo average, in Ambush, my most hated game mode when I played solo, using nothing but Standard and none of my gear buffed by skilling up, because I don't have any SP since I biomassed. And in a squad that was the god damn easiest fight I've ever had. Ambush is actually enjoyable when you can communicate. I think we won that fight with low 40s or high 30s for clone count, and most of the kills were from our little four man squad. Mics OP. Standard gear OP. For the record, my old main, Luka, has Proto gear and that doesn't help for **** running solo except the 'self sufficient' gear, like nanohives, rep tools, and codebreakers, stuff that scores you easy points or keeps you going regardless of whether you're in a squad. But no amount of proto is going to save you from concentrated fire from several sources. im not saying that you won't die as often if people couldn't use proto what im saying is that fire from I proto is bad enough but when there is a full 4 man or a qsynced set of squads and they are all using proto and concentrating all of their fire on one guy all with proto weapons that he dies faster than if they were just using lower level gear and if they wanted to make their weapons perform better they would have to sacrifice high slots to do so, so they would sacrifice shields and then buff shields
To be fair, if four guys all decked up in proto focused fire on one guy, said guy would go down in a second flat no matter what they're wearing. An armor tanked Amarr heavy being repped by two logis would go down quickly against fully concentrated fire from four people.
Also what Shadowed Cola was saying was that meta-locking would mean that she'd be able to go into a standard locked meta match but still come out on top because even though she's using standard gear the bonuses she gets from leveling up her skills, sharpshooter, rapid reload, extra health from shields/armor, gives her a huge edge. New players can only use militia or standard and may not have the SP or know-how to get better modules or investments, and won't have the same edge as an experienced, high SP player using the same gear. New players would still get slaughtered in a standard-meta locked match, just not quite as hard. |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:19:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom
How many times do we have to explain that gear has no bearing?
I'm pretty sure I remember Regnum or Protoman demonstrating this at one point by taking all Militia gear into a match and still managing a ludicrous KDR.
Prototype gear doesn't make you good, and tier-restrictions won't handicap people that are just good at the game.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
536
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Posted - 2015.08.08 06:07:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom How many times do we have to explain that gear has no bearing? I'm pretty sure I remember Regnum or Protoman demonstrating this at one point by taking all Militia gear into a match and still managing a ludicrous KDR. Prototype gear doesn't make you good, and tier-restrictions won't handicap people that are just good at the game.
but it will handicap the ones that can't live without running proto they got their isk from pcs and they stomp fw so much that they can buy whatever they want on the cheap even with fat cash stacks it would also help to add a higher payout so you are forced to make do with less you'll have even more to stomp fws with
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
700
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Posted - 2015.08.08 06:28:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention you still suck, don't worry. #gitgud really I've never seen you in a game do you even solo bro do you even squad bro do you even play dust bro? I'm not one to just start using proto at any chance of resistance I've got I don't run away and hide back with a rail or scrambler rifle i fight up close and personal and ill be damn sure to run some proto if i ever see you in a match and ill only go for you I'll stomp you out without a moments hesitation just to show you how childish your being.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
983
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Posted - 2015.08.08 07:53:00 -
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Standard shotgun/bolt pistol dont give not 1 **** about your meta level.
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KGB Sleep
Kinsho Swords
1
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Posted - 2015.08.08 10:58:00 -
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This is New Eden, mommy can't save you from the monsters.
When you step into the game you do so at your peril.
Come prepared.
Because beer, that's why.
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