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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.22 22:38:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:
Actually its the other way around...99% of us experience the modded controllers every day. Fast trigger fingers don't get off rounds per second with 1/2 the accuracy. I stand beside guys on my own team every day with Scramblers ripping off 20+ rounds per second with needle point accuracy. Same for the combat rifle...it sounds like a muted machine gun with a modded controller.....real hard to miss the sound difference. As far as the rate of fire you are way off. Check out the comparison thread done last week. The Scrambler need nerfed, its time fan boys realize it and just man up. Its padding a lot of bad kids K/D, but no one can honestly say its balanced. I they do they are just lying. There is a reason there are 10 topics a week about this. CCP said the nerf is coming, and its none to soon. The gun almost single handedly makes shield obsolete.
Scrambler Rifles have a maximum RoF allowing 10 rounds per second........ that being said I've realised since returning to active FW ops that 10 rounds per second isn't actually that hard for me to pull off and maintain a reasonable accuracy.
Sure both Kage and I recognise various attributes of the ScR and AScR need revision but those revision should target mechanics first and if stat changes are required they should be small and incremental at most until the weapon slips into its ideal niche.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.22 23:47:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:I'm a bit sick of people saying the scrambler rifle does OP damage to armour. When I use a scrambler rifle I switch to smg vs armour. Let's do some maths:
Scrambler rifle dps vs armour:
Although 10 rounds per second is the hard cap, in game conditions 7 rounds per second is a more reasonable figure for an experienced scrambler user. Dps = 7 * 65 * 0.8. This give a dps vs armour of 364 hp/s.
SMG dps vs armour:
21 damage at 1000rpm gives a base dps of 350 hp/s. Vs armour the dps is 350 * 1.15 * 1.15 = 463 hp/s.
Scrambler rifle dps vs armour is only 79% of an smg. People using scramblers over smgs vs armour are doing it wrong, except at range obviously.
Is the SMG OP vs armour? No. Quit bitching about scrambler rifles.
Rather than working out the lowest potential DPS vs Armour work out the highest possible on the most common suit. 3x Damage Modules on the Amarr Assault.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.22 23:59:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:True Adamance wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:I'm a bit sick of people saying the scrambler rifle does OP damage to armour. When I use a scrambler rifle I switch to smg vs armour. Let's do some maths:
Scrambler rifle dps vs armour:
Although 10 rounds per second is the hard cap, in game conditions 7 rounds per second is a more reasonable figure for an experienced scrambler user. Dps = 7 * 65 * 0.8. This give a dps vs armour of 364 hp/s.
SMG dps vs armour:
21 damage at 1000rpm gives a base dps of 350 hp/s. Vs armour the dps is 350 * 1.15 * 1.15 = 463 hp/s.
Scrambler rifle dps vs armour is only 79% of an smg. People using scramblers over smgs vs armour are doing it wrong, except at range obviously.
Is the SMG OP vs armour? No. Quit bitching about scrambler rifles. Rather than working out the lowest potential DPS vs Armour work out the highest possible on the most common suit. 3x Damage Modules on the Amarr Assault. Well Kirin's damage mods would have no effect on the comparison. But with three complex light damage mods the results would be: Scrambler 429.5 hp/s SMG 463 hp/s The scrambler has 93% of the dps of an SMG with three complex damage mods. Note I am comparing standard tier weapons. Personally I use two complex damage mods, giving the scrambler 89% of the dps of an SMG vs armour.
And of course worth considering that the ScR is a line rifle and not a side arm.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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