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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:43:00 -
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You want stable Frames? Then wait until the game ported to a better platform. The PS3 will never give the game stable Frames. #DealWithIt for now... |
Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
8
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:49:00 -
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I've been dealing with it for 3 years....
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
I'm kind of a big deal.
Get Dust ISK Here
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:50:00 -
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just as the ps3 will never give a stable frames per second, dust will never be ported...
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
249
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:53:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I've been dealing with it for 3 years....
I have as well, people just expect to much from CCP... |
ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
249
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:54:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:just as the ps3 will never give a stable frames per second, dust will never be ported...
You never know, CCP could be sitting around the table talking about it now. |
General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:08:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:just as the ps3 will never give a stable frames per second, dust will never be ported... You never know, CCP could be sitting around the table talking about it now.
They've been talking about it since Uprising 1.3. That was when they gutted the team and started work on Legion.
So maybe, just maybe, if they hadn't have pulled the team to work on vaporware project x, we might have gotten to a better place regarding client performance.
Sadly, CCP never even tried before firing the team, and splitting those who remained onto the mobile/VR project and the skeleton crew for dust.
But I am with Ghosts. Dust won't get ported, and it won't get a reboot on another platform. The thing is deader than dead. We are just playing through the last act.
General Butt Naked - Biomassed
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go.
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WARxion ForDUST
Dead Man's Game
354
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:18:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:just as the ps3 will never give a stable frames per second, dust will never be ported... You never know, CCP could be sitting around the table talking about it now. They've been talking about it since Uprising 1.3. That was when they gutted the team and started work on Legion. So maybe, just maybe, if they hadn't have pulled the team to work on vaporware project x, we might have gotten to a better place regarding client performance. Sadly, CCP never even tried before firing the team, and splitting those who remained onto the mobile/VR project and the skeleton crew for dust. But I am with Ghosts. Dust won't get ported, and it won't get a reboot on another platform. The thing is deader than dead. We are just playing through the last act.
DUST is dead! - Everyone, 2013 DUST is really dead! - Everyone, 2014 Come on guys, trust us, this game is dead! - Everyone 2015
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:27:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:General Mosquito wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:just as the ps3 will never give a stable frames per second, dust will never be ported... You never know, CCP could be sitting around the table talking about it now. They've been talking about it since Uprising 1.3. That was when they gutted the team and started work on Legion. So maybe, just maybe, if they hadn't have pulled the team to work on vaporware project x, we might have gotten to a better place regarding client performance. Sadly, CCP never even tried before firing the team, and splitting those who remained onto the mobile/VR project and the skeleton crew for dust. But I am with Ghosts. Dust won't get ported, and it won't get a reboot on another platform. The thing is deader than dead. We are just playing through the last act. DUST is dead! - Everyone, 2013 DUST is really dead! - Everyone, 2014 Come on guys, trust us, this game is dead! - Everyone 2015 dust wasnt really dead in 2013. 2014 a little but there was still many PC fights going on. 2015 in the other hand oh my god PC has like zero competition it is laughable how disorganized people play nowadays. Once i see the loss of key core players in a game that is when it is time to fear the worse.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
68
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:29:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:
DUST is dead! - Everyone, 2013 DUST is really dead! - Everyone, 2014 Come on guys, trust us, this game is dead! - Everyone 2015
Dust doesn't have to have zero players to be dead.
General Butt Naked - Biomassed
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go.
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:34:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:
DUST is dead! - Everyone, 2013 DUST is really dead! - Everyone, 2014 Come on guys, trust us, this game is dead! - Everyone 2015
Dust doesn't have to have zero players to be dead. dust was "dead" development wise when they reduces the team to a skeleton crew.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
2
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:37:00 -
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Not with the way it's optimized, that's for sure.
What? Am I mad? Why do you ask?
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jordy mack
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
612
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:48:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:General Mosquito wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:just as the ps3 will never give a stable frames per second, dust will never be ported... You never know, CCP could be sitting around the table talking about it now. They've been talking about it since Uprising 1.3. That was when they gutted the team and started work on Legion. So maybe, just maybe, if they hadn't have pulled the team to work on vaporware project x, we might have gotten to a better place regarding client performance. Sadly, CCP never even tried before firing the team, and splitting those who remained onto the mobile/VR project and the skeleton crew for dust. But I am with Ghosts. Dust won't get ported, and it won't get a reboot on another platform. The thing is deader than dead. We are just playing through the last act. DUST is dead! - Everyone, 2013 DUST is really dead! - Everyone, 2014 Come on guys, trust us, this game is dead! - Everyone 2015 dust wasnt really dead in 2013. 2014 a little but there was still many PC fights going on. 2015 in the other hand oh my god PC has like zero competition it is laughable how disorganized people play nowadays. Once i see the loss of key core players in a game that is when it is time to fear the worst.
so the old pc elitists are sad/have quit, this can only be a good thing for the majority of the player base.
Less QQ more PewPew
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WARxion ForDUST
Dead Man's Game
356
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:04:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:
DUST is dead! - Everyone, 2013 DUST is really dead! - Everyone, 2014 Come on guys, trust us, this game is dead! - Everyone 2015
Dust doesn't have to have zero players to be dead.
You are right, DUST will be dead when CCP will announce that there won't be any future updates to the game. DUST will be dead when you will need to spend at least 10 minutes waiting for public contracts.
None of those cases exists, even with low player base (old console, old engine) the game is profitable for the company, enjoyable for the players.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
72
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:11:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:
You are right, DUST will be dead when CCP will announce that there won't be any future updates to the game. DUST will be dead when you will need to spend at least 10 minutes waiting for public contracts.
None of those cases exists, even with low player base (old console, old engine) the game is profitable for the company, enjoyable for the players.
First, 10 minute pub queues are already here.
Second, they already said no more updates, then backtracked(presumably around the time they killed Legion). Does that make Dust undead?
Finally, just because the game is currently turning an operating profit does not mean that it hasn't been a loss for CCP over the longer term. The only reason why they are turning an operating profit is because they cut staffing levels back to match player payments.
When player counts go up, then maybe you can pretend that Dust hasn't been buried for a year rotting in the ground.
General Butt Naked - Biomassed
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
8
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:38:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I've been dealing with it for 3 years.... I have as well, people just expect to much from CCP... having stable frame rate is not expecting much.
When i play a game i expect it to work, and that is not to much.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
I'm kind of a big deal.
Get Dust ISK Here
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
72
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:54:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I've been dealing with it for 3 years.... I have as well, people just expect to much from CCP... having stable frame rate is not expecting much. When i play a game i expect it to work, and that is not to much.
So much this.
That people want to excuse CCP for shoddy work, when they chose to strip staff off for Legion is a little foolish to me.
CCP made a choice to cut expenses and increase the monetization options. Judging them based on that choice is perfectly reasonable.
General Butt Naked - Biomassed
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go.
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Skihids
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:59:00 -
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It's on life support with the family standing around waiting for the end.
There has been some improvement, most notably for me the suit tiericide, but without a port in sight we are fighting in our last clone. Once this clone dies of old age we will cease to exist.
How much more life does the PS3 have in it? I really don't know, but it is finite. |
tffvbhb
Team Bukkakke
10
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Posted - 2015.07.12 15:39:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:You want stable Frames? Then wait until the game ported to a better platform. The PS3 will never give the game stable Frames. #DealWithIt for now... You don't know lag until you play ps3 version of fallout new vegas and all dlcs the low frames on dust is still 20 times faster |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
884
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Posted - 2015.07.12 16:02:00 -
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I've rarely dealt with frame drops. Something's wrong with most PS3 or maybe age.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.07.12 16:10:00 -
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As of December Sony is cancelling support for the PS3. That will be the "deathknell" for most games on this platform. With no support it severely limits what can be done.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
278
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Posted - 2015.07.12 16:34:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:You want stable Frames? Then wait until the game ported to a better platform. The PS3 will never give the game stable Frames. #DealWithIt for now... Still a fun game. The one reason I hope for a PS4 port is a new upcoming player base (more people buying the system) but the hardware capabilities are superior. Fingers are crossed. |
deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.07.12 17:04:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:
You are right, DUST will be dead when CCP will announce that there won't be any future updates to the game. DUST will be dead when you will need to spend at least 10 minutes waiting for public contracts.
None of those cases exists, even with low player base (old console, old engine) the game is profitable for the company, enjoyable for the players.
First, 10 minute pub queues are already here. Second, they already said no more updates, then backtracked(presumably around the time they killed Legion). Does that make Dust undead? Finally, just because the game is currently turning an operating profit does not mean that it hasn't been a loss for CCP over the longer term. The only reason why they are turning an operating profit is because they cut staffing levels back to match player payments. When player counts go up, then maybe you can pretend that Dust hasn't been buried for a year rotting in the ground.
10 minute + waits for pub matches is very real.
Who cares about updates. Look at player counts and look at what has actually been accomplished since FF14. I believe that decline in player count to be increasingly apparent due to a drop in new players coming in to replace players going out but I don't have access to that type of information.
You make a very valid point on operating profit versus overall profit.
Considering CCP had to sell $20M in convertible bonds, which are said to have been converted, to pay for Dust I would call it a slim chance that Dust ever pulls off an overall profit. It can do it if those bonds were not converted but if they got turned into stock it is a very different story.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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Sardonk Eternia
Tiny Universe
349
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Posted - 2015.07.12 19:47:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:You want stable Frames? Then wait until the game ported to a better platform. The PS3 will never give the game stable Frames. #DealWithIt for now...
Some matches have a perfectly acceptable frame rate. Other games have great frame rates. It's possible. CCP is making progress.
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The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Skihids
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.12 19:50:00 -
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CCP never managed to integrate DUST and EVE in a meaningful way which left its main customer base uninterested or outright hostile to the FPS. They have to cater to that large fan base that sees every Kroner spent on DUST as stolen from their game.
I don't think that a PS4 port would change that perception. A PC port just might, but with PL shelved that isn't likely to happen.
It was a fun run we had from Beta to the present, with wild hopes, deep frustration, and some great matches with treasured corp mates, but it's coming to an end. I dropped around $300 on the game through booster packs and I figure that I got my money's worth. I'm back after a year's absence to play it out to the end while I wait for the next big thing to get excited about. If you are a PC user I believe that will arrive right about when the last clone dies. |
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