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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2015.07.02 11:20:00 -
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Currently this gun is alright but it doesn't fit any sort of niche except being a Caladari sidearm. Which would be fine if there weren't much better options available that surpass the Magsec in every way except range. So since its a longer range sidearm why don't we tweak it to become more appealing?
Design
-Give it a scope
-Give it a suppressor
-Make it a longer range tactical sidearm
-Make variants with & without scopes
Why?
Even though regular SMGs are really good, they are loud, everyone can hear them. There is no finisher weapon thats quiet, when it comes to sidearms anyway. There's the Bolt Pistol, but its awful in CQC as it should be and like everything Caladari its much better at range.
How it would work
-A burst-fire SMG fires three shots per burst
-The variant without a scope will fire full-auto as it does now
-The burst would be the most accurate best at range, would do more damage
-The full-auto variant would be good up close, but like ARR becomes more unstable with continued fire, would do less damage
-Basically mimic its RR brothers but with more stability and making a mini tactical RR
Not completely sure how to balance it with the regular SMG variants or if i even should, by i think its a start nonetheless.
Thoughts?
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2015.07.02 11:50:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Minus the suppressor +1.
The game art in game has it with a suppressor last time i checked. Maybe a variant without a suppressor as well, it will be the vanilla variant of the Mag. Like it is now, basically.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2015.07.02 11:59:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:As I've noted in quite a few other locations having the entire racial line of weapons at significant disadvantage in short to mid range fights when the primary method of securing victory in a match is attack and defend small objectives in close quarters is ridiculous.
The absolute biggest detractor for the MagSec for me is the charge time. I would gladly trade a little bit of range for no charge time.
My thought is that the racial line of weapons should generally accentuate the themes of a race as a whole while giving you solid options across the engagement spectrum. The MagSec can be quickly balanced to still give you solid striking power and range for a sidearm but lose the ridiculous charge mechanic and give the Caldari a good option in CQC.
I run logi about 90% of the time I play and if the MagSec didn't have the charge time it would probably be a "go to" weapon for several of my builds.
I'm thinking of that too i just don't know which variant besides tactical to put it on. Maybe it be a similar thing with regular SMG
-Assault longest range least damage
-Breach highest damage shortest range
-Regular in the middle
Mag
-Tactical longest range least damage
-Breach highest damage shortest range
-Vanilla in the middle
So breach would have longest charge-up cause highest damage, tactical would have barely any, and the vanilla would have no charge-up but would be a Master of None due to its.... in-betweeness. I just think it should partially mimic the RR.
What about that Jaysyn?
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2015.07.02 12:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Like the idea, though I disagree on one point. The BP is not awful in CQC.
Its alright in CQC but a CQC based weapon would be better no doubt. Just saying currently 9/10 you're better of with a Bolt Pistol in CQC then the Mag. Just comparing it cause both Caladari tech, while Bolt mimics the Sniper, Mag should mimic the RR. All im saying.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2015.07.02 14:58:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:benandjerrys wrote:Minus the suppressor +1. The game art in game has it with a suppressor last time i checked. Maybe a variant without a suppressor as well, it will be the vanilla variant of the Mag. Like it is now, basically. I know. But parity with suppressors for the smg would be qq'd. I'm tired of hearing qq.
It would be QQd by people that don't or don't care to understand stealth. It shouldn't be a problem if its introduced properly, but that doesn't mean wouldn't. So certain ideas just get swept under cause some people don't like it?
I want to make it more appealing without it being OP and bring in a little lore as well. Since there's no way to make everyone happy i am going with it.
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Matari=Gets SCR BPO. It really doesn't matter what race you are :shrugs:
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