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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:05:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:
This argument would make more sense if that mic squad wasn't normally always in proto or at least using proto weapons. lol
Having a squad makes the entire match easier. That makes the risk involved with running proto or officer gear much lower. So, people compound their advantages to make the match easier still. The relationship between Proto gear and Squads is due to correlation, not cause and effect You're only going to see (essentially) officer gear in a squad. That's the only time people feel like they are safe enough to bring it out.
You bring in officer gear to make enemy team poop their pants.
Now to the point. Having a squad makes your winning chances higher but does not grant you an easy win.
Good solo player can flip whole squads (4 man). Then it's up to randoms. Thy will either help or fail utterly.
Loyal to The State
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:10:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:People are not getting stomped because the opposition is using proto gear. People are getting stomped because the opposition is using their mics. If you don't believe me, go ask a solo player how much proto helps them win their matches. I'd bet money that they would rank "How good are my blueberries" over "was I wearing proto gear" with respect to why they won or lost the match. Pretty much. The other day I was able to run in my very first actually organized squad with some of the CORSY guys. I went seven kills, eleven assists, and only two deaths, a damn good score compared to my solo average, in Ambush, my most hated game mode when I played solo, using nothing but Standard and none of my gear buffed by skilling up, because I don't have any SP since I biomassed. And in a squad that was the god damn easiest fight I've ever had. Ambush is actually enjoyable when you can communicate. I think we won that fight with low 40s or high 30s for clone count, and most of the kills were from our little four man squad. Mics OP. Standard gear OP. For the record, my old main, Luka, has Proto gear and that doesn't help for **** running solo except the 'self sufficient' gear, like nanohives, rep tools, and codebreakers, stuff that scores you easy points or keeps you going regardless of whether you're in a squad. But no amount of proto is going to save you from concentrated fire from several sources. im not saying that you won't die as often if people couldn't use proto what im saying is that fire from I proto is bad enough but when there is a full 4 man or a qsynced set of squads and they are all using proto and concentrating all of their fire on one guy all with proto weapons that he dies faster than if they were just using lower level gear and if they wanted to make their weapons perform better they would have to sacrifice high slots to do so, so they would sacrifice shields and then buff shields
To be fair, if four guys all decked up in proto focused fire on one guy, said guy would go down in a second flat no matter what they're wearing. An armor tanked Amarr heavy being repped by two logis would go down quickly against fully concentrated fire from four people.
Also what Shadowed Cola was saying was that meta-locking would mean that she'd be able to go into a standard locked meta match but still come out on top because even though she's using standard gear the bonuses she gets from leveling up her skills, sharpshooter, rapid reload, extra health from shields/armor, gives her a huge edge. New players can only use militia or standard and may not have the SP or know-how to get better modules or investments, and won't have the same edge as an experienced, high SP player using the same gear. New players would still get slaughtered in a standard-meta locked match, just not quite as hard. |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:19:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom
How many times do we have to explain that gear has no bearing?
I'm pretty sure I remember Regnum or Protoman demonstrating this at one point by taking all Militia gear into a match and still managing a ludicrous KDR.
Prototype gear doesn't make you good, and tier-restrictions won't handicap people that are just good at the game.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2015.08.08 06:07:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom How many times do we have to explain that gear has no bearing? I'm pretty sure I remember Regnum or Protoman demonstrating this at one point by taking all Militia gear into a match and still managing a ludicrous KDR. Prototype gear doesn't make you good, and tier-restrictions won't handicap people that are just good at the game.
but it will handicap the ones that can't live without running proto they got their isk from pcs and they stomp fw so much that they can buy whatever they want on the cheap even with fat cash stacks it would also help to add a higher payout so you are forced to make do with less you'll have even more to stomp fws with
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.08 06:28:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Is there an eta on meta locked pub matches cause this proto stomping is getting ridiculous. or at least meta lock skirms idgaf about dom yea i can't wait - you scrubs are going to cry murder when i take my fully SP'd ass into your lower tier matches with all my passives granting me 25% bonus on health, damage, and other bonuses the newbies won't get for a while :3 wow ur dumb I have all my passives and everything I didn't say that means a thing I said META LOCKING not sp locking pay attention you still suck, don't worry. #gitgud really I've never seen you in a game do you even solo bro do you even squad bro do you even play dust bro? I'm not one to just start using proto at any chance of resistance I've got I don't run away and hide back with a rail or scrambler rifle i fight up close and personal and ill be damn sure to run some proto if i ever see you in a match and ill only go for you I'll stomp you out without a moments hesitation just to show you how childish your being.
The main's name is SoTa PoP - this is my forum alt. Feel free to come at me anytime. I love it when people can back up there ****. And love it more when they can't <3 |
Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.08.08 07:53:00 -
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Standard shotgun/bolt pistol dont give not 1 **** about your meta level.
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KGB Sleep
Kinsho Swords
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Posted - 2015.08.08 10:58:00 -
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This is New Eden, mommy can't save you from the monsters.
When you step into the game you do so at your peril.
Come prepared.
Because beer, that's why.
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