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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:18:00 -
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So, I've been playing(?) since open beta, and I have always sucked. Like those black holes they predict exist at the centers of galaxies suck. I honestly sometimes think that there's something I'm missing. Lately, it has gotten even worse, and all of my numbers are slowly decaying beyond the truly pathetic levels I had carefully maintained them at for so long.
I could chalk most of it up to almost never squadding, and rightfully so, I would wager. However, I cannot stand squadding. So there's that. I do notice that when I do die, it's predominantly not to a squad, but just to some dude with a gun that shoots me with little of no-one about.
So, I am going to try to unlearn what I have learned and ask:
What solo rig will let even me, the worst shooter in DUST, hold his own in the general melange of gameplay?
The brick-dumb simpler the rig, the better, if possible.
I thank you.
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:32:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:So, I've been playing(?) since open beta, and I have always sucked. Like those black holes they predict exist at the centers of galaxies suck. I honestly sometimes think that there's something I'm missing. Lately, it has gotten even worse, and all of my numbers are slowly decaying beyond the truly pathetic levels I had carefully maintained them at for so long.
I could chalk most of it up to almost never squadding, and rightfully so, I would wager. However, I cannot stand squadding. So there's that. I do notice that when I do die, it's predominantly not to a squad, but just to some dude with a gun that shoots me with little of no-one about.
So, I am going to try to unlearn what I have learned and ask:
What solo rig will let even me, the worst shooter in DUST, hold his own in the general melange of gameplay?
The brick-dumb simpler the rig, the better, if possible.
I thank you.
Demolitions expert. Logi + 2 Nanohives + RE's + Grenades + Mass driver
With 2 nanohives (which means 12 total), you can spam out 96 RE's or 90 RE's and about 14 grenades without ever hitting a supply depot. *edit* This is using standard Nanohives, standard Grenades, and F/45 Remote Explosives
Spam the crap out of both of them and use them as a primary weapon instead of a secondary tool. Mass drivers do area damage so you don't have to be precise with your shots.
I can almost guarantee you will never get through all those RE's (the most I ever got through in 1 game before getting popped is around 65-70.) I racked up 12-13 kills since I was pretty much spamming an entry way to keep the other team at bay. They would throw a grenade and blow it up, I would throw another RE down and wait. Most people stop the grenades after 3 or 4 RE's because they are not expecting you to have anymore.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:37:00 -
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What do you run? Run starter fits till you see improvement.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
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Scout and Assault GK.0
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:40:00 -
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Gallente "Centurion" Commando APEX, swap standard light dmg mod for complex.
Kill all the tanks.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:42:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What do you run? Run starter fits till you see improvement. I really don't have that kind of time.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:47:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What do you run? Run starter fits till you see improvement. I really don't have that kind of time.
The. You will go down further. Improve your slayer/survival role with starter fits to not lose isk and improve survivablity. ITS THE ONLY WAY. When you are ready, start with basic gear, move to advanced, and when you are truly ready, use proto.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:50:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What do you run? Run starter fits till you see improvement. I really don't have that kind of time. The. You will go down further. Improve your slayer/survival role with starter fits to not lose isk and improve survivablity. ITS THE ONLY WAY. When you are ready, start with basic gear, move to advanced, and when you are truly ready, use proto. I have a half-billy ISK to spend, and I've been playing for 2.5 years. I'm not going to get any better, I just need a rig that forgives that as much as possible.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:53:00 -
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Here's something I've noticed: I've switched around gear a little here and there, and just when I feel I've found a sweet spot in suit optimization, I hit a wall of diminishing returns. It vexes me.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.07.04 02:40:00 -
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Why won't you squad? Do you not have friends? Is the only reason why I squad. To chat it up with buddies.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Private Part's
sticky green's
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Posted - 2015.07.04 02:45:00 -
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I run solo all the time my goto setup is an caldari assault c/1 with 3 complex shieled extenders 1 complex shield recharger in the highs enhanced ferroscale plate complex profile dampened k-2 nanohive m1 locus grenade klo-1 scrambler pistol and sb-39 rail rifle.
I have a lot of success with this most effective when you flank the enemy try to find higher ground with some cover and you'll be raking in the kills always check your flank/escape routes someone will come for you but if you spot them first you can add an extra kill or two before searching for a new position.
when you get dangerously low on ammo or are in a good position to grenade spam throw down 2 hives just remember that the hives will probably show up on your enemies radar so resupply and use it as bait I have used my hives to lure red's into my kill zone.
always utilize cover be aware of your stamina and surroundings is part of this make sure you have full stamina before running long distances in the open or between cover never stay still for to long always assume that there's a sniper trying to line up a head shot on you so always check out the perches where one might be most times you'll spot them before they spot you and that's pretty much like a free kill most of the time.
Know where the majority of your team is and what there doing. The most favorable thing they can be doing for you is a head on clash them and the enemy forming a line then all you have to do is get into position behind them and it's like shooting fish in a barrel don't forget to take out the uplinks before you give away your position this way your team has a good chance to overrun them. Also another good way to get easy kills is when your teams getting stomped and the enemy has corralled them into a small area you can use the same tactic just keep moving and hiding at optimal distance most of the enemy won't want to chase after a lone gun man when they have a ton of easy target's the one's that do make sure they have to cover open terrain to get to you that way you can mow them down.
Hacking is tempting you'll find yourself a lot of times around a hackable object just remember your usually trying to be sneaky when trying to get into position it's a good ideal most of the time not to broadcast your position but if it's a cru and you don't want your enemies spawning around you or your trying to set up a secondary area for your team go for it. You can also use hacked objects as bait or to try and draw off some of the opposing team away from the fight which can also help your team.
Be aware of the scrambler rifle one charged shot can drop your shields and put you into armor this weapon is the bane of the shield tank also when fighting at close range use your pistol to drop there shields then switch to your rail rifle to finish them off.
There are a bunch of other things that are useful to know when playing solo but I'll leave that for you to figure out I'm itching to shoot someone in the face. |
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Magnus Belmont
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.04 03:40:00 -
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You seriously need to find a good corp with team work that you can squad up with. You would be amazed at how one extra guy watching your back and killing that scout rolling up on you helps.
Not to mention someone scanning/repping you, all the intel you receive from one another, is really invaluable and gives you an edge on your enemy.
This is a multiplayer game and not taking advantage of having friends, your limiting what you can do and handy capping yourself needlessly.
Even if you do squad and you run by yourself on the field, you can call out for a needle or ammo. Maybe get warned a tank is heading your way so you can take cover. Your buddy can also alert you to snipers and scout locations, you can relay back where the enemy is when it's time to drop an OB.
Seriously, you should consider making friends and just suck up your pride or shyness... or what ever :3 |
gekko k
Grundstein Automation Property of Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2015.07.04 03:52:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:The brick-dumb simpler the rig, the better, if possible.
Hello Onesimus. Mr D here. I solo 99% of the time and what you are looking for is the galmando. Shoot out from cover at a 45 degree angle so you don't get flanked, and do plenty of 360s to check for shotgunner turds.
Use any of the assorted assault rifles, max out your galmando skills and AR, and upgrade your warbarge amunition facility.
It's the easiest battlefront suit for a solo survivor if you ask me.
Peace, bro. |
Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy No Context
493
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Posted - 2015.07.04 05:13:00 -
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I feel your pain but since I play solo 90% of the time I have learned my fair share of tactics
first of all when you are playing solo being able to spot others before they spot you is favorable in almost every situation
second use the AR its your best friend as a solo player engage outside of their max scan range if possible (learn these if you haven't already)
use cheap fittings low health is ok to have as long as you can dispatch at least one player each time you die, your favored play style should be kept in mind I try to stick with high alpha assassins as a solo player the best way to help your team is to kill high KD players and other high priority targets such as squad leads or Gal logi perma scanners (if you can distract these long enough your team can gain some leeway to fight back)
you can try to play two ways stay with your team and support them as much as possible or go around as a scout picking off stragglers and those pesky high priority targets
I can give you some simple fittings to try your luck with, I like to use scout fits with precision mods or damage mods and I have a proto minja on my alt that works wonders even when using the basic frame you can take most suits out and you are fast enough to get in and out of most situations
if you are staying with your team I suggest to go with an assault or a logi alternatively you could go commando but I doubt that would suit you if your aim is that bad
using the RR to tag people (fire in bursts) is a good way to get assist and to help your team out without having to have great aim or you can stick with the AR as it is easy to use and you can simply hip fire it so it doesnt require the best aim as long as you engage at reasonable ranges under 45m probably in your case
it doesn't really matter what faction you run with precision and dampening are your friend as a solo player, I recommend using precision mods on all your fittings and to try to get your scan precision under 27 as that will let you see almost everything other then good scouts, if you run an Amarr scout you can get it down to about 18 db I believe the caldari can get to about 20 or maybe 19? at proto only at adv the lowest you can get is 21 as for the amarr you can get the 18db with just the adv on the minmatar I recommend to use shield extenders instead as they get no bonus to any Ewar have lower hp and the fitting options aren't the best for it and you always want to go with kin cats on your lows but if you have trouble seeing precision mods can help on the Gallente stacking damp mods can get you under 18db at basic if your skills are maxed so you can use this to your advantage to take out those perma scan gal logies
the Caldari heavy/sentinel is one of the best solo tanks out there in my opinion the 1 second depleted shield delay allows you to clear rooms by popping in and out and with the high slots you can stack precision mods to get the jump on most frames even some scouts that think you are unaware of their presence(you can get the db to about 27 if I remember correctly) on these you want to place shield reg in the low slot to have your shield ready more often
all that being said I do recommend running with a squad even if its just a random one (as long as they are ok players) this can help you or them out by sharing assets and it makes it easier to have a group to stick with there is power in numbers and its easier to notice when a squad mate gets dropped then a random blue so it can keep you on your toes and give you an idea of what player on the enemy team is running and where they are not to mention that it gives you the option for your squad lead to use OB's alternatively you can run your own solo squad and if you make enough wp you can help your team out more
easy mode for vets if you are skilled into nades, Caldari logi (apex if you have it) adv nonohive and core locus nades keep the leash ( rep tool ) and the needle to keep your team up and ready to fight while farming points for OB's if possible, your hives will have much more clusters you can get about 5 nades out of a single hive at skill lvl 3 cal logi and more at proto I presume, but you can use these to clear out rooms easily so your team can push points and they take out most frames and can give you multiple kills if you know how to use them
if you want or need any more help let me know you can contact me in game if you need me and we can squad up so you can see first hand what a solo player can do (wont be anything too impressive most matches)
click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.04 05:18:00 -
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In the immortal words of Isai: "Don't get hit." |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.07.04 05:34:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:So, I've been playing(?) since open beta, and I have always sucked. Like those black holes they predict exist at the centers of galaxies suck. I honestly sometimes think that there's something I'm missing. Lately, it has gotten even worse, and all of my numbers are slowly decaying beyond the truly pathetic levels I had carefully maintained them at for so long.
I could chalk most of it up to almost never squadding, and rightfully so, I would wager. However, I cannot stand squadding. So there's that. I do notice that when I do die, it's predominantly not to a squad, but just to some dude with a gun that shoots me with little of no-one about.
So, I am going to try to unlearn what I have learned and ask:
What solo rig will let even me, the worst shooter in DUST, hold his own in the general melange of gameplay?
The brick-dumb simpler the rig, the better, if possible.
I thank you.
You haven't specified what you run or what your style is, so I'll just generalise my own experience as an average vet with a slowly climbing 1.18 KDR.
I use high alpha weapons and those that don't require aiming like a rifle does. I can't shoot with a rifle, for some reason I'm just no good at it. I followed Arkena's gallente assault guide and did not win the one on one's like I knew I should have done, and when I watch others' vids etc., I think to myself, dayum how the hell are they so accurate.
I also run predominantly scout, so my tactics usually involve being a sneaky bastard and getting the jump on people. High alpha weapons are great for this style. I would also say that you're always going to be at a disadvantage running solo - it's simply the nature of teamwork, even when there's just two of you. But you can still run with blues, or at least observe what they're doing to plan your own strategy.
Anyhow, the best sneaky suit is the Gallente scout - put a shotgun on that and sneak about the BF, shooting people in the back. The most fun suit, though to be honest I personally think it's one of the hardest suits to run, is the Min scout. But it is by far the most fun you can have in the game with a set of nova knives. Just prepare to be useless if they bring out low dB scans.
Minmando with mass driver and [insert another light weapon here] is also great fun and can be highly effective when you're defending / pushing with a bunch of blues.
Dunno if that's what you were looking for but you can always ignore it ;-) |
Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
169
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Posted - 2015.07.04 19:39:00 -
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I sure hope Thor doesn't find this thread rampantly spreading pro-solo tactics promoting non-squadding. It's bound to give him another ulcer, or worse, an aneurysm. |
demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.07.05 04:39:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What do you run? Run starter fits till you see improvement. I really don't have that kind of time. The. You will go down further. Improve your slayer/survival role with starter fits to not lose isk and improve survivablity. ITS THE ONLY WAY. When you are ready, start with basic gear, move to advanced, and when you are truly ready, use proto. I have a half-billy ISK to spend, and I've been playing for 2.5 years. I'm not going to get any better, I just need a rig that forgives that as much as possible. damn.... thats not much, time to start saving |
demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.07.05 04:41:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:I feel your pain but since I play solo 90% of the time I have learned my fair share of tactics
first of all when you are playing solo being able to spot others before they spot you is favorable in almost every situation
second use the AR its your best friend as a solo player engage outside of their max scan range if possible (learn these if you haven't already)
use cheap fittings low health is ok to have as long as you can dispatch at least one player each time you die, your favored play style should be kept in mind I try to stick with high alpha assassins as a solo player the best way to help your team is to kill high KD players and other high priority targets such as squad leads or Gal logi perma scanners (if you can distract these long enough your team can gain some leeway to fight back)
you can try to play two ways stay with your team and support them as much as possible or go around as a scout picking off stragglers and those pesky high priority targets
I can give you some simple fittings to try your luck with, I like to use scout fits with precision mods or damage mods and I have a proto minja on my alt that works wonders even when using the basic frame you can take most suits out and you are fast enough to get in and out of most situations
if you are staying with your team I suggest to go with an assault or a logi alternatively you could go commando but I doubt that would suit you if your aim is that bad
using the RR to tag people (fire in bursts) is a good way to get assist and to help your team out without having to have great aim or you can stick with the AR as it is easy to use and you can simply hip fire it so it doesnt require the best aim as long as you engage at reasonable ranges under 45m probably in your case
it doesn't really matter what faction you run with precision and dampening are your friend as a solo player, I recommend using precision mods on all your fittings and to try to get your scan precision under 27 as that will let you see almost everything other then good scouts, if you run an Amarr scout you can get it down to about 18 db I believe the caldari can get to about 20 or maybe 19? at proto only at adv the lowest you can get is 21 as for the amarr you can get the 18db with just the adv on the minmatar I recommend to use shield extenders instead as they get no bonus to any Ewar have lower hp and the fitting options aren't the best for it and you always want to go with kin cats on your lows but if you have trouble seeing precision mods can help on the Gallente stacking damp mods can get you under 18db at basic if your skills are maxed so you can use this to your advantage to take out those perma scan gal logies
the Caldari heavy/sentinel is one of the best solo tanks out there in my opinion the 1 second depleted shield delay allows you to clear rooms by popping in and out and with the high slots you can stack precision mods to get the jump on most frames even some scouts that think you are unaware of their presence(you can get the db to about 27 if I remember correctly) on these you want to place shield reg in the low slot to have your shield ready more often
all that being said I do recommend running with a squad even if its just a random one (as long as they are ok players) this can help you or them out by sharing assets and it makes it easier to have a group to stick with there is power in numbers and its easier to notice when a squad mate gets dropped then a random blue so it can keep you on your toes and give you an idea of what player on the enemy team is running and where they are not to mention that it gives you the option for your squad lead to use OB's alternatively you can run your own solo squad and if you make enough wp you can help your team out more
easy mode for vets if you are skilled into nades, Caldari logi (apex if you have it) adv nonohive and core locus nades keep the leash ( rep tool ) and the needle to keep your team up and ready to fight while farming points for OB's if possible, your hives will have much more clusters you can get about 5 nades out of a single hive at skill lvl 3 cal logi and more at proto I presume, but you can use these to clear out rooms easily so your team can push points and they take out most frames and can give you multiple kills if you know how to use them
if you want or need any more help let me know you can contact me in game if you need me and we can squad up so you can see first hand what a solo player can do (wont be anything too impressive most matches) all youve learned from solo play is to talk **** about things you know nothing about |
VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.05 04:55:00 -
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Ok, I did a test.
I created a new character, on a different PSN. Started from scratch. To see if I can hack it with just the starter fits. To be fair, VAHZZ still has the open beta starter fits, and the Gallente ones were horrible....
I ran the Amarr Medic starter fit.
First game, 20 kills, 10 assists, 4 deaths, i forgot the WP but I topped the leaderboards, in a medic starter fit.
Second game, 15 kills, 9 assists, 2 deaths, again, forgot the WPs but i barely topped the leaderboards that time.
All in an Amarr Medic Starter. To be fair, dat AScR doe...
EDIT: Against the hounds of Proto, still using the same fit.
15 kills, 20 assists, 5 deaths.
Gun Game 101. In the immortal words of Isai, "Don't get hit."
Haters gonna hate.
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