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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.07.19 17:28:00 -
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I disagree on the no stealth mechanic, ultimately it would be a melee weapon, only within reach so limiting to no cloak isn't at all fair given we can ohk ppl with some guns (ranged weapon) and kill rather quickly with others (range again).
As for sidearm or main weapon, I believe it really would be just fine as either option, as a Main weapon, with a sidearm of nova knives or smg as backup or if as a sidearm a RR, CR, AR, FG, MD, HMG, SR or any other sidearm as a support weapon, doesn't really matter it is a melee weapon. Without a dash option we really won't see any abuse out of this, its a 4-6ft electrified polearm essentially in an age of rapid fire projectile weapons. What's the worst that could happen? Some dev putting in the ability to block a stream of bullets by spinning the blade around to block them in a shield pattern? Come on.
DJINN Jecture speaks for herself, a Closed Beta Vet, still playing Eve and Dust
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.07.19 17:42:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Nova SwordIt is a decent concept though it would be difficult to balance. It should remain a sidearm, it should take longer to take out, do more damage, take longer go charge and have more range. It shouldn't be a stealth weapon. It should be more of a weapon you openly battle with in close quarters.
The only issue I see with the implementation of a Nova Sword I can see are the movement options. As someone who has been through enough martial arts training to get an idea of what is possible with a sword or even a knife I see the current implementation of Nova Knives as a bit of a joke on us, we wanted some and got some but that was the end of it 2 movement options for its use. I would hate to see this implemented in the same dumbass way that Nova Knives were done, hell even UbiSoft can come up with variations of moves for a blade (see Warframe) and Battlefield even has a few options as well.
DJINN Jecture speaks for herself, a Closed Beta Vet, still playing Eve and Dust
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.07.19 17:54:00 -
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emm kay wrote:I was thinking about a variant of novas that could be used as a main weapon.
I came up nova swords.
These swords are going to be a different mechanic group than the knives.
Here is how they work:
the swords have a 30 degree wider hit angle than nova knives.
The swords don't charge.
while 'firing' the weilder will release a series of serated strikes.
the swords have amunition, measured in strikes.
while reloading, the user is slowed down.
by 'aiming' the user loses all passive scans, and therir field of view is cut in half, and the user cannot jump, however, the user will "run" at a very fast pace (Runspeed - WalkSpeed + Runspeed).
thoughts about the general mechanics of these swords?
see underlined portion:
This is a big issue for me, being that the weapon is a sword and would be melee based, reloading ammo is not something at all desirable nor is it something that makes any sense unless you are using it to launch the blade in a ranged attack as seen in COD:BO2 when using a Ballistic Knife.
As for the rest, using the blade should create a fluid striking state, as when using a blade in real life, swordplay is very much akin to dancing moving from one striking stance to the next and not at all like regular gunplay where you are aiming, firing reloading so to think of it in that manner would severely cripple the user. See my above posts about combat with Nova Knives etc.
The desire to see Nova Swords in game has been present for quite awhile, the mechanics you are thinking of are way too linear for the Sword to be useful in any way and would rather be a hah I killed you with the 2nd worst weapon in game factor for trolling people, the first being Nova Knives.
DJINN Jecture speaks for herself, a Closed Beta Vet, still playing Eve and Dust
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.07.21 19:46:00 -
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emm kay wrote:you literally deny what the GM told me.
you think a hot butterknife will get through shields?
GM's say a lot of stuff that isn't based on anything other than an explanation someone gave them, it seems "charging a nova knife" has changed in what it actually does science wise and while a GM may be discussing how the functional Dust science works, there is a lot of room for interpretation and changes based on what new weapons and physics they decide to implement.
Hot butter knives are OP and would cut shields not a problem, that's why CCP has yet to make anything resembling one.
DJINN Jecture speaks for herself, a Closed Beta Vet, still playing Eve and Dust
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