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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.07.28 00:51:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:
Worst case, I can see not letting hives restock nades. They already don't stock REs.
Sorry to call you out Breakin, but you're wrong on this one. Hives DO restock RE's. I have a Cal Logi fit I use for expressly this purpose. With a Standard Hive and F/45 nades, I can throw down 6 hives (one at a time obviously). Each hive replenishes 7 RE's. If you include the first 3 on the fit, I can throw out 45 RE's on a single fitting without having to go to a supply depot. This is a little disturbing..
This is the reason why I have from the beginning advocated the idea that while hive carry amount goes up (as it has already done) clusters per hive need to go down (this has not yet happened). This would keep the 'payload' of clusters per equipment slot in line with what it was prior to the 'max carried' changes, it would make the CalLogi racial skill more relevant than it is now - because let's face it, right now that skill is borderline useless - and it would address things like the 45 REs on one fit type of situation.
Clusters per hive need to be brought down, and scaled with meta level.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.28 01:59:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:45 REs on one fit is not a problem. People still allowing themselves to be killed by those REs in the same place after the second time is.
False dichotomy is false.
Just because people playing without awareness, or while drinking, or while not caring, or any of the number of other things that could lead to that behavior is something that feeds into the situation is most certainly a thing does not mean that other aspects of the situation (in this case functionally limitless REs) is not also problematic.
Even if one were to grant that a functionally limitless (re)supply of REs poses no problem that does not confirm that the current mechanics for the interaction between hives and nades/REs/et al is proper and requires no more polish.
Aside from all of that simple declarative statements without any context to detail their foundations or support their contentions are not terribly actionable or constructive.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.28 02:03:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Cross Atu wrote: and it would address things like the 45 REs on one fit type of situation.
Clusters per hive need to be brought down, and scaled with meta level.
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~Cross Actually with a 2nd Nanohive in place of the uplink or rep tool, or a higher end Nanohive, you can put 90 + to 100 RE's on 1 fitting. 2 RE's and we are talking 180.
I was presuming a 2 equipment slot fit not a full on demolition logi, but in the case of added hives you are absolutely correct that it can go higher, and even higher still with the added use of the Cal bonus. Sorry for not being clear in my prior post, thanks for the correction. o7
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