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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:37:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Teeheehee NF attacked CORSY the butthurt from NF is real  You guys mass attacked us. Thank Dust User. Holy $hit I can't believe it's true. Yes, like the 'mass attack' (only 4 attacks really) was going to lead to the taking of every single district. Everyone said that you guys would take it seriously but I couldn't believe someone actually would. But you guys did( makes sense when you're a bunch of try hards who only recruit 2.5 kdr) and you, of course, are taking YAMAHs last district and probably crosys too. It doesn't help that you lied about the battle saying it was going to be a (fun practice match) to a new corp. Go attack people on your level like 0.H Buddro, when you mass attack this it what happens. I'll guarantee there were no plans to go after No Context before we were attacked. Is the such a problem with having so many PCs? Just trying to have a day full of good, competitive battles. We attacked you, didn't take one district. I'd be fine if you guys attacked us just for the funzies, but to take all our districts....#NoHonor. This is why I would never want to be apart of any major corp. They take the game too dam serious
Were we supposed to send a cease and desist before we retaliated an act of war? O.o?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:48:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Personally, I'd rather help you guys out than take your districts. But I'm just a dude in the corp. I don't do leadership anymore. I was told by Anon that NF's aim wasn't to take newer corps' districts, but to continue to attack them to give them 'experience'. After the newer corps could give a decent fight, NF would try to take their districts for real. 
By my knowledge (I'm not a director so take this at face value) it goes like this:
Corporations that field groups primarily of ringers don't deserve the district if a corporation that legitimately wants to get into PC can have it. We'll flip it if they legitimately cannot field a team that consists of -a majority of their own people-. Groups like The Titans, we flipped because they had -ONE- person from their corporation in their defending match (I have three full length match recordings as proof) and their corporation, at the time, only had 12 people (they now have 17).
Why should that -one- guy have that district when a new, budding corporation can rise up and -actually defend it-..? Why should he have the right to farm that district for DK for his own uses?
So, yes, that is true - we will attack newer corps to give them experience but we will only flip districts during war-time (which is the basis of this thread) and when the corporation holding the district don't field their own people with which to defend it. It isn't about honor, or e-bushido, or anything of the sort; we're just giving entities that are interested in getting into PC a legitimate chance without having to hit up some alt-holder district that will pull in a bunch of veteran ringers.
But like I said, no a director, take it at face value.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.09 01:08:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:By my knowledge (I'm not a director so take this at face value) it goes like this: Corporations that field groups primarily of ringers don't deserve the district if a corporation that legitimately wants to get into PC can have it. We'll flip it if they legitimately cannot field a team that consists of -a majority of their own people-. Groups like The Titans, we flipped because they had -ONE- person from their corporation in their defending match (I have three full length match recordings as proof) and their corporation, at the time, only had 12 people (they now have 17). Why should that -one- guy have that district when a new, budding corporation can rise up and -actually defend it-..? Why should he have the right to farm that district for DK for his own uses? So, yes, that is true - we will attack newer corps to give them experience but we will only flip districts during war-time (which is the basis of this thread) and when the corporation holding the district don't field their own people with which to defend it. It isn't about honor, or e-bushido, or anything of the sort; we're just giving entities that are interested in getting into PC a legitimate chance without having to hit up some alt-holder district that will pull in a bunch of veteran ringers. But like I said, no a director, take it at face value. the match I was a part of was fielded by members of Corrosive synergy we only had one district and it was flipped the match was in the favor of NF which was fielding some of their best members not to mention that there were other problems such as information being leaked that gave NF a significant advantage they did not let up and kept on attacking, there was no warning of any sort and the intention seemed to be to flip the district, it may have not gone that way with other corps but there are those that were simply taken advantage of, I did not intend to get involved in these childish affairs but it seems that NF is full of ignorance perhaps not by many but a significant few the excuse that was used was that the alliance had launched a mass attack against NF (if I am not wrong NF wanted more fights? is that not exactly what they got?) which in turned caused someone to get upset? so they began to attack any affiliates of the alliance, mind you I am just now getting into PC and wanted to share my experiences then what happens is that members of NF (and others which I suspect are spy alts of NF as well) came here to troll and spread their agenda
Yeah, I'm aware we gave it our all, I was in the match as a Sniper and I have a video on youtube showing a video montage of that work in a derivative manner.
I'm going to be up front with you, I have no idea about any information being leaked, I just go in the matches and ruin lives. No-one got upset. We saw a bunch of attacks on our Corporate Contracts from Horizons' Edge (we're in a match with them right now btw) and we reacted accordingly. They attacked our alliance, we attacked yours.
The only thing I can say is to pick better friends or leave as soon as your current ones drag you into their fight.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.09 01:28:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
Yeah, I'm aware we gave it our all, I was in the match as a Sniper and I have a video on youtube showing a video montage of that work in a derivative manner.
I'm going to be up front with you, I have no idea about any information being leaked, I just go in the matches and ruin lives. No-one got upset. We saw a bunch of attacks on our Corporate Contracts from Horizons' Edge (we're in a match with them right now btw) and we reacted accordingly. They attacked our alliance, we attacked yours.
The only thing I can say is to pick better friends or leave as soon as your current ones drag you into their fight.
like I have stated I am here on behalf of myself, I am in allegiance only to my own, I am currently getting involved in PC because I believe it will further my career as a merc and it has friends? I am a solo player I go where I please I don't have ties to any of the members of CS although I do respect them and their goals and will do my best to help them out with whatever endeavors they which to pursue also getting dragged into fights is what PC is all about, this is war I do not expect mercy however decency is appreciated meaning if you are going to give your word then you should intend to keep it
.... What word? And can you provide links, sources, reference material, etc of said word? Because whatever it is I don't have a clue about it and I'm at least somewhat knowledgeable of what goes on in NF.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:08:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
.... What word? And can you provide links, sources, reference material, etc of said word? Because whatever it is I don't have a clue about it and I'm at least somewhat knowledgeable of what goes on in NF.
I am referring to the statement that said NF would not flip districts from small corps that could field their own members if it was their last district, you yourself said that and so have others
I also said (if you read the rest of the post) that there are exceptions for war-time, which is what this is. Your corporation is part of an alliance that committed an act of war against us by attacking not one, not a few, but -ALL- of our districts. If that rule still applied than any alliance could mask with alt corps and use that as an excuse.
You can't honestly expect that those rules would still apply in a situation like this. Put yourself in our situation and consider that.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:51:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
I also said (if you read the rest of the post) that there are exceptions for war-time, which is what this is. Your corporation is part of an alliance that committed an act of war against us by attacking not one, not a few, but -ALL- of our districts. If that rule still applied than any alliance could mask with alt corps and use that as an excuse.
You can't honestly expect that those rules would still apply in a situation like this. Put yourself in our situation and consider that.
yeah I can see where you are coming from but you yourself said you are not the leader, do you speak on behalf of yourself or your corporation/alliance? all I am seeing is excuses, if a corp can lead an alt corp and can defend and maintain it is that masking? with the changes that have come to PC they would have to not only maintain the alts in that corp but the corp itself as a whole, and the rule of fielding their own players would still hold up basically I have put myself in your situation and it's disappointing me to see that someone with the potential to help players out make the game more interesting and fun (as games should be) is instead wasting time arguing for something that shouldn't have been a problem to begin with, so what they attacked you? ok you should be more then capable of defending yourself's after all the whole point of getting new corps into PC was for the good fights and defending is a part of war keeping this argument going is not going to get you anywhere, perhaps diplomatic actions could be taken but I doubt that will happen at this point, instead of finding excuses you could give possible solutions and instead of trying to get me to quit or go elsewhere you could offer advice, I did after ask for it and not this meaningless argument that you are so stubborn to try to push on me, I do know that there are recordings of the PC and they serve to further prove everything I have said
It isn't an excuse and you shouldn't have to hear it from our CEO - it is a basic, unspoken rule of war that many corporations and alliances follow. If your alliance is at war, you can and rightly should expect to follow suit, be decimated, or leave. If your corporation didn't want to be a part of that fight than you should have taken every available means and made every available effort to contact our leadership, explain the situation, and then vacate that alliance as soon as possible.
But you're right, keeping this argument going is not going to get me anywhere because you're essentially saying that it is wrong for us to defend ourselves against an aggressor and that it is wrong to naturally assume that those fly under that aggressor's banner are in allegiance with them. So, good luck with that mentality. Welcome to New Eden.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 04:56:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
It isn't an excuse and you shouldn't have to hear it from our CEO - it is a basic, unspoken rule of war that many corporations and alliances follow. If your alliance is at war, you can and rightly should expect to follow suit, be decimated, or leave. If your corporation didn't want to be a part of that fight than you should have taken every available means and made every available effort to contact our leadership, explain the situation, and then vacate that alliance as soon as possible.
But you're right, keeping this argument going is not going to get me anywhere because you're essentially saying that it is wrong for us to defend ourselves against an aggressor and that it is wrong to naturally assume that those fly under that aggressor's banner are in allegiance with them. So, good luck with that mentality. Welcome to New Eden.
see you already screwed yourself in your logic, there are no rules in war, not to mention that there was some actions taken on our behalf to avoid conflict even here in this post yet you still come to pester I am not new to the ways of New Eden but you surely seem to be with all the excuses you are coming up with ("unspoken rule of war")
Remember that the next time a corporation attacks you. We will. We'll be certain to remind you not to attack the other corporations in the aggressor alliance. Wouldn't want you to seem like a hypocrite and all.
For a brief moment, I was seriously going to advocate to the brass to re-evaluate the situation and maybe provide you guys some districts, but given this awful bait attempt you can officially kiss that goodbye.
Peace, broseph.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 17:17:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:I'm going to have to step in here and say stop.
That's enough. Prove yourself on the battlefield next time we are fighting for our next district.
On the part of my beloved corp I am sorry for all this bleh that is going on and I am sure Sicerly is only frustrated with lag and just people not seeking to understand. It happens to everyone, hell, its like talking to your parents. They see one thing even though you're saying another.
Again, sorry for this, this is not what our corp is about, this here drama.
LUGMOS, hit me up via in-game mail bro
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Posted - 2015.07.11 13:34:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:zDemoncake wrote:
Payouts are roughly even on both sides. Rattati (I believe) stated somewhere that winning the battle is the real payout. (Or something)
but if you manage to win flip the district and all and can sustain it you can profit from selling off clones and such making it fairly profitable for those that hord districts all to themselves
#misconceptions
We haven't had profit from selling clones in almost a year. Up until PC 2.0, as in less than a week, you didn't get any benefit from having districts apart from throwing more clones at people with which to fight and win ISK. It was an artificial conflict generator that was pointless and stupid.
Even with PC 2.0 we can only sell clones for DK, which is about damn worthless without a DK market. All we can do is just stock up on DK and hope something good comes out of it otherwise it'll just be another jesus feature meant to jumpstart PC but ultimately have no value.
But feel free to chalk that up to me being high and mighty over you expressing your opinion.
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