DUST Search - We as a Community need to fix Matchmaking

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped.

Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons..

Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc.

What would life be without a challenge?

I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch.

All I hear is "we aren't good enough for competition, so please let the 8 of us stomp on the same patch of noobs until they stop being noobs, then they can join us and stomp on all the other noobs"

Because good fights are for pussies.

Are you seriously trying to flip my words around?

I see you are one of those pathetic wimps that bad gaming has nurtured...

Ladies and Gentelclones, I present to you DUST Fiend.. A dust player who chooses to fly around the map doing loopty loops, refusing to land on the ground and help a merc out with some grunt work. INSTEAD, he will either choose one of these 2 paths: Fly a mile high or jusy leave battle when the going gets tough.

Like I said, ya'll a bunch of wimps and I gauge EVERY SINGLE MERC I come across and keep a pretty clear mental record on the circumstances that lead to their eventual departure from battle.

AHA! Clarification has hit me, now I know why you are flipping my words... It's because I flip your dropship like a pancake right?

I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease

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Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 822	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:27:00 - [1] - Quote It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!* a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:30:00 - [2] - Quote Few are so dedicated to the game, many are here to exploit for easy wins. It tends to kill the game if the devs can't do anything about the short comings of a game. At this point I think its too late to do anything, well its just me being pessimistic so who knows Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
HOWDIDHEKILLME Second-Nature Rise Of Legion. 756	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:36:00 - [3] - Quote If nobody could leave. It would fix bolth problems.
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 210	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:46:00 - [4] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. *The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. how about faggots like Sedat Berat stop protostomping in one match and then immediately quitting the next! It's ALWAYS the ones you see try-harding like their life depends on it who are rage-quitting games. ALWAYS. they only want easy games. for matchmaking to work, people need to want competitive games, but they don't, they want to have boring easy games whilst destroying the playerbase and making sure nobody else has fun. you can't make selfish people care.
Kensai Dragon T.H.I.R.D Acadamy 132	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:55:00 - [5] - Quote A penalty of some sort for leaving early sounds good at first glance, however, it is not that simple to apply. It would need to also take into account the fact that there are real life issues that come up on occasion, as well as PSN / network issued outside of our control. Logging the completed / left early stats would be a good first step, with any proposed 'punishment' applied on an incremental level over time (matches left / matches offered for the last day / week / last x# games). Maybe after x# leaves, you're booted for the day like team killers in FW. Also, this needs to be balanced against the motivation to complete the match. I don't intentionally leave games, no matter how bad it gets, unless RL issues come up (kids come before a silly game, lol). If people are regularly leaving, there must be reasons for it. I'm sure many people leave for kdr stats, or the perception of unfair mechanics (like the self fulfilling prophecy of the other team keeping point, all vets leave, then of course they keep the point), but I'm sure that there are also legitimate reasons that could / should be addressed. I think a 'leave limit' should be implemented, high enough to forgive occasional leavers, low enough to avoid abuse. From my perspective, 5 leaves in a day accounts for Stat padding / abuse, so I'd say 5 leaves in a day and you're kicked for the day... KDR - Kill Die Repeat
nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 328	Posted - 2015.08.02 21:23:00 - [6] - Quote Idk almost never eveeeer get removed from battle fatal error seems to happen from time to time but honestly a penalty seems like best Idea second take off matchmaking it doesnt work enemy team can have full proto sqds n ill be on team with academy guys so might as well put back to auto fill cuz its faster FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
oooooooooooops Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 21:50:00 - [7] - Quote It was fine before CCP 'fixed' it, all game modes worked. Now I have to put up with playing whatever game mode the other 31 people in my mu group have selected.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.08.02 22:06:00 - [8] - Quote Players leaving battle is the result of the problem, not the problem itself. Note: There is no single magic fix that will cure all of the matchmaking problems at once. There are however things we can do to mitigate. - Meta cap - Incentivising the good squads to go play FW - Rewarding players who routinely finish all battles - etc. These would help. They wouldn't make every battle perfectly even, but would make an improvement CPM Platform
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 22:09:00 - [9] - Quote I just play man. Some of yall have too much free time. I get a few matches at best a week, If nobody is on in my corp, I try squad finder, if no go I'm immediately in games solo. I don't leave battles, I go in and do what I can, or what I want to with the time and manpower allotted. Feels good coming in a game halfway over and turning it around for the blues, or if not, coming out on top of both teams. Idc about wins, losses, kd, or anything. I'm trying to enjoy my time. More ppl need to care less and play for fun more. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
ROMULUS H3X research lab 616	Posted - 2015.08.02 22:44:00 - [10] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. *The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. Matchmaking is completely unnecessary for a game with with such a small player base... Random battles with random sqwads always seemed to have full battles... I never played another game where you could have one third the enemy team's players and then the next 2 players join the enemyteam making it EVEN MORE UNBALANCED... HONESTLY HOW COULD THE SIMPLICITY OF 1 FOR YOU AND 1 FOR ME BE UNDER-CODED? Personally I think I learned to share before I learned to speak FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!

ROMULUS H3X research lab 616	Posted - 2015.08.02 22:50:00 - [11] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Players leaving battle is the result of the problem, not the problem itself. Note: There is no single magic fix that will cure all of the matchmaking problems at once. There are however things we can do to mitigate. - Meta cap - Better ranking system tied to matchmaking - Incentivising the good squads to go play FW - Rewarding players who routinely finish all battles - etc. These would help. They wouldn't make every battle perfectly even, but would make an improvement Ditching the matchmakng disease will solve the problem, was stupid to input the system in the first place FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Void Echo Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 22:58:00 - [12] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. *The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. Matchmaking is completely unnecessary for a game with with such a small player base... Random battles with random sqwads always seemed to have full battles... I never played another game where you could have one third the enemy team's players and then the next 2 players join the enemyteam making it EVEN MORE UNBALANCED... HONESTLY HOW COULD THE SIMPLICITY OF 1 FOR YOU AND 1 FOR ME BE UNDER-CODED? Personally I think I learned to share before I learned to speak Randomly placing protostopmers against noobs is the problem. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC. Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 616	Posted - 2015.08.02 23:14:00 - [13] - Quote Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped. Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons.. Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc. What would life be without a challenge? I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Mossellia Delt Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2015.08.03 00:33:00 - [14] - Quote I've started just leaving matches. Playing solo and being stuck on a team of 6 v 14 at the very beginning is just a waste of time. Even worse since my MU is so high and the other team always has two squads on it. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 823	Posted - 2015.08.03 00:46:00 - [15] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped. Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons.. Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc. What would life be without a challenge? I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch. I'm not talking about that ?..... Read this post again please. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
ROMULUS H3X research lab 619	Posted - 2015.08.03 00:51:00 - [16] - Quote I was responding to Void Echo, who replied to my post.. You asked for suggestions on matchmaking I said remove it, it's garbage and doesn't help.. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
HOWDIDHEKILLME Second-Nature Rise Of Legion. 757	Posted - 2015.08.03 00:55:00 - [17] - Quote Being able to q-sync in pubs has been the doom of this game since beta. If we want a truly balanced match with matchmaker remove squads and leave battle option from pubs. If some dire emergency come's up turn your PS3 off and take care of it. If you leave battle you lose the suit anyway.
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 01:23:00 - [18] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped. Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons.. Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc. What would life be without a challenge? I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch. All I hear is "we aren't good enough for competition, so please let the 8 of us stomp on the same patch of noobs until they stop being noobs, then they can join us and stomp on all the other noobs" Because good fights are for pussies. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Badgerr Rager Fatal Absolution 923	Posted - 2015.08.03 01:32:00 - [19] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. *The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. When you play a few weeks more after getting out of the academy, you get placed in better matches :) One day, I would like to be good at this game
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 01:44:00 - [20] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. *The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. They should allow us to turn traitor and switch teams after a certain amount of time. Because, that's why.

Badgerr Rager Fatal Absolution 926	Posted - 2015.08.03 01:46:00 - [21] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: It comes aparent to me that players complain on both sides of the field. 1) One group of players complains about being put in half finished matches. 2) While the other group of players complain about players leaving the battle. *The first group that complains about being put in half finished matches is filling up the empty Slots for the players complaining about players leaving. As you all can see this is quite an endless cycle and just goes around on the forums. Sooo Complaining to CCP about this on the Forums will not help; due to the fact that they are most likely in the same conundrum as we all are. Seems tricky trying to help both sides of the Playing field doesnt it ? Instead I ask you all for suggestions on ways to help CCP fox matchmaking. They should allow us to turn traitor and switch teams after a certain amount of time. God that's a horrible idea.. Go back to cleaning windows with your tongue. One day, I would like to be good at this game
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 508	Posted - 2015.08.03 02:30:00 - [22] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: I've started just leaving matches. Playing solo and being stuck on a team of 6 v 14 at the very beginning is just a waste of time. Even worse since my MU is so high and the other team always has two squads on it. But yeah... Delt for CPM2... FML Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
ROMULUS H3X research lab 621	Posted - 2015.08.03 03:37:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped. Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons.. Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc. What would life be without a challenge? I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch. All I hear is "we aren't good enough for competition, so please let the 8 of us stomp on the same patch of noobs until they stop being noobs, then they can join us and stomp on all the other noobs" Because good fights are for pussies. Are you seriously trying to flip my words around? I see you are one of those pathetic wimps that bad gaming has nurtured... Ladies and Gentelclones, I present to you DUST Fiend.. A dust player who chooses to fly around the map doing loopty loops, refusing to land on the ground and help a merc out with some grunt work. INSTEAD, he will either choose one of these 2 paths: Fly a mile high or jusy leave battle when the going gets tough. Like I said, ya'll a bunch of wimps and I gauge EVERY SINGLE MERC I come across and keep a pretty clear mental record on the circumstances that lead to their eventual departure from battle. AHA! Clarification has hit me, now I know why you are flipping my words... It's because I flip your dropship like a pancake right? FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 03:47:00 - [24] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped. Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons.. Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc. What would life be without a challenge? I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch. All I hear is "we aren't good enough for competition, so please let the 8 of us stomp on the same patch of noobs until they stop being noobs, then they can join us and stomp on all the other noobs" Because good fights are for pussies. Are you seriously trying to flip my words around? I see you are one of those pathetic wimps that bad gaming has nurtured... Ladies and Gentelclones, I present to you DUST Fiend.. A dust player who chooses to fly around the map doing loopty loops, refusing to land on the ground and help a merc out with some grunt work. INSTEAD, he will either choose one of these 2 paths: Fly a mile high or jusy leave battle when the going gets tough. Like I said, ya'll a bunch of wimps and I gauge EVERY SINGLE MERC I come across and keep a pretty clear mental record on the circumstances that lead to their eventual departure from battle. AHA! Clarification has hit me, now I know why you are flipping my words... It's because I flip your dropship like a pancake right? Someone's upset that they aren't getting paired against only new players. It's ok, just stay with your friends, they'll carry you against the big scary try hards. I enjoy watching people make asses of themselves, it's why I post and it's why I love this thread, you know...cuz...you're in it... I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
ROMULUS H3X research lab 621	Posted - 2015.08.03 04:00:00 - [25] - Quote Awwwe quit trolling you making me queef a bit. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Mossellia Delt Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2015.08.03 04:03:00 - [26] - Quote Devadander wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: I've started just leaving matches. Playing solo and being stuck on a team of 6 v 14 at the very beginning is just a waste of time. Even worse since my MU is so high and the other team always has two squads on it. But yeah... Delt for CPM2... FML Its one thing I want to talk to CCP about with the player base. Its not fair for high MU players to be stacked against full squads and its not fair for new players to be stuck on the high MU players team and be put against those squads either. It kills the enjoyment not only for me, but for the players going 0/16 with less then 100 WPs . Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 04:14:00 - [27] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Awwwe quit trolling you making me queef a bit. Asking me to quit trolling is like asking you to stop queefing. We both know it's never gonna happen I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Tiny Pineapple Corrosive Synergy No Context 294	Posted - 2015.08.03 06:17:00 - [28] - Quote I have started to loathe the ISK system in this game. People stop trying to win the battle as soon as they get instagibbed by a proto suit. Honestly, I don't blame them. Why keep trying if you're just going to lose money? You can't handle all this synergy.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 510	Posted - 2015.08.03 08:57:00 - [29] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Devadander wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: I've started just leaving matches. Playing solo and being stuck on a team of 6 v 14 at the very beginning is just a waste of time. Even worse since my MU is so high and the other team always has two squads on it. But yeah... Delt for CPM2... FML Its one thing I want to talk to CCP about with the player base. Its not fair for high MU players to be stacked against full squads and its not fair for new players to be stuck on the high MU players team and be put against those squads either. It kills the enjoyment not only for me, but for the players going 0/16 with less then 100 WPs . Yeah, but, you already said it. Making you one of the battle leavers imo, forever. So glad I didn't toss you a vote. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 510	Posted - 2015.08.03 09:03:00 - [30] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: Void... I don't know about you, but as a noob player I got stomped untill I learned how to not get stomped. Fighting better, more organized, high SP mercenaries has conditioned us to leave our noob cocoons.. Leaving noobs to fight just noobs is not the way to teach players the ins and outs of Being a successful merc. What would life be without a challenge? I see gamers need to be pampered nowadays, bunch of spoiled punks we are going to raise, just you watch. All I hear is "we aren't good enough for competition, so please let the 8 of us stomp on the same patch of noobs until they stop being noobs, then they can join us and stomp on all the other noobs" Because good fights are for pussies. Are you seriously trying to flip my words around? I see you are one of those pathetic wimps that bad gaming has nurtured... Ladies and Gentelclones, I present to you DUST Fiend.. A dust player who chooses to fly around the map doing loopty loops, refusing to land on the ground and help a merc out with some grunt work. INSTEAD, he will either choose one of these 2 paths: Fly a mile high or jusy leave battle when the going gets tough. Like I said, ya'll a bunch of wimps and I gauge EVERY SINGLE MERC I come across and keep a pretty clear mental record on the circumstances that lead to their eventual departure from battle. AHA! Clarification has hit me, now I know why you are flipping my words... It's because I flip your dropship like a pancake right? Lol, I have three fits named H3XER, a light, medium, and heavy, ready for when I see you in the killfeed. (or any other jumpy hitty splashy guys...) One of my favorite dust moments was melee'ing you whilst you were in your melee fit. -¬_-¬ Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~



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