DUST Search - People camping in tanks and dropships are ruining the game

Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:

Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:

Balistyc Farshot wrote:

I just want you to never mention vehicles being expensive. They cost just a little more roughly the same as a suit of the same meta. A full advanced load out logi or commando is easily in the 200k.

R U avin a giggle there m8?

My PROTO fits only cost around 150K.

Assault Dropships are not only very expensive, but they also get destroyed far more easily than any Dropsuit.

Nah I'd argue dropsuits are the easiest to die. Tons of weapons one shot you, scouts with knives, shotguns etc sneak up on you. Thale snipers are a dime a dozen from 400+ meters away. Remotes from all the free serpent scout apex's. you just about always have a chance to run away in an ADS and the missile turrets at least one shot most things that you hit. Given the range of most AV weapons you really put the ball in your court when it comes to engagement. AV might keep you from doing much good in terms of killing people but your own survival causes the enemy team to waste time trying to kill you which is almost as good. Honestly I think the biggest threat to DS is yourself. Not only over committing to something and getting taken down by AV but crashing into buildings and such that make you kill yourself.

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Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 589	Posted - 2015.07.23 18:42:00 - [31] - Quote Balistyc Farshot wrote: I just want you to never mention vehicles being expensive. They cost just a little more roughly the same as a suit of the same meta. A full advanced load out logi or commando is easily in the 200k. There isn't really tiering in the ADS but fully loaded with middle of the road they are what 300k. An Incubus hull is 200,000. My most survivable fit is 316,000. That includes a basic hardener and basic afterburner, and 4327 of eHP. Only complex equipment is the turret and the armor repper. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 21	Posted - 2015.07.24 01:43:00 - [32] - Quote Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: What the heck am I supposed to do when there's a guy in his Pythons shooting at me and all I got I a AR? And even if I had swarms, he would go too high for me to shoot him and he can recover his hp so fast. It's just frustrating when your there, playing a good game then a ***** ***** comes and kills with his missile launcher 1. Ignore it/evade/hide until it's somewhere else 2. Try the PLC instead of swarms, unless you've put a LOT of SP into swarms...Most DS pilots know how to quickly put obstacles or terrain between themselves and the swarms... 3. Get a vehicle of your own 4. Get a squad and work together 5. Find one of the rail/missile installations on the map and wait for the DS pilot to get careless While I agree the balance of vehicle warfare is way off kilter, they really aren't that bad...
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 355	Posted - 2015.07.24 02:09:00 - [33] - Quote Dropships aren't really much of a problem. They're really easy to keep at bay, even without Swarms. One shot from any AV weapon will generally send them scurrying. The problem isn't dropships doing their jobs. The problem is redliners, both tankers and snipers. It's one thing to peg a dropship or tank actually partaking in battle and send them running for cover. It's another entirely to be haunting the redlines with a rail tank and ducking behind a hill when someone so much as looks at you. That's bull **** right there and takes all the fun out of matches. I was in a match against three redline rail tankers a few weeks ago. I literally could not play the game because I had to spend all my time on my forge gun keeping them from taking out my team. I ended the match with about 500 WP from 'damaging' their tanks and didn't get to do anything in the match at all but focus on them, while the three of them all went upwards of 800 and got a healthy padding to their KD/R. We only just barely won and probably would have lost if those tanks had been allowed to keep being fucktards. I want a close match because everyone is trying their damnedest. Not because people on the other team have squadded up specifically to be pussies and KD/R pad.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Corrosive Synergy No Context 5	Posted - 2015.07.24 02:17:00 - [34] - Quote Balistyc Farshot wrote: I just want you to never mention vehicles being expensive. They cost just a little more roughly the same as a suit of the same meta. A full advanced load out logi or commando is easily in the 200k. R U avin a giggle there m8? My PROTO fits only cost around 150K. Assault Dropships are not only very expensive, but they also get destroyed far more easily than any Dropsuit. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog The PLC saved my soul
Koldy Lyte Marven Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2015.07.24 02:25:00 - [35] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: What the heck am I supposed to do when there's a guy in his Pythons shooting at me and all I got I a AR? You run? As if I don't move. I'm not complaining about ADS being OP or whatever, I mean, you must skill a lot to get it and that's what I like about dust, there are thousands ways to fit you gear. What I'm complaining about is when people get a ADS or a tank and just camp where most of you team is, getting easy kills. And is even more annoying when you get killed more that once by the same guy. And it's not that easy to destroy a ADS
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 122	Posted - 2015.07.24 02:33:00 - [36] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Balistyc Farshot wrote: I just want you to never mention vehicles being expensive. They cost just a little more roughly the same as a suit of the same meta. A full advanced load out logi or commando is easily in the 200k. R U avin a giggle there m8? My PROTO fits only cost around 150K. Assault Dropships are not only very expensive, but they also get destroyed far more easily than any Dropsuit. Nah I'd argue dropsuits are the easiest to die. Tons of weapons one shot you, scouts with knives, shotguns etc sneak up on you. Thale snipers are a dime a dozen from 400+ meters away. Remotes from all the free serpent scout apex's. you just about always have a chance to run away in an ADS and the missile turrets at least one shot most things that you hit. Given the range of most AV weapons you really put the ball in your court when it comes to engagement. AV might keep you from doing much good in terms of killing people but your own survival causes the enemy team to waste time trying to kill you which is almost as good. Honestly I think the biggest threat to DS is yourself. Not only over committing to something and getting taken down by AV but crashing into buildings and such that make you kill yourself.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Corrosive Synergy No Context 5	Posted - 2015.07.24 03:10:00 - [37] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Balistyc Farshot wrote: I just want you to never mention vehicles being expensive. They cost just a little more roughly the same as a suit of the same meta. A full advanced load out logi or commando is easily in the 200k. R U avin a giggle there m8? My PROTO fits only cost around 150K. Assault Dropships are not only very expensive, but they also get destroyed far more easily than any Dropsuit. Nah I'd argue dropsuits are the easiest to die. Tons of weapons one shot you, scouts with knives, shotguns etc sneak up on you. Thale snipers are a dime a dozen from 400+ meters away. Remotes from all the free serpent scout apex's. you just about always have a chance to run away in an ADS and the missile turrets at least one shot most things that you hit. Given the range of most AV weapons you really put the ball in your court when it comes to engagement. AV might keep you from doing much good in terms of killing people but your own survival causes the enemy team to waste time trying to kill you which is almost as good. Honestly I think the biggest threat to DS is yourself. Not only over committing to something and getting taken down by AV but crashing into buildings and such that make you kill yourself. You've clearly never piloted an ADS. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog The PLC saved my soul
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.24 04:29:00 - [38] - Quote Balistyc Farshot wrote: I just want you to never mention vehicles being expensive. They cost just a little more roughly the same as a suit of the same meta. A full advanced load out logi or commando is easily in the 200k. There isn't really tiering in the ADS but fully loaded with middle of the road they are what 300k. I'm sorry but I can't hear you over the sound of my 1.143 Million ISK per deployment HAV...... Prototype Dropsuits do not even come close. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.


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