In all honestly we wouldnt have forum complaints about invicible tanks if we could counter them with dropships by beeing aible to use infantry weapons from passanger seats. The main complaint is that the tanks can drive behind a corner for a few secs and come back with full health. If we could use AV weapons from inside a dropship then tanks where forced to work with their team. For example they could counter a dropship that has a swarmer inside of it by having a squadmate jump out of the tank with a forge/swarms.

We should however restrict this to weapons only cause a armor tanked dropship with minlogis repping it like mad might be too powerfull. The idea is simple you just use teamwork, you combine a fast moving aireal vehicle (that requires 2 people) to counter a ground vehicle which can be operated by a single person.

AV on its own has aswell issues cause you dont just fight a tank, you need to aswell fight your way trough the infantry and if you dont have a commando this is hard to do. This whole thing requires teamwork and to be honest if a dropship pilot and a swarmer inside of the dropship are needed to take down a tank then it should aswell take a AV'er on the ground to counter the dropship. After all it has less tanking capability then any tank.

One of my friends was ontop of my dropship with swarms yesterday worked pretty well its essentially the same thing

Until the guy falls off the dropship.

I think this speaks to the fact the entire Vehicle/AV system is off.

Dropships went from being OP, to being way UP, which did help tanks become OP, as well as other changes. Swarms are OP against dropships, but UP against tanks...

It is just all kinds of messed up at the moment, and I do think that it will take a number of different changes.

What I don't want to see happen is multiple changes at once, that never helps. I think the first change should be changing passive armor reps on tanks to active, and then go from there.

SL's aren't OP vs DS' they only have 175 meter's, and only at Proto level do they even have a reasonable lock on time, DMG was reduced by reduction of number of swarm's from 8 to 6 (back in CB) to straight being 6 and now down to 4 (current),

If a DS decides to out stay their welcome, they deserve to get shot down.

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Swarms are ridiculous vs a DS.

Overpowered vs Dropships.
Underpowered vs HAVs.

Not even remotely. You are mistaking the over performance of Passive Armour Repairers and Dual 40% Armour Hardeners for a lack of potency in swarms. Currently Swarm Launcher damage in very good however the design of HAV at this time ensures damage does not hold well on a target.

That would be a great idea!

I think we could easily implement it, while keeping it balanced, by simply adding a "passenger-tower" type. In place of a missile/rail turret, we would have a gunner-seat instead. That easy. Just forbid heavy weaponry to be used such as forge or HMG and we are good to go! It would add a bit more fun and diversity in dogfights as well.

In all honestly we wouldnt have forum complaints about invicible tanks if we could counter them with dropships by beeing aible to use infantry weapons from passanger seats. The main complaint is that the tanks can drive behind a corner for a few secs and come back with full health. If we could use AV weapons from inside a dropship then tanks where forced to work with their team. For example they could counter a dropship that has a swarmer inside of it by having a squadmate jump out of the tank with a forge/swarms.

We should however restrict this to weapons only cause a armor tanked dropship with minlogis repping it like mad might be too powerfull. The idea is simple you just use teamwork, you combine a fast moving aireal vehicle (that requires 2 people) to counter a ground vehicle which can be operated by a single person.

AV on its own has aswell issues cause you dont just fight a tank, you need to aswell fight your way trough the infantry and if you dont have a commando this is hard to do. This whole thing requires teamwork and to be honest if a dropship pilot and a swarmer inside of the dropship are needed to take down a tank then it should aswell take a AV'er on the ground to counter the dropship. After all it has less tanking capability then any tank.

once upon a time there were ADS pilots that were able to take on tanks but then the tankers QQ that it wasnt fair and thus the ROF nerf happened the end

In all honestly we wouldnt have forum complaints about invicible tanks if we could counter them with dropships by beeing aible to use infantry weapons from passanger seats. The main complaint is that the tanks can drive behind a corner for a few secs and come back with full health. If we could use AV weapons from inside a dropship then tanks where forced to work with their team. For example they could counter a dropship that has a swarmer inside of it by having a squadmate jump out of the tank with a forge/swarms.

We should however restrict this to weapons only cause a armor tanked dropship with minlogis repping it like mad might be too powerfull. The idea is simple you just use teamwork, you combine a fast moving aireal vehicle (that requires 2 people) to counter a ground vehicle which can be operated by a single person.

AV on its own has aswell issues cause you dont just fight a tank, you need to aswell fight your way trough the infantry and if you dont have a commando this is hard to do. This whole thing requires teamwork and to be honest if a dropship pilot and a swarmer inside of the dropship are needed to take down a tank then it should aswell take a AV'er on the ground to counter the dropship. After all it has less tanking capability then any tank.