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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.07.20 15:02:00 -
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I have never felt the bullet magnetism.
I also have had AA off since forever.
Maybe why the bolt often lets me down, but idc.
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
895
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Posted - 2015.07.20 15:30:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Do you use the bolt pistol? That answer will give me all I need.. And since when does purchase stats prove a wep is op? Not everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon with a bunch tryhard scrubs.. There's many reasons possible.. I'm willing to bet the AR still gets purchased close to the top yet everyone knows its the hands down worst rifle.. Rattatti stated before that game balance was based off how many people used each weapon. Yep its dumb. I know.
He has never said this. I do recall him saying that large numbers of people flocking to a weapon or dropsuit is a sign of potential imbalance, and might cause some investigation, but he has never said that usage rates alone is what the game is balanced on.
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
236
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Posted - 2015.07.20 21:32:00 -
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Anyone defending this wep still is STUPID, or just trying to keep the pocket sniper button.. Period |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
689
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Posted - 2015.07.20 21:40:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Anyone defending this wep still is STUPID, or just trying to keep the pocket sniper button.. Period
Sorry for killing you yesterday Smokey. I'm trying to prove a point With this gun
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
238
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Posted - 2015.07.20 21:44:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Anyone defending this wep still is STUPID, or just trying to keep the pocket sniper button.. Period Sorry for killing you yesterday Smokey. I'm trying to prove a point With this gun
And prove it you did.. 27 one shot one kills.. I retract my hatemail too, which I rarely take part in.. Didn't realize that it was you who made this thread at the time.. |
Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
515
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Posted - 2015.07.20 21:45:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Anyone defending this wep still is STUPID, or just trying to keep the pocket sniper button.. Period Pocket sniper lol, they buffed the crap out of its range, anything beyond 60meters does nothing
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
689
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Posted - 2015.07.20 21:45:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Anyone defending this wep still is STUPID, or just trying to keep the pocket sniper button.. Period Sorry for killing you yesterday Smokey. I'm trying to prove a point With this gun And prove it you did.. 27 one shot one kills.. I retract my hatemail too, which I rarely take part in.. Didn't realize that it was you who made this thread at the time..
o7 This gun needs fixing.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
690
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:13:00 -
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A game I just did
http://imgur.com/TrVX44k
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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CarlitoX Jojooojo
333
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:54:00 -
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BP and this **** post can suck my juicy balls.
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:58:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Needs more headshotz
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
515
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Posted - 2015.07.20 23:31:00 -
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CarlitoX Jojooojo wrote:BP and this **** post can suck my juicy balls. Tempting XD
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
693
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Posted - 2015.07.21 05:03:00 -
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Bump
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.07.21 06:20:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Z3dog wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Just got 10 kills and no deaths using the Militia Variant and I wasn't even aiming at them !!! WTF =ƒÿé=ƒÿé Did you aim at their feet for the headshots? That's the trick you know. I didn't even aim !!!!!!!!!!! I'm so hyped right now for this gun ! I've been killed by ut so many dn times but oooohhh myyy God !!!!! The Auto Aim is ... There's no word to describe the badassness for it ! There are words to describe the auto-aim... and those words are "Exactly the same as other pistols". King Thunderbolt Thundergroove looked it up on the static data export. Edit: I had people confused. I do that sometimes. Z3dog wrote:Don't they have extra special aim adhesion or something. Nope. All pistols have the same aim adhesion. The belief that they do is as much of a perceptional bias as 'calscouts have broken hitboxes' (something that was confirmed to be untrue by rattati himself!).
The second was true, but fixed... so yeah, rattati said cal scouts hit boxes weren't broken.... that kool-aid though lol!
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.07.21 06:24:00 -
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Sniper rifles are less dangerous at ranges where they are totally uncontested for extended periods of time.....
The bolt pistol kills in range of actual rifles often out dpsing them....
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
697
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Posted - 2015.07.21 19:27:00 -
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Did this in my first match today.
http://m.imgur.com/hZAqJ86
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
916
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Posted - 2015.07.23 00:58:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:
Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:
Ill just leave this here...
This is with lag, with my team giving up quarter of the way through due to high ground camping
Clearly by your impeccably scientific standards the ion pistol needs to be nerfed into the ground too. |
tffvbhb
Pile 'em Up
24
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Posted - 2015.07.23 01:47:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Yet the SMG completely outstrips the bolt pistol in terms of units purchased AND in total kills.
I think people are just surprised that a Space Magnum kills people like a... well like a Magnum. That's just plain misleading.. The rise of the bolt is a recent ish thing.. Takes time for everyone to jump on the bandwagon.. And those stats must be old or over life of dust... Because the SMG is pretty useless and has been for about 6 months since its huge Nerf.. As a SMG user I feel that the Nerf wasnt the main reason though.. It's hit detection and I started noticing that after the patch.. Bottom line the bolt pwns the SMG and is the stupid est freaking wep in dust.. There's a reason every tryhard scrub in dust is using it.. You're kidding me right? We dealt with the bolt pistol back in hotfix delta which is almost a whole year ago. There has been plenty of time to get on the bandwagon. In fact, the bolt pistol was nerfed in hotfix delta. And everyone using it? When the data shows the SMG and its variants completely outselling it at almost a 2:1 ratio?And you're going to call ME misleading? You can't use how well something sells as proof to a point for all you know someone bought 100k of them just to throw that off |
Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
251
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Posted - 2015.07.23 01:58:00 -
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tffvbhb wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Yet the SMG completely outstrips the bolt pistol in terms of units purchased AND in total kills.
I think people are just surprised that a Space Magnum kills people like a... well like a Magnum. That's just plain misleading.. The rise of the bolt is a recent ish thing.. Takes time for everyone to jump on the bandwagon.. And those stats must be old or over life of dust... Because the SMG is pretty useless and has been for about 6 months since its huge Nerf.. As a SMG user I feel that the Nerf wasnt the main reason though.. It's hit detection and I started noticing that after the patch.. Bottom line the bolt pwns the SMG and is the stupid est freaking wep in dust.. There's a reason every tryhard scrub in dust is using it.. You're kidding me right? We dealt with the bolt pistol back in hotfix delta which is almost a whole year ago. There has been plenty of time to get on the bandwagon. In fact, the bolt pistol was nerfed in hotfix delta. And everyone using it? When the data shows the SMG and its variants completely outselling it at almost a 2:1 ratio?And you're going to call ME misleading? You can't use how well something sells as proof to a point for all you know someone bought 100k of them just to throw that off
1.Tryhard scrubs don't understand what it means to have standards, so they cant understand that some of us REFUSE to follow the herd just so we can get some easy kills.....
2. You ever think the reason people have purchased this gun so much was that's its a fully auto sidearm? And they thought it must be better than a mere pistol? |
BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2015.07.23 04:05:00 -
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I'm just going to say it....
Anyone who thinks the BP is not broken either uses it as a crutch or does not play this game. Mind you, it is not on the level of scrambler rifles, but it is still broken. I tried it for the first time last week, it hits way too easy and does super DPS. I've been one and two hit killed by this gun numerous times, and the jump scrubs pack it as a sidearm for a reason. Don't have a clue why guys want to argue over it and the few other weapons that are out of line right now. That is unless they are the try hard scrub needing crutches. The game has devolved into that anyway, because sadly most of the guys I see using the BP belong to larger corps these days. The thing is arguing against it is not going to make these posts go away. When an item needs nerfing the community consensus is usually right. Hard to argue when there are 10 posts a week to nerf the BP, Scramblers, AHMG, Madruggars. Those posts are legitimate players aggregating their shared experience together. So again, please stop being fan boy scrubs for your favorite toys when they are out of line and help make a better game by advocating balance. Strategy/teamwork should be the focus and key to success in this game. Not K/D whoring with the FOTM items. So, please stop BSing the community and making yourselves look stupid when you argue against obviously needed balance nerfs, because if they were not needed there would be one post every two months about it not twice a day in a community of less than 300 posters. |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
714
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Posted - 2015.07.23 04:09:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:I'm just going to say it....
Anyone who thinks the BP is not broken either uses it as a crutch or does not play this game. Mind you, it is not on the level of scrambler rifles, but it is still broken. I tried it for the first time last week, it hits way too easy and does super DPS. I've been one and two hit killed by this gun numerous times, and the jump scrubs pack it as a sidearm for a reason. Don't have a clue why guys want to argue over it and the few other weapons that are out of line right now. That is unless they are the try hard scrub needing crutches. The game has devolved into that anyway, because sadly most of the guys I see using the BP belong to larger corps these days. The thing is arguing against it is not going to make these posts go away. When an item needs nerfing the community consensus is usually right. Hard to argue when there are 10 posts a week to nerf the BP, Scramblers, AHMG, Madruggars. Those posts are legitimate players aggregating their shared experience together. So again, please stop being fan boy scrubs for your favorite toys when they are out of line and help make a better game by advocating balance. Strategy/teamwork should be the focus and key to success in this game. Not K/D whoring with the FOTM items. So, please stop BSing the community and making yourselves look stupid when you argue against obviously needed balance nerfs, because if they were not needed there would be one post every two months about it not twice a day in a community of less than 300 posters.
Thank you. All I want for this gun is for it to remove its magnetic bullets.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.23 04:35:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Yet the SMG completely outstrips the bolt pistol in terms of units purchased AND in total kills.
I think people are just surprised that a Space Magnum kills people like a... well like a Magnum.
No, they're crying about the burst damage. When snipers used to be qualified as "burst' they cried as well.
No one cries about the Forgegun. 1000+ damage with more range than any other field gun. Why? I have no idea, ask the whiners.
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Dewie Cheecham
Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
697
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Posted - 2015.07.23 05:11:00 -
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My beef with the Bolt pistol, is that here you have a sidearm, doing more damage than a Sniper Rifle!
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
916
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Posted - 2015.07.23 05:46:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:I'm just going to say it....
Anyone who thinks the BP is not broken either uses it as a crutch or does not play this game. Mind you, it is not on the level of scrambler rifles, but it is still broken. I tried it for the first time last week, it hits way too easy and does super DPS. I've been one and two hit killed by this gun numerous times, and the jump scrubs pack it as a sidearm for a reason. Don't have a clue why guys want to argue over it and the few other weapons that are out of line right now. That is unless they are the try hard scrub needing crutches. The game has devolved into that anyway, because sadly most of the guys I see using the BP belong to larger corps these days. The thing is arguing against it is not going to make these posts go away. When an item needs nerfing the community consensus is usually right. Hard to argue when there are 10 posts a week to nerf the BP, Scramblers, AHMG, Madruggars. Those posts are legitimate players aggregating their shared experience together. So again, please stop being fan boy scrubs for your favorite toys when they are out of line and help make a better game by advocating balance. Strategy/teamwork should be the focus and key to success in this game. Not K/D whoring with the FOTM items. So, please stop BSing the community and making yourselves look stupid when you argue against obviously needed balance nerfs, because if they were not needed there would be one post every two months about it not twice a day in a community of less than 300 posters.
People still whine about red line snipers even though they are the least effective things in the game.
I agree this weapon is broken, but I dont agree that it is OP, do you understand the difference? |
BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2015.07.23 06:19:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:I'm just going to say it....
Anyone who thinks the BP is not broken either uses it as a crutch or does not play this game. Mind you, it is not on the level of scrambler rifles, but it is still broken. I tried it for the first time last week, it hits way too easy and does super DPS. I've been one and two hit killed by this gun numerous times, and the jump scrubs pack it as a sidearm for a reason. Don't have a clue why guys want to argue over it and the few other weapons that are out of line right now. That is unless they are the try hard scrub needing crutches. The game has devolved into that anyway, because sadly most of the guys I see using the BP belong to larger corps these days. The thing is arguing against it is not going to make these posts go away. When an item needs nerfing the community consensus is usually right. Hard to argue when there are 10 posts a week to nerf the BP, Scramblers, AHMG, Madruggars. Those posts are legitimate players aggregating their shared experience together. So again, please stop being fan boy scrubs for your favorite toys when they are out of line and help make a better game by advocating balance. Strategy/teamwork should be the focus and key to success in this game. Not K/D whoring with the FOTM items. So, please stop BSing the community and making yourselves look stupid when you argue against obviously needed balance nerfs, because if they were not needed there would be one post every two months about it not twice a day in a community of less than 300 posters. People still whine about red line snipers even though they are the least effective things in the game. I agree this weapon is broken, but I dont agree that it is OP, do you understand the difference?
If you read the post you would not have to ask that question.....
Literacy is OP. Broken =/= OP.... |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
714
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Posted - 2015.07.23 06:24:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Yet the SMG completely outstrips the bolt pistol in terms of units purchased AND in total kills.
I think people are just surprised that a Space Magnum kills people like a... well like a Magnum. No, they're crying about the burst damage. When snipers used to be qualified as "burst' they cried as well. No one cries about the Forgegun. 1000+ damage with more range than any other field gun. Why? I have no idea, ask the whiners.
Takes a lot more practice to use a Forgun than an Aim Assist Broken Bolt Pistol.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.07.23 06:36:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Yet the SMG completely outstrips the bolt pistol in terms of units purchased AND in total kills.
I think people are just surprised that a Space Magnum kills people like a... well like a Magnum. No, they're crying about the burst damage. When snipers used to be qualified as "burst' they cried as well. No one cries about the Forgegun. 1000+ damage with more range than any other field gun. Why? I have no idea, ask the whiners. They do. Then someone points out that if you don't include charge times in TTK you're being dishonest, they promptly scream, pitch a fit, show their asses and the argument falls apart.
It's a lot of anecdotal screaming and not a lot of hard evidence. A couple videos on the part of better skilled, equipped and talented players are not more than circumstantial unless bad players and mediocre players show similar result.
What's hilarious is CCP said they intended to make sidearms effective at killing similar to light weapons within their optimals.
If framerate and hit detection didn't suck people would be screaming about getting instagibbed by scrambler headshots.
Slower RoF weapons have a serious advantage in DUST. Less of the shots randomly get lost in the ether. It's why I think the AHMG is doing well and why I feel that the breach AR works better than the vanilla AR.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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