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Mina Longstrike wrote:

DozersMouse XIII wrote:

Mina Longstrike wrote:

DozersMouse XIII wrote:

Mina Longstrike wrote:

I know about the apex serpentis scout exploit too, does that mean I condone exploiting it dozer? That's the exact leap of logic you're making.

In any case, I find it amusing that you of all people (with your incredible amounts of isk and what 1500+ kubo cannons) are butthurt over being 'impaired' in your ability to do something... especially when that something is take advantage of an exploit or be punished for participating in said exploit.

Bottom line

If your gonna fight the good fight and speak up bout the serpent scouts

Then speak up bout the glitched boosters we all know about also

And somehow I'm not according to you? I said glitched boosters are bad, I said I don't condone it. How do you get the opposite message out of that?

Because you've known about it as long as everyone else

Yet you only "don't condone it" til I mentioned it

I cant prove you have benefited from this glitch

And you can't prove you haven't

I don't need to disprove it, because of a simple little thing called the burden of proof... a person asserting a position (eg. you claiming that I have benefited from the glitched booster) bears the weight of proving it. It's far easier to create fallacious statements than it is to disprove them, which is why 'fallacious' statements must be made not fallacious before they're worth being considered.

And maybe contrary to popular belief, I don't jam my opinions down peoples throats at every opportunity. When comes to how STF operates I speak my opinion because it is my responsibility to, when it comes to people spreading misinformation I speak up because it should be everyone's job to counter misinformation and ignorance. But about plenty of other more private issues, I don't speak up because either no one cares what I think of say the BDSM community or they're not interested in listening to my opinion on say pc vs console (or a more pertinent example, the exploitation of something that isn't working properly but is unlikely to have any actual consequences).

By your logic I can confidently assert that you are pedophile, and while I cannot prove that you are.... you cannot prove that you aren't. allegedy.

This is as absurd and slanderous as your example, that's why we don't deal with these statements. While we'd both like to be right about things, My position is actually correct, yours is not.

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GeorgeN76 Eden Claims Corp 97	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:09:00 - [31] - Quote Please explain this glitched booster! Scouts and Swarms
DozersMouse XIII Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:13:00 - [32] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: I know about the apex serpentis scout exploit too, does that mean I condone exploiting it dozer? That's the exact leap of logic you're making. In any case, I find it amusing that you of all people (with your incredible amounts of isk and what 1500+ kubo cannons) are butthurt over being 'impaired' in your ability to do something... especially when that something is take advantage of an exploit or be punished for participating in said exploit. Bottom line If your gonna fight the good fight and speak up bout the serpent scouts Then speak up bout the glitched boosters we all know about also And somehow I'm not according to you? I said glitched boosters are bad, I said I don't condone it. How do you get the opposite message out of that? Because you've known about it as long as everyone else Yet you only "don't condone it" til I mentioned it I cant prove you have benefited from this glitch And you can't prove you haven't addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:13:00 - [33] - Quote GeorgeN76 wrote: Please explain this glitched booster! Plain and simple, a single booster is giving far more LP than it should. I am not sure if it's only on wins or if it works on losses too, but there is honestly nothing too it other than it giving too much. I suspect that instead of increasing payout by 1.25x (aka +25%) someone messed up and it increases payout by 2.25x (+125%). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
GeorgeN76 Eden Claims Corp 97	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:21:00 - [34] - Quote All that back and forth over that? =ƒÿ¢ the cost of a coffee and bagel. Scouts and Swarms
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:22:00 - [35] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: I know about the apex serpentis scout exploit too, does that mean I condone exploiting it dozer? That's the exact leap of logic you're making. In any case, I find it amusing that you of all people (with your incredible amounts of isk and what 1500+ kubo cannons) are butthurt over being 'impaired' in your ability to do something... especially when that something is take advantage of an exploit or be punished for participating in said exploit. Bottom line If your gonna fight the good fight and speak up bout the serpent scouts Then speak up bout the glitched boosters we all know about also And somehow I'm not according to you? I said glitched boosters are bad, I said I don't condone it. How do you get the opposite message out of that? Because you've known about it as long as everyone else Yet you only "don't condone it" til I mentioned it I cant prove you have benefited from this glitch And you can't prove you haven't I don't need to disprove it, because of a simple little thing called the burden of proof... a person asserting a position (eg. you claiming that I have benefited from the glitched booster) bears the weight of proving it. It's far easier to create fallacious statements than it is to disprove them, which is why 'fallacious' statements must be made not fallacious before they're worth being considered. And maybe contrary to popular belief, I don't jam my opinions down peoples throats at every opportunity. When comes to how STF operates I speak my opinion because it is my responsibility to, when it comes to people spreading misinformation I speak up because it should be everyone's job to counter misinformation and ignorance. But about plenty of other more private issues, I don't speak up because either no one cares what I think of say the BDSM community or they're not interested in listening to my opinion on say pc vs console (or a more pertinent example, the exploitation of something that isn't working properly but is unlikely to have any actual consequences). By your logic I can confidently assert that you are pedophile, and while I cannot prove that you are.... you cannot prove that you aren't. allegedy. This is as absurd and slanderous as your example, that's why we don't deal with these statements. While we'd both like to be right about things, My position is actually correct, yours is not. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
DozersMouse XIII Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:44:00 - [36] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: I know about the apex serpentis scout exploit too, does that mean I condone exploiting it dozer? That's the exact leap of logic you're making. In any case, I find it amusing that you of all people (with your incredible amounts of isk and what 1500+ kubo cannons) are butthurt over being 'impaired' in your ability to do something... especially when that something is take advantage of an exploit or be punished for participating in said exploit. Bottom line If your gonna fight the good fight and speak up bout the serpent scouts Then speak up bout the glitched boosters we all know about also And somehow I'm not according to you? I said glitched boosters are bad, I said I don't condone it. How do you get the opposite message out of that? Because you've known about it as long as everyone else Yet you only "don't condone it" til I mentioned it I cant prove you have benefited from this glitch And you can't prove you haven't I don't need to disprove it, because of a simple little thing called the burden of proof... a person asserting a position (eg. you claiming that I have benefited from the glitched booster) bears the weight of proving it. It's far easier to create fallacious statements than it is to disprove them, which is why 'fallacious' statements must be made not fallacious before they're worth being considered. And maybe contrary to popular belief, I don't jam my opinions down peoples throats at every opportunity. When comes to how STF operates I speak my opinion because it is my responsibility to, when it comes to people spreading misinformation I speak up because it should be everyone's job to counter misinformation and ignorance. But about plenty of other more private issues, I don't speak up because either no one cares what I think of say the BDSM community or they're not interested in listening to my opinion on say pc vs console (or a more pertinent example, the exploitation of something that isn't working properly but is unlikely to have any actual consequences). By your logic I can confidently assert that you are pedophile, and while I cannot prove that you are.... you cannot prove that you aren't. allegedy. This is as absurd and slanderous as your example, that's why we don't deal with these statements. While we'd both like to be right about things, My position is actually correct, yours is not. Your like the mom that's watches but doesn't do or say **** til put on the spot. addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.08 07:49:00 - [37] - Quote Maybe there's some correlation between your 'revelation' and the fact that I'm an introverted misanthropist and don't really like people or care for their bull** Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 925	Posted - 2015.07.08 08:10:00 - [38] - Quote Give me a new toy from a new progression tab and not expect me to ** with it? How bout dont ** up and put it in the game bruh.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 338	Posted - 2015.07.08 08:16:00 - [39] - Quote What if I sold 5 to someone and we both and everyone in our chat knew what was going on and how to get them.. and he willingly bought them..... and i may have sent them to all of my alts and buddies as gifts ect and because I didn't really know what was going on.... I may have distributed some to complete strangers for the lols and to be nice :D Cant wait for the punishment lays in bed IM READY FOR MY PUNISHMENT Rattati SENPAI!!! may I add, I wish for CCP Frame to also punish me as he is by far my favorite CCP member <3 xxo BUILD MORE FARMS!
VAHZZ No Context 3	Posted - 2015.07.08 08:20:00 - [40] - Quote Fristname Family name wrote: What if I sold 5 to someone and we both and everyone in our chat knew what was going on and how to get them.. and he willingly bought them..... and i may have sent them to all of my alts and buddies as gifts ect and because I didn't really know what was going on.... I may have distributed some to complete strangers for the lols and to be nice :D Cant wait for the punishment lays in bed IM READY FOR MY PUNISHMENT Rattati SENPAI!!! may I add, I wish for CCP Frame to also punish me as he is by far my favorite CCP member <3 xxo CCP Guard is my senpai. Founder of the Sanctuary of Tacos. GJR Approved

Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 310	Posted - 2015.07.08 08:22:00 - [41] - Quote Slightly Relevant Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.08 08:36:00 - [42] - Quote Very game hurting glitch//bug : no reaction from CCP Bug that allows you to claim aurum item : panic in CCP basement, immediately plans of fixing. CCP is sooo professional. Loyal to The State Member of State Protectorate // Belongs to Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
jace silencerww MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH 181	Posted - 2015.07.08 09:50:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. Wait what about the players who did not know about that and brought the suit not knowing. what happens to their isk? what is it gone forever? a friend brought anout 6 over the day all for about 20 milion total then send me one in trade for a few weapons. fair deal right? then what I lost the weapons and he lost the isk since your taking the suit from us that we brought and traded for?
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.08 09:55:00 - [44] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. Wait what about the players who did not know about that and brought the suit not knowing. what happens to their isk? It's probably lost. Maybe. You should always be hesitant about trading on patch day. Hell I was hesitant to trade some skins from one of my alts to another because patch day. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 98	Posted - 2015.07.08 10:06:00 - [45] - Quote see that's the problem, there's 5 of them, I would reckon that 99% of people if they were to claim 1 would just use that 1 suit for personal use, I love all the free stuff, keys get used straight away, warbarge items are never full before I claim them so I just went through being at level 5 in gallente scouts and was like I'll never trade or sell any in fact I haven't even used 1 yet, just claimed it. if it's an issue to even use or create a loadout with the apex then say and I won't, can they be discarded like any BPO can accidentally be sold for a small sum? if so then that's how it will go done rather than risk my account
Kinky Fat Bastard OMFGZOMBIESRUN 35	Posted - 2015.07.08 10:30:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. Really? Cos back in closed beta you certainly failed to remove all the EVE isk that got transferred.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.08 11:28:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. I shall point out that "claiming" that specific apex suit cannot really be counted as exploit since you do not have to do any shenanigans to get it. All you have to do is just get to the progression tab and claim it and thats it. More like a flawed UI design by the developer. As you should know this game is profit driven by the players (aka greed) so you should not burst out in a rage to players who traded them for profit. On the other hand im fine with it if you take em away. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 340	Posted - 2015.07.08 11:44:00 - [48] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Slightly Relevant ROFLMAO AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHhaha lmamo lmao lmao lmao im crying XD 8tabs of it at oncce XD LMAO BUILD MORE FARMS!
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 835	Posted - 2015.07.08 11:49:00 - [49] - Quote Hope this get fixed.. Just next time if we are mistakenly going to claim a few suits make them Caldari. Still, as a all Caldari player. it has been fun trying out the Gallentee scout setup even if I feel real dirty doing so being in a enemy skin. Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
axis alpha Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 737	Posted - 2015.07.08 11:50:00 - [50] - Quote Lololol remove all isk from all the wrong doers! Do it! I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.

Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 340	Posted - 2015.07.08 12:02:00 - [51] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Lololol remove all isk from all the wrong doers! Do it! NEVVVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW BOUT WE REMOVE ALL BUT 200K OF YOUR ISKKK AND GIVE YOU A MINJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the only person who bought mine was one who bought 5 and knew about everything. he gave 4back as we were plotting ** in a chat XD LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO BUILD MORE FARMS!**
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 397	Posted - 2015.07.08 12:15:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: some people are very concerned about punishments for trading them around? Are there any planned or will they just be removed because it was obviously not an intended thing? In EVE Online, innocent mistakes are not punished, hiding paper trail severely Bender: Everybody was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 968	Posted - 2015.07.08 12:20:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. But that PC lag is wery wery elusive lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 56	Posted - 2015.07.08 12:28:00 - [54] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Very game hurting glitch//bug : no reaction from CCP Bug that allows you to claim aurum item : panic in CCP basement, immediately plans of fixing. CCP is sooo professional. It's not just any old aurum item, it's an APEX suit, and repairing your relationship with paying customers as soon as possible seems pretty dang professional.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.08 13:04:00 - [55] - Quote Dzago Sevatarion wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Very game hurting glitch//bug : no reaction from CCP Bug that allows you to claim aurum item : panic in CCP basement, immediately plans of fixing. CCP is sooo professional. It's not just any old aurum item, it's an APEX suit, and repairing your relationship with paying customers as soon as possible seems pretty dang professional. Only professional cause of the theory that CCP would loose out on thousands of Gé¼/$. Cough "gal. research facility" cough. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Optimus Last Prime TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context 54	Posted - 2015.07.08 13:07:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. Rattati has back up plans... Very sneaky, good idea 01000100 01110101 01110011 01110100 00100000 00110101 00110001 00110100 -binary
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2	Posted - 2015.07.08 13:38:00 - [57] - Quote So that's what was going on in my corp chat yesterday... was wondering what they meant when they said the Serpent was bugged... huh... and you can finally trade skins now too? What? Am I mad? Why do you ask?
Jack the Rlpper TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context 215	Posted - 2015.07.08 13:48:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. Its your ******* fualt ratman I gave 1 to my gf to help her as a new player along with 2 corp mates to help them so how can you just punish us for your mistake. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +50 n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +60
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2	Posted - 2015.07.08 13:51:00 - [59] - Quote Jack the Rlpper wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. Its your ******* fualt ratman I gave 1 to my gf to help her as a new player along with 2 corp mates to help them so how can you just punish us for your mistake. I doubt you'd get punished for that, unless they sent what you gave them to other accounts and it started to look suspicious. Hopefully this will be handled fairly, given the fact that a lot of players probably traded these or gave them away to a number of accounts. What? Am I mad? Why do you ask?
Dust User Horizons' Edge No Context 2	Posted - 2015.07.08 13:55:00 - [60] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: jonny battles wrote: Get rid of the serpintene scout being that some people actually bought theres from trading we can track all players that used the claim function and track all trades of that item from that person to the next, and so on. Those that think they can outsmart by sending to more and more alts to hide their tracks are mistaken. And what about people that legitimately bought them because I bought one of these serpent scouts @ 20 mill after downtime Get bent.



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