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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:01:00 -
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M' Lady wrote:I really think the outgoing CPM should be banned from posts activities like this...
The CPM is our CPM not one elected by the outgoing members.
I sure members of the community can vote for members who are responsible or representing areas of the game we want to see more ideas pumped into on our own.
That goes for the rest of the outgoing people as well.
Thankfully, CPM as players are free to post almost anything we want. ;)
In part, due to the closed nature of the CPM, it can be more difficult for regular community members to know what being a CPM is like, and what sort of attitude works or doesn't work for the job. We're in a great position to predict who will be good CPM members and who will not.
The community members definitely can vote for who they want. And as a community member, I'm free to make posts recommending people vote one way or the other, just like anyone else. Being CPM doesn't make me not a player anymore, it doesn't make my opinion irrelevant, and I'm free to express it outside of the limitations of the NDA.
Immortal John Ripper wrote:Zatara took a break from playing dust (he admits but also says that he still attended meetings) . But even so... How can you help further develop a game your not playing?
I'm not sure Z has a PS3 anymore. But I'd actually say after filling out a term that actively playing the game has little to do with CPM job effectiveness. Our own personal experience in game isn't generally as important as the feedback we receive from other players anyways. In fact, I didn't even look at in-game activity numbers when determining my list.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:05:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Zatara took a break from playing dust (he admits but also says that he still attended meetings) . But even so... How can you help further develop a game your not playing? I'm not sure Z has a PS3 anymore. But I'd actually say after filling out a term that actively playing the game has little to do with CPM job effectiveness. Our own personal experience in game isn't generally as important as the feedback we receive from other players anyways. In fact, I didn't even look at in-game activity numbers when determining my list.
Do you seriously believe in what you are saying right now?
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:10:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Do you seriously believe in what you are saying right now?
Absolutely. If our feedback to CCP was based on our own experience rather than the community's, we wouldn't be doing that great of a job. You need to understand the game, definitely. But I can provide focused feedback on a patch without actually playing it.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:14:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Do you seriously believe in what you are saying right now? Absolutely. If our feedback to CCP was based on our own experience rather than the community's, we wouldn't be doing that great of a job. You need to understand the game, definitely. But I can provide focused feedback on a patch without actually playing it. no ..no no no. that is not what I meant. The part about relaying the community opinion was the ONLY GOOD THING YOU SAID. I don't expect cpm to no life the game or whatever but when they actively do not play for weeks or months on end... That just tells me that they do not care as much as they pretend they do. Are they frustrated with the game and want a break? Well so are we. The community is fustrated and we voted you guys in to solve the situation. Going on vacation is NOT helping the community AT ALL.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:36:00 -
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Usually it's just being busy, GJR. Doing the CPM stuff (and in my case also running a blog, moving, looking for a new job while working, and then starting a new job) takes a lot of time.
And between doing my elected job as a CPM and playing the game, I want to make sure I'm doing my job for the community.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:38:00 -
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You know... I probably should not be surprised. You remember how from the very start I have been saying to kick judge off and get someone else. You defended him till nearly the very end. For months you made excuses for him. Maybe excuses he told you? who knows but by end term your attitude changed to "Well it's too late now. it would be counterproductive at this point to catch the new guy up... ect.. ect." something along those lines.
And now you defend this.. How can you even understand community opinion if you don't play? How can you explain to CCP the pitfalls of dropships if you rarely fly one? How do you express community concerns about a newly released update when a new patch is only tested for a few hours before they log and go to a new game and not come back for weeks? seriously? Activity and understanding the state of the game is important. We seem to have differing views on what exactly would qualify as a decent cpm. The performance of many of the cpm I have seen so far has not been decent. It seems like you are just looking around you at what everyone else is doing and accepting it as the standard. That is no way to work. Set high standards for yourself and push yourselves forward. Be the best you can be or at least try too. Not just in CPM but in all things.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:40:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Usually it's just being busy, GJR. Doing the CPM stuff (and in my case also running a blog, moving, looking for a new job while working, and then starting a new job) takes a lot of time.
And between doing my elected job as a CPM and playing the game, I want to make sure I'm doing my job for the community. I am not attacking you. You do not have to make excuses. You did your job and fulfilled your obligation and commitment to the best of your ability. I believe that and I will vouch for that. But your viewpoints in my opinion are wrong and you are wrong to defend your fellow cpm for their mistakes. It is not improving or helping anything. In fact I think you are further destroying this game by reenforcing that all this BS is acceptable. It is not acceptable. A line has to be drawn somewhere but you never had the backbone to draw the line. Again I am not really insulting you, I did compliment you earlier. This is constructive criticism you did good in many ways but you can be wrong too.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:47:00 -
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I was just using myself as an example. I don't feel attacked :)
Regarding Judge, he seemed to have a plausible justification for a while. When he came back, and then ditched off again immediately, I stopped defending him. I was never a big fan of his (I advocated people not vote for him) but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't fly dropships when I play, GJR. So it doesn't matter if I'm playing the game or not when passing on feedback on dropships. As barely anyone really plays every single role, your point only highlights my point.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:54:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Usually it's just being busy, GJR. Doing the CPM stuff (and in my case also running a blog, moving, looking for a new job while working, and then starting a new job) takes a lot of time.
And between doing my elected job as a CPM and playing the game, I want to make sure I'm doing my job for the community. You realize you're saying you're a good as candidate as Dust User is, right?
He actively used to get people together to do stuff, in game, and has been the front man for a lot of the content the community has seen in the past year and a half, with Roman and Cuse.
While your Podcast and Blogs are nice - what he does actually effects the game. You don't. So if you find yourself a viable candidate then you're basically endorsing that idiot too, lol |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:55:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Badgerr Rager wrote:Yawn.. I don't even know how you got CPM.. Nor do I care who you are endorsing and why. That is why I did not read your blog. Have a good day I got elected. Thanks for expressing enough care to tell me you do not care! There were like what, 200 votes last time? :/ It was a pretty sad showing.
Here's to another year of CPM accomplishing....not a whole lot in terms of making this game actually playable and note worthy. Maybe there's enough noobs this time around who still have faith so there might actually be a slight voter turn out this year. Again, not that it makes any difference to the actual game itself. |
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:57:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I was just using myself as an example. I don't feel attacked :)
Regarding Judge, he seemed to have a plausible justification for a while. When he came back, and then ditched off again immediately, I stopped defending him. I was never a big fan of his (I advocated people not vote for him) but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't fly dropships when I play, GJR. So it doesn't matter if I'm playing the game or not when passing on feedback on dropships. As barely anyone really plays every single role, your point only highlights my point. lololol no it doesnt highlight your point.
This attitude of yours makes you ignorant. Think of it this way. A professor goes up to you and explains to you a lesson. Now you go home and try to explain the lesson to a friend of yours. Will you be half as knowledgeable as the professor on the subject just with one lesson? one talk? Will you completely understand it?? Can you relay the message just as well? No you will not. You may understand the basics but that doesn't make you an expert. In this case, ccp should just skip you altogether and just go straight to the player that does know what he is talking about. Or we can have someone that does play. That does test all features. That is very versatile in game and can understand and communicate effectively between all players and CCP. The way you make it sound... to me it sounds like a half- assed job. I do not want that in this next cpm. I have standards and I expect them to be met.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
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Badgerr Rager
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.31 16:28:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I was just using myself as an example. I don't feel attacked :)
Regarding Judge, he seemed to have a plausible justification for a while. When he came back, and then ditched off again immediately, I stopped defending him. I was never a big fan of his (I advocated people not vote for him) but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't fly dropships when I play, GJR. So it doesn't matter if I'm playing the game or not when passing on feedback on dropships. As barely anyone really plays every single role, your point only highlights my point. lololol no it doesnt highlight your point. This attitude of yours makes you ignorant. Think of it this way. A professor goes up to you and explains to you a lesson. Now you go home and try to explain the lesson to a friend of yours. Will you be half as knowledgeable as the professor on the subject just with one lesson? one talk? Will you completely understand it?? Can you relay the message just as well? No you will not. You may understand the basics but that doesn't make you an expert. In this case, ccp should just skip you altogether and just go straight to the player that does know what he is talking about. Or we can have someone that does play. That does test all features. That is very versatile in game and can understand and communicate effectively between all players and CCP. The way you make it sound... to me it sounds like a half- assed job. I do not want that in this next cpm. I have standards and I expect them to be met. That is why I don't know how Soraya got elected.. Has such a bad attitude and thinks high of himself because of it.. If he doesn't play anymore I think the feedback he passes off shouldn't matter because I doubt he is getting feedback from community.
One day, I would like to be good at this game
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Maybe there's enough noobs this time around who still have faith so there might actually be a slight voter turn out this year. https://twitter.com/ccp_leeloo/status/627173061620563968 Looks like we passed 1,000 on the first day.
@Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:05:00 -
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That's tremendously depressing actually, that so many people still have faith after the game has quite clearly hit a dead end. I blame new players mostly, the ones who haven't seen how the game has actually "progressed". The rest of you? I have no explanation for that.
More power to the little people though |
Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:48:00 -
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Dust drinking game! Take a shot for every CPM thread over the weekend. Instant tipsy time.
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:01:00 -
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I'm a big wig Alliance Leader this time around. I have sant my list of Endorsements to the Learning Alliance along with a guide on our to vote. I wonder how many people I can influence this year?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:08:00 -
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How many were there last year? Like 750 or something, with like 300 voting only for Judge? Or am I remembering that wrong?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.01 03:07:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:How many were there last year? Like 750 or something, with like 300 voting only for Judge? Or am I remembering that wrong?
There were 936 (or 937, there's disagreement on this for some reason) votes last year, and yeah, about 300 were just for Judge. Breaking the old election total in one day means many more players this year know what the CPM is, and want to be involved in making this game better than it is.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.08.01 03:21:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:http://biomassed.net/2015/07/30/who-sorayas-voting-for/
My endorsements, and more importantly, why I endorse them. Pokey Dravon, Cross Atu, Darth Carbonite, Breakin Stuff, Kevall Longstride, Zaria Min Deir, and Ripley Riley deserve your votes! Thank you for the endorsement, and your continued work on the Biomassed Podcast and Blog.
I'm pleased by the increased activity in this years election cycle, roughly double the candidates and more votes in the first day than in last years entire election. I hope this marks a new trend of heightened community engagement and that such increased activity is matched by further events, lore, and reciprocal communication from CCP.
Cheers, Cross
CPM 1, reelection platform here.
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