OP is OP is OP

you cant justify it by skill levels or perceived "difficulty" of use. a gal with 2 shots in the PLC is OP. what about the officer variant?

shotguns with double clip sizes?

the 140 round AR? the 200 round krin sin 11? lol how can you sit there and propose this with a straight face?

youre trolling hard man. hardest ive seen in awhile.

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two bonuses is too limiting. we need 4 bonuses on every role including commandos. 2 offensive and two defensive bonuses.

if you really want a clip size bonus, then go with 40%. it wont break weapon like the PLC.

Ok, lets explore it without the reload bonus then.

Alright, so Non-Mando with PLC
Damage: 1300
Charge Time: .45
Reload Time 2.975
Effective Fire Rate: .45+2.975=3.425
DPS: 1300/3.425 = 379

Galmmando
Damage: 1300 (x2)
Charge Time: .45
Reload Time: 2.975
Effective Fire Rate: .45+.45+2.975=3.875
DPS: (1300+1300)/3.425 = 671

Difference Between Gallmando and Nonmmando: [(671-379)/379*100%=77% Increase

So are you really OK with the Gallente Commando providing a 77% increase to DPS to the PLC? Because I personally feel that any bonus that increases DPS that much essentially impossible to balance. Either the the Galmmando PLC will end up being OP, or the Nonmmando PLC will be UP. In some ways its similar to the old ADS bonus, where Small Turrets on their own were not a problem, but on an ADS they very much were due to the large increase in DPS from the ships bonus.

Rattati has already state he is not interested in increasing the reload speed as it would make it more effective against infantry. Additionally a larger magazine would also have the same effect, and thus I don't see him going for it. As I've said Breakin and I have done a significant amount of work on the numbers behind AV (though I'll admit it was mostly Breakin' with me doing sanity checks) and have talked to some extent with Rattati about it as well.

So unless Rattati has had a change of heart recently, I just don't see it happening.

Oh that's cool. An entire proposal completely destroyed, dismantled, and rendered moot not because of the dropsuits it entailed, but because of one weapon.

Where was this sort of feedback when we were all saying the PLC was underpowered for a year and a half?

Do we have any other comments that could potentially make it work? No?

Than Galmando Bonus: 20% increase to magazine capacity per level of Assault Rifles.

Every time I mention the name Aeon Amadi, someone laughs hysterically... and then we move on to a more serious topic.

so even if we double AR clip size on commandos, and increased reload time to balance them... we still can cheat by carrying 2 ARs and switching to the second instead of reloading.

so instead of one AR with 140 rounds, its 2 for a total 280 rounds without the need to reload. and thats just one guy.

how about 16 of them all taking turns so that there's never any reasonable break in fire?

oh god the krin sin 11 lol. 200 round clips and dual wield them lol. yea.... nobody can abuse that lol

If you haven't gathered by now, he's just here to troll.

You also have to consider though....does a larger magazine really make a weapon a suppression weapon? I mean if I have an AR and the enemy has a Rail Rifle....even if I have double the magazine size, how effective am I going to be at suppressing someone who has more range than me? I just dont feel like an increased magazine will make an assault weapon into a suppression weapon, at least in all cases.

I mean just personally, if I really wanted a suppression role, I'd want something like increase splash radius to Mass Drivers since the Mass Driver is by its nature, more focused on suppression.