So May 3, 2014 there was an announcement that 'boils down' to "We are moving DUST 514 from the PS3 to a different system." This was at CCP's big convention where they like to release big things: EVE FanFest. After that, the only mention of Legion or transition has been "If Legion becomes a thing" or "we will let you know when it is set in stone, one way or another."

On November 7th, 2014 there was an announcement of a new game in a new universe, something they have not done in 17 years, by Blizzard called Overwatch at BlizzCon; their big convention. The beta was slated to come out January 2015 but Blizzard being Blizzard (Operation CWAL anyone?) the beta was pushed back to "Fall 2015", probably around November to coincide with Blizzcon 2015.

We have two companies that are notorious for (euphemistically) "not releasing a product until it is good and ready" or (bluntly) "dragging their feet through the development phase" with two new products that 'they haven't done before.' Which is going to happen first: Overwatch is released as a Closed Beta/Full Released Game or Legion* is fully announced as either shelved or greenlit?

* For the purposes of 'Legion', I mean "A continuation of DUST 514 on a new system, be it PC, PS4, XBone, or any combination of the previous: a sci-fi FPS set in New Eden where the players play as ground pounding mercenaries."

Speculation, go!

The only that would accomplish is getting the plug pulled on the servers.

A dust port depends pretty exclusively on how confident ccp are in their own abilities and the market. If fozziesov and valkyrie are successful we might see it. Legion is basically hl3 atm

CCP is a business. They are motivated by profit. If Dust 514 suddenly becomes unprofitable at best they are going to leave it in it's current state of hotfixes and infrequent updates; what I have come to call "maintenance mode". At worst, they shut it down completely.

If the players want Dust to get ported then Dust needs to remain profitable. Players need to purchase aurum.

Simple right? Not quite.

Many players wouldn't mind spending aurum if they knew where this game was going. So then we have a catch-22; players won't buy aurum without news of Dust 514's future, CCP won't discuss Dust's future unless the game remains profitable.

Valkyrie and gunjack.

I'd rather play nintendos vr than play star citizen

Personally I give RSI and Chris Roberts an excellent chance at making "The Best Damn Space Sim"(tm) ever.

They have the talent, the money, the enthused player base, and the most modern technology. They are starting from scratch with the aim of first person ships and personal combat so they don't have legacy design holding them back.

I think they will achieve CCP's vision of "One Universe".

I think RSI will take some players from CCP, but I don't think it will kill EVE. The two games are different enough that there will still be a market for EVE. Players who love controlling whole markets and areas of space will need to stay in EVE. Players who love griefing will probably need to stay with EVE too as the opportunities will be lower in SC.

CCP? Competition? Lol, CCP has not had competition with EVE. DUST was the closest they came to competition and look what happened. Lord I'd love to see someone take over CCP and harness their dull potential. They'd r*pe the competition.

I thought about them putting legion on ps4 that's a pretty bad idea with it on PC it gets faster updates faster fixes more eve links and no lag....

This is clueless. "Profitable" could mean they're generating $1 per year more than they're spending. It's close to meaningless without more information. I guarantee you that DUST isn't a money fountain for CCP (if it were there would be a lot more people on the team and we'd see marketing out there).

Here's the deal. DUST is basically an experiment for the next gen project. There are 2 key metrics that DUST has to get right: 1. New Player Retention Percent and 2. Average $ spent per retained player per year. When these numbers hit the sweet spot, CCP will dump as much money as needed to the x86 version.

Here's why. Let's say it costs $1 million in advertising to get 5 million players to download and try out the x86 DUST. If they have a retention rate of 15% and an average $ spend per player retained of $30 (some spend $1000+, most spend $0). That would produce $22.5 million, less the 1 mill advertising costs and development costs and you have a projected profit. If they can increase retention from 15% to 20% they would generate $30 million. If they can boost $ spend per retained player per year by a similar percent, you would see similar increases.

The point is, CCP doesn't care about the profit being generated by DUST right now. It's really insignificant. What they do care about is the metrics of player retention and average spend per player. These numbers will scale on a new platform. That's why they're experimenting so much with the business model (skins, 3x booster stacking, lockboxes, etc.) and adding things like the loadout progression tab, tweaking matchmaking, changing squad sizes, etc. We're the "small scale" laboratory for them to work out if it's worth the investment/risk/effort to port. Withholding money will reduce the key metrics they're using for their business analysis. I'm not saying you should spend money. You can do whatever the hell you want, but don't boycott spending money and think you're actually helping the game's chances at a port. That's moronic thinking.

Yes the numbers are complete fiction, but the relationship between player retention percentage and average spend per retained player holds up with any numbers. I was using fictional numbers just to illustrate the point, but the concept is valid. What's spent is spent and has no bearing on future investments by the way. If CCP can produce a game that retains a significant portion of players and those players they retain are willing to spend a decent amount of $ on average, then they're going to do it. They will beg/borrow/steal the cash to make it happen. Any company would be stupid not to, and any investor would be a fool to pass on that opportunity.

Because the market for the PS3 is shrinking and the market for the PS4/PC/whatever-the-hell is growing. Our numbers are probably so low that they're not a consideration at all. Even if DUST managed to miraculously generate a couple million dollars in profit in 2015, that's pretty negligible to a company the size of CCP. They're chasing the big bucks. DUST is a small-scale proof-of-concept for a much more ambitious vision. If we can demonstrate attractive retention percentages and spending per player numbers I know CCP will be chomping at the bit to get a port out ASAP. It would be a waste of time to chase the scraps from the existing player base instead of working on a port.

That's not to say it's stupid to continue development. It makes a lot of sense to do so, but only for areas that improve those 2 metics, because progress in those areas would carry over to a port. Notice that's exactly what CCP has been doing for the past year?

DUST really doesn't have any true competition. There are RPG elements in other FPS games, but nothing with the depth of DUST's skill tree and load out system. No multiplayer FPS competitors have the concept of loss like DUST does. There are dozens of more polished FPS games out there, and yet I still keep playing DUST. It's not because I can't afford other games, it's because there are no other games that offer what DUST does, even with its (many) flaws. Also, remember that the ones who are spending lots of money on the game are the ones most likely to make the jump to the next gen port.

With a new port there will be a new round of reviews. If the NPE and balance are up-to-par it's reasonable to expect a large influx of new players who will have a much more positive experience than the Uprising 1.0 launch (clusterf*ck).

Why do people keep saying "port" there is already a half finished version of dust on PC....

Legion isn't a port though its much more...better with more features

I can't wait to go to caldari cities in HD on my computer....