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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:22:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3
Slaughtering MLT suits with a MLT suit that has the stats of other players ADV suits does sound quite fun. LOL for MLT ScR on a basic AmAss just pooping 50 points out every where.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:17:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:Meta locking is a red hering in my view.
The imbalance of SP invested as mentioned already, the discrepancies of the existing meta ratings, the inherent differences in the classes are just a few reasons I hold this view.
Player count is the biggest problem with matchmaking and therefore protostoming too. Adding meta locking just introduces more variables to try to balance.
^^ Lots of Yes.
The only flaw there is that a huge problem with match making is also incentive to win. If you are going against a top level team you are almost guaranteed to go ISK negative at the end of the match.
An example of why this is a problem:
Team 1
4 man squad of high Mu players 2 man squad of high Mu players 1 solo high Mu player 9 solo low to average Mu players
Team 2
4 man squad of high Mu players 4 man squad of high Mu players 2 man squad of high Mu players 6 solo low Mu players to keep the overall balance the same.
This would seem fairly balanced right? Its not perfect but it seems to have the makings of a good fight.
But wait the 4 man squad on Team 1 recognizes the other 4 man squad and maybe someone in the other squad. They quickly leave battle knowing that it is going to be a fight and almost certainly an ISK negative scenario. Scotty quickly fills in randomly selected players to try to keep the player count even and now the teams look like this.
Team 1
2 man squad of high Mu players 1 solo high Mu player 13 solo low to average Mu players
Team 2
4 man squad of high Mu players 4 man squad of high Mu players 2 man squad of high Mu players 6 solo low Mu players.
Suddenly a very ugly picture has been painted all because one small group of guys knew they were going to go ISK negative. That is why the biggest update matchmaking can receive is a major incentive to win. This would make the high level players Scotty has paired up with low level players more likely to pull their weight as oppose to just running BPOs and it would make the low level players less likely to just quit causing the higher level players to end up all alone.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:41:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:yup, they can fix match making till they're blue - until there's a reason to win it's all for naught. PC used to be the incentive for a lot of us - but now PC is being turned into garbage beyond reconigition - you don't PC to get rich, no, as a mercenary, you don't care about ISK - you just want shiney stuff!!!
CCP go **** yourself.
Umm aren't they already blue tags?
You bring up a good point tho. Officer weapons now flow freely from strong boxes and out to the people who have the ISK to burn making it so that nothing is "cool to have" anymore. I really hope this gets addressed with some super exclusive items in the DK store but I have little hope for that based on the test screen shots that we saw.
I think I will try to work up something to address that to add to my payout proposal that everyone loves to ignore.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:51:00 -
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Carmine Lotte wrote:Not necessarily true most player have their proto suits carry them so even a maxed out Sp militia or standard suits in squads can lose to a Academy Player. I know I did. Better to have the option than not anyways.
If I take my fully specialized heavy into a meta locked match with it fitted to max meta for that match I promise rage quits will ensue. The only constraints become ammo and if by some off chance I go up against another fully specialized heavy. Everyone else in the match will just be fodder.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 20:00:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Get rid of premade squads and in game comms and most of the problem is solved. Pubs should be for he casual or new gamer that usually doesn't squad. Right now the problem is two different playstyles. Competitive grouped players shouldn't be able to just come down to pubs for practice. You take away the group think aspect and the instant communication and many of those tryhards will fall apart.
You have FW and PC for gangbang competitive tryharding; no reason for pubs to not to be for the individual player that just wants to pop in and go.
I believe the first step is to reduce pub size to 12 players. Totally in theory of course but I feel like part of the issues is Scotty just cramming in filler to make 16 happen.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.08 01:26:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention
Calling someone dumb and then making a completely stupid statement is awesome. Think on it for a little while hopefully you can figure it out.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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