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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:11:00 -
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You know something is broken when a Prototype XT-201 missile launcher (with dmg mods) and Gunnlogi GV.0 get destroyed by a Madrugar G-1 with basic blaster. (We both engaged each other face to face with hardeners activated and I didn't miss any missiles)
Not only is the Large Missile horrible at killing armor tanks, shield tanks boosters are complete trash that fail you when you need it the most. Also, why the hell do the heavy shield boosters and shield hardeners take sooooo much resources. Gosh, give shield tanks a a buff by buffing or modules.
1.) reduce the cost of CPU n PG of shield hardeners and Shield heavy boosters 2.) Make boosters actually work
3.) Increase RoF of my Missiles plz.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:28:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:What?
Missile Turret is best at destroying armor tanks.
Putting it on a crappy shield tank was your problem.
Missiles do not need a buff.
My Particle Cannon begs to differ.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:29:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Also, what is wrong with you that you allowed the fight to happen at point blank range?
You have 6x the effective engagement range, and yet you decided to get in a brawl?
Not every map has lots of area. We fought in the middle of a city.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:35:00 -
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Badgerr Rager wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Badgerr Rager wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:You know something is broken when a Prototype XT-201 missile launcher (with dmg mods) and Gunnlogi GV.0 get destroyed by a Madrugar G-1 with basic blaster. (We both engaged each other face to face with hardeners activated and I didn't miss any missiles)
Not only is the Large Missile horrible at killing armor tanks, shield tanks boosters are complete trash that fail you when you need it the most. Also, why the hell do the heavy shield boosters and shield hardeners take sooooo much resources. Gosh, give shield tanks a a buff by buffing or modules.
1.) reduce the cost of CPU n PG of shield hardeners and Shield heavy boosters 2.) Make boosters actually work
3.) Increase RoF of my Missiles plz. #isuck For money or for free? Aurum or ISK? Money mainly but if you in FA i do it for free.... I mean my tanker alt can easily handle an armour tank. Using a basic tank.. You probably don't know how to fit one or even fight in a tank. Baby steps
Bro, I've been playing with tanks since chromosome but skill doesn't help you when the other players is using a better vehicle than you with a better gun.
Blaster kills shields faster than missile kills Armor. Also, leave it to faulty boosters to fail at the most important time.
BTW his tank was ADV.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:38:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
My Particle Cannon begs to differ.
No one cares about what your particle cannon says. You whelp proto tanks to blaster maddies and cry on the forums afterwards. Feel free to come at me with your rail tank, just don't bother with a shield tank, it won't help you.
So you agree shield tanks are ****? Then why am I not allowed to post on the forums in order to bring them on par?
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:59:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
So you agree shield tanks are ****? Then why am I not allowed to post on the forums in order to bring them on par?
One, you shiptoasted the title, its misleading. There is nothing wrong with missile turrets that doesn't extend to the rest of the game. They might benefit from a very slight splash buff to move them to a better middle ground between blasters and rails, but that is a very fine line to walk. I don't think they need it. Second, your anecdote has nothing to do with balance problems. You were a muppet and lost a tank. Third, the problem with shield tanks is unlikely to get really fixed, because without a model rework, the gun depression will always be broken. A simple buff isn't the solution, especially until the shield booster actually works. Fix the shield booster, give them a higher absolute speed than maddies, and then see how they sort out. It isn't that you aren't allowed to post, but badposting gets mocked. Badposting about being a scrub in a tank fight needs to be mocked for the good of all.
1: You are right about the title.
2: I always give a story behind the reason. It tells you exactly what got me thinking about the topic. Also, yes Missile turrets are pretty sh*t. Like I said, a blaster kills a shield tank faster than missiles kill armor. Also, missiles are completely useless against a shield tank where as Blaster turrets are viable at killing armor tanks.
If you think a Prototype Missile Launcher is good at killing PRO-ADV armor tanks, boy are you wrong. (Unless you run like 3 dmg mods which is not viable with a shield tank).
The answer is simple here, Shield tanks are crap, and Large missiles aren't very good.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 04:43:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
2: I always give a story behind the reason. It tells you exactly what got me thinking about the topic. Also, yes Missile turrets are pretty sh*t. Like I said, a blaster kills a shield tank faster than missiles kill armor. Also, missiles are completely useless against a shield tank where as Blaster turrets are viable at killing armor tanks.
The story doesn't matter, it was just you being bad. If you came out of that fight blaming the tank, you need to reevaluate your post fight thought process. You took a shield boosting missile tank into a brawl with a blaster tank. It was only going to end one way, the turret has nothing to do with it and you picked the wrong type of tank for going into a range fight. Sir Dukey wrote:
If you think a Prototype Missile Launcher is good at killing PRO-ADV armor tanks, boy are you wrong. (Unless you run like 3 dmg mods which is not viable with a shield tank).
XTs are amazing at killing tanks. Stop confusing the turret with the tank. You can run missiles on an armor hull.
So you're calling me bad because I used a gunnlogi instead of madrugar. Hmm...
I can believe XTs are amazing at killing tanks as long as you are fighting militia scrubs.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 04:45:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Does anyone have any guides for a shield/missile tank in the current meta. Is it even viable at all? Fits? Strategies? Engagement ranges?
Missiles are not viable on Shield tanks bro, you're gonna get raped. Shield tanks are only good at glass cannon redline camping.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 05:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:General Mosquito wrote: Fair comments.
Stop confusing the turret with the tank. You can run missiles on an armor hull. So you're calling me bad because I used a gunnlogi instead of madrugar. Hmm... I can believe XTs are amazing at killing tanks as long as you are fighting militia scrubs. XT's are nasty to face down in an armour HAV.... particularly if you yourself are employing a Blaster HAV. The issue I find with them is that they require you to make every shot count and if you do not or are facing an enemy with a canny sense for movement and positioning your fight becomes significantly harder. I've recently seen a great deal many more Armour-Missile fits basically operating as "Bugspray for Armour Tanks". Just spray and walk away. I might alongside returning to Shield HAV pick up Missiles once more.
Don't use on gunnlogi. Armor tanks have the toughness to survive blaster fire from other Armor tanks unlike gunnlogi which allows you to get in two clips using maddy.
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.08.03 14:25:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Sir Dukey wrote: So you're calling me bad because I used a gunnlogi instead of madrugar. Hmm...
I can believe XTs are amazing at killing tanks as long as you are fighting militia scrubs.
You blamed the vehicle and the turret when your tactics were deeply flawed. If you had to brawl with the tank, you should have gone with an armor tank. Given the tank meta, no shield tank is hanging around up close with a blaster, so you taking one into that situation and expecting it to do anything other than die suggests you are bad.
So you're whole argument I am a bad tanker is based on me using a gunnlogi other than madrugar and I took gunnlogi in CQC. Well get what bro, I take my railgun gunnlogi's in CQC too and often come out victorious. It's not me, it's the turret and you can also blame my faulty booster.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 14:41:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
So you're whole argument I am a bad tanker is based on me using a gunnlogi other than madrugar and I took gunnlogi in CQC. Well get what bro, I take my railgun gunnlogi's in CQC too and often come out victorious. It's not me, it's the turret and you can also blame my faulty booster.
Only a poor mechanic blames his tools. In this case, you died only because of all the foolish decisions you made, from tank type, to fit, to where to engage with what you had on field. You went down the decision tree of tanking and made the wrong choices the whole way and then blame the tank and turret. That is what a scrub does. I've seen you tank, you are bad. When I see you next, you will eat missiles and see that they are very nasty to die to. You being bad doesn't mean shield tanks don't suck hard, but really, missiles are fine.
You've seen me tank?? Bullshit dude. I don't have a single sp into tanking on this account. And still, your argument is soley based on the fact that I chose a gunnlogi. If I had chose a madrugar with missiles, I probably would have won, am I a better tanker then? Lol you're joke bruv.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.08.03 17:22:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I was thinking about how the Heavy Missile turret could be tweaked. What if it received a blast radius buff to something in neighborhood of a mass driver (4m - 4.4m) but got a large splash damage nerf maybe something like 50-60 splash damage? This would allow it to be more effective against infantry/equipment without completely wrecking them?
50-60 is too low, it would take over 3 clips to kill something with splah. Also, it's not easy utilizing splash damage when there is no arc of round.
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