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Kensai Dragon
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Posted - 2015.08.02 20:55:00 -
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A penalty of some sort for leaving early sounds good at first glance, however, it is not that simple to apply. It would need to also take into account the fact that there are real life issues that come up on occasion, as well as PSN / network issued outside of our control.
Logging the completed / left early stats would be a good first step, with any proposed 'punishment' applied on an incremental level over time (matches left / matches offered for the last day / week / last x# games). Maybe after x# leaves, you're booted for the day like team killers in FW.
Also, this needs to be balanced against the motivation to complete the match. I don't intentionally leave games, no matter how bad it gets, unless RL issues come up (kids come before a silly game, lol).
If people are regularly leaving, there must be reasons for it. I'm sure many people leave for kdr stats, or the perception of unfair mechanics (like the self fulfilling prophecy of the other team keeping point, all vets leave, then of course they keep the point), but I'm sure that there are also legitimate reasons that could / should be addressed.
I think a 'leave limit' should be implemented, high enough to forgive occasional leavers, low enough to avoid abuse. From my perspective, 5 leaves in a day accounts for Stat padding / abuse, so I'd say 5 leaves in a day and you're kicked for the day...
KDR - Kill Die Repeat
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Kensai Dragon
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Posted - 2015.08.03 17:29:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:I have started to loathe the ISK system in this game. People stop trying to win the battle as soon as they get instagibbed by a proto suit. Honestly, I don't blame them. Why keep trying if you're just going to lose money?
Losing money? It's a pub match! Go in with STD/MLT suit with MLT/STD/ADV gear, you have to die about 15+ times and not try to lose money dude! I'm usually running a mix of STD/MLT with maybe enhanced repper, reactive plate, or myofibs. To restock the suit is typically less than 10k, usually far less. My 'expensive' suits are closed to 20k, and those are 'special case' fits. I average 200k ISK / match. That translates to an average about 150k+ ISK profit each match for me (yes, I tend to die a lot). If we're really getting stomped, then go straight MLT / Starter fit.
If you're running Proto in pubs then you shouldn't be crying about losing ISK. Running a 200k+ setup with no real risk / gain on the backend is just plain silly. There's no Faction Pride at stake, or clone packs or districts to be lost. Pubs are simply the practice / learning / giggles grounds. Go in to have fun and grind the ISK while your at it. I love knowing I killed a Proto with my MLT / STD setup. |
Kensai Dragon
T.H.I.R.D Acadamy
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:22:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Can we have a skunk rule? If to many players leave one side, the game gives victory to the other team.
I dont feell like waiting for a predecided battle to drag out till one MCC blows up. I try to stay in matches but 5 v 12 is not fun to play against.
Its lame people only want easy kills to pad KDR so maybe KDR should be taken away.
Idk, I've been in some 5 v 12's that were actually close battles. That, I think, shows the problem with thinking it's all about the numbers. Remember that pubs host everyone from the elite squads to the drooling noobs. Sure, it's definitely tougher when they more than double your numbers, and with half a brain they should manage to cover your points of entry reasonably well, but that also means that you (presumably, the more experienced vet) need to find more creative ways of teaching them to stay on their toes.
Flanking the noobs while they cover the obvious paths can be fun too, it doesn't have to always be the same boring 'run, shoot, hack' over and over.
When I started this game around a year ago, the big complaint was about Proto stomping in pubs. Now, it sounds like those same protostompers are leaving instead of simply playing the game.
If the game is only fun when you win, maybe you should find a different pastime. Entitlements do not, and should not, exist on the battlefield.
Really starting to sound like old protostompers crying about not getting free wins. I can tell you this much - the day this game becomes 'challenge free' will be the day I quit. Want boring, easy wins? Go play Farmville. I hear they even have a sequel (because, you know, it's so much FUN). |
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