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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.07.19 13:52:00 -
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There is a lot that needs to be done to Faction Warfare...
1) 16 man deploy
2) Better isk compensation
3) More reason to run FW other than the fact that it avoids the current bad matchmaking
4) Better racial parity, as far as LP rewards... some factions, almost literally, have nothing good. Example: outside of the APEX suits/skins, and the needle, Caldari have nothing of real use in their store. You can subsidize your purchases of nanohives, but it is, literally, cheaper to buy with isk when you take into account isk lost to get the LP.
Just to bring up a few
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:22:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I think that this shouldn't be like PC? Considering how PC went down. It was super difficult and laggy and first the rewards were too high, which delivered a group of victors that unrewarded the rest of the community. But I do want FW to be serious and rewarding. I realize I just went against myself there. I want it to be because your here for new Eden. Not because your COD friends are here
Considering the rewards for FW were non-existent for a long time... and now there are ways of making your money back, in some form or fashion (as long as you don't run proto, you should break even or make a decent amount just running APEX), but you're still stuck with only 1 or 2 things being good / worth it in the store, and the rest is useless garbage, in my opinion.
Hell, there is only one specialist weapon per race, and most of 'em are just plain bad, and have no reason to be used (specifically: RR specialist and SCR specialist).
CCP could spend more time on FW, and it would almost only be positive.
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Squagga wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:Squagga wrote:I think that this shouldn't be like PC? Considering how PC went down. It was super difficult and laggy and first the rewards were too high, which delivered a group of victors that unrewarded the rest of the community. But I do want FW to be serious and rewarding. I realize I just went against myself there. I want it to be because your here for new Eden. Not because your COD friends are here Considering the rewards for FW were non-existent for a long time... and now there are ways of making your money back, in some form or fashion (as long as you don't run proto, you should break even or make a decent amount just running APEX), but you're still stuck with only 1 or 2 things being good / worth it in the store, and the rest is useless garbage, in my opinion. Hell, there is only one specialist weapon per race, and most of 'em are just plain bad, and have no reason to be used (specifically: RR specialist and SCR specialist). CCP could spend more time on FW, and it would almost only be positive. I dunno. I feel like I run proto a lot, both ISK and LP, and it seems like I'm going positive. Kinda difficult to tell, cause I'm always doing something on the side. I like the idea of being able to get things from the LP store, that you can't get anywhere else. Right now what you have is Federation Duvolle Shotguns and State Kalakiota Rail Rifles. Which are the same damn thing. There is a State Kalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle. It has different cpu/pg requirements, which is nice, and you can only get it there
BUT the Kalakiota Specialist has the same cpu/pg requirements of an ARR, which, imo, is the better weapon.
In order for me to choose the Kalakiota Specialist over the ARR, something else would need to be changed for the (much more) positive.
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Posted - 2015.07.19 22:33:00 -
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Cesar Geronimo wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:There is a lot that needs to be done to Faction Warfare...
3) More reason to run FW other than the fact that it avoids the current bad matchmaking We must be playing in different FW universes...
FW does not use matchmaking. Mu score is not involved, what-so-ever, in team formation in FW.
Outside of APEX/Skins, what other reason is there to get into FW, other than the aforementioned lack of matchmaking?
ETA: of course, some people would prefer to fight for the state, but there is little benefit to it... FW has been, for a long time, an isk sink, and the payouts, as far as LP/loyalty store are lackluster, at best. The LP store needs a complete rework, imo.
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Posted - 2015.07.19 22:50:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:LP items have reduced skill requirements and are equivalent in function to Aurum gear. Specialist gear, as well, is valuable in that it has reduced PG/CPU requirements which makes for some really interesting high-end fittings.
Specialist equipment performs overall better (Imperial Viziam Flux Drop Uplinks), so there is definitely incentive there.
I don't think it needs a -total- rework, just needs to be looked at as far as market data and what is most purchased vs what is least purchased.
Maybe we can talk CCP Rattati into sharing that.
As stated before, there are outliers, specifically the Amarr uplinks, Min rep tool, Gal scanner, and Cal needle. Past that, the modules and suits will run you a net negative, in isk terms, depending on multiple factor, but you aren't generally saving a lot.
Of the specialist weapons, each race has only 1... the Gal AR specialist is not bad, as there are some small gains to be had, and the same as the SCR, but the overall lower cost is not something that is exceptional for these suits. As well, last time I checked, they were still just slightly easier fitting versions of the prototype versions, so the only gain, here, is a couple of PG is saved... which I never use all of my PG on my Amarr suits, anyways. Further more, the specialist Boundless CR is ok, as the fitting costs for these weapons are already really low, and you end up saving only 1 PG, or so, after the innate assault bonus is taken into account. As far as the Caldari, however, the Kaalakiota Specialist RR has 2 less PG than the normal prototype, which means, it fits like the Ishukone Assault, which, even with equal fitting requirements, is still a better weapon, imho.
So... the list of "good items" from the shop would be what...? APEX (sold for isk), skins (sold for isk), and 4 equipment, which are actually extremely viable and useful.
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Posted - 2015.07.20 13:07:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Faster base reload
Cool down times
Larger magazines
Decreased PG/CPU
Higher accuracy rating
Feedback damage
All possible difference makers between FW and isk gear.
On a side note, what about grenades?
This.
We don't have true choices in the market... just a subsidized base version that you still have to pay isk for, and not at a very reduced price, considering the isk you spent getting the LP.
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